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| | Help - W2K3 Host, VM Networking Problem I have a host machine with two interfaces. One goes to the Internet, the other goes to an internal LAN. The host machine runs Virtual Server. There are two virtual networks, one for each physical interface. The host machine is connected directly to the Internet in one interface and to the LAN on another interface. I want to set up a VM to act as a RRAS server, so it is connected directly to the Internet, and LAN clients use it as a gateway. On the host machine, running W2K3 with VS2005 R2, I have disabled everything except for "Virtual Machine Network Services" on the Internet interface. On the VM, running W2K8, I have configured that interface to have a static ip address, gateway, and DNS servers to access the Internet, just as the host machine would have configured to access the Internet on that interface. I also gave it a static internal LAN address. The problem is this: The VM cannot access the Internet. The settings are 100% correct. If I try to ping an Internet IP address I get "Destination host unreachable". If I enable IPV4 on the host machine and give it a public Internet address, and give the VM a different public Internet address, then this is what happens: The VM can ping the host using the host's public Internet address. It can also ping itself with it's public Internet address. The host can ping itself with it's public Internet address. It cannot get a response from the VM with the VM's public Internet address. Windows Firewall is off on both the host and the VM. What is going on? Asty4 |
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| | Re: Help - W2K3 Host, VM Networking Problem "Asty4" <Asty4@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1454E5FE-4A29-4A34-87B7-E05CC51A5F99@xxxxxx Quote: > I have a host machine with two interfaces. One goes to the Internet, the > other goes to an internal LAN. The host > > machine runs Virtual Server. There are two virtual networks, one for each > physical interface. > > The host machine is connected directly to the Internet in one interface > and > to the LAN on another interface. > > I want to set up a VM to act as a RRAS server, so it is connected directly > to the Internet, and LAN clients use it > > as a gateway. > > On the host machine, running W2K3 with VS2005 R2, I have disabled > everything > except for "Virtual Machine Network > > Services" on the Internet interface. > > On the VM, running W2K8, I have configured that interface to have a static > ip address, gateway, and DNS servers to > > access the Internet, just as the host machine would have configured to > access the Internet on that interface. > > I also gave it a static internal LAN address. > > The problem is this: > > The VM cannot access the Internet. The settings are 100% correct. If I try > to ping an Internet IP address I get > > "Destination host unreachable". > > If I enable IPV4 on the host machine and give it a public Internet > address, > and give the VM a different public > > Internet address, then this is what happens: > > The VM can ping the host using the host's public Internet address. It can > also ping itself with it's public > > Internet address. > > The host can ping itself with it's public Internet address. It cannot get > a > response from the VM with the VM's > > public Internet address. > > Windows Firewall is off on both the host and the VM. > > What is going on? > > Asty4 > > does the host machine connect to the Internet? How does it get its network config? If the host gets its network config from an ISP, the ISP will probably only allow that particular IP address to access the Internet. It will not accept some other IP you dream up. What you will need to do is make the Internet connection from the public NIC of your vm, not from the host. If you host gets its network config from a DHCP server on a home or corp network you should not need to give it a static IP. It will get its config from DHCP, just as the host does. That is the first problem. The router must be able to access the Internet from its public NIC. Once that works you should be able to install RRAS and configure it as a NAT router to let your LAN clients access the Internet through this router (as long as they are set to use this machine as their default gateway). You can even set up the host to access the Internet through this router (using its LAN interface). |
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| | Re: Help - W2K3 Host, VM Networking Problem OK. I will clarify. The host machine has been running RRAS. It has the public interface, and the private interface. The public interface has static IP settings and goes directly to the Internet (not to an ISP). The private interface goes directly to a LAN. Rather than have the host machine run RRAS, I want to run RRAS in a VM. That means that I want to set the VM as the gateway on the network, and I want all traffic into the LAN to flow through the VM, and then onto the Internet. I put the exact same settings that I use on the host, into the VM. Then I disable IPV4 and everything except for "Virtual Machine Network Services" that is bound on that public NIC interface on the host computer. So, the host machine does not communicate over IPV4 or anything to the public interface. However, the VM does not get any packet flow onto the Internet with this configuration. If I use the exact same settings in the IPV4 config for the host on the public interface, the host can communicate fine. But, if I do this on the VM, the VM does not get packet flow. If I assign another IP address to the Host's public interface, and another to the VM's public interface (Two different public IP addresses), the host has Internet connectivity, but the VM still doesn't work. When both the host machine and the VM have public IP Addresses assigned, I can ping the host machine on the Internet, but i cannot ping the VM. If I try to ping out from the VM, I get "destination host unreachable", to an ip address, hostname, or to the gateway. Asty4 "Bill Grant" wrote: Quote: > > > "Asty4" <Asty4@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:1454E5FE-4A29-4A34-87B7-E05CC51A5F99@xxxxxx Quote: > > I have a host machine with two interfaces. One goes to the Internet, the > > other goes to an internal LAN. The host > > > > machine runs Virtual Server. There are two virtual networks, one for each > > physical interface. > > > > The host machine is connected directly to the Internet in one interface > > and > > to the LAN on another interface. > > > > I want to set up a VM to act as a RRAS server, so it is connected directly > > to the Internet, and LAN clients use it > > > > as a gateway. > > > > On the host machine, running W2K3 with VS2005 R2, I have disabled > > everything > > except for "Virtual Machine Network > > > > Services" on the Internet interface. > > > > On the VM, running W2K8, I have configured that interface to have a static > > ip address, gateway, and DNS servers to > > > > access the Internet, just as the host machine would have configured to > > access the Internet on that interface. > > > > I also gave it a static internal LAN address. > > > > The problem is this: > > > > The VM cannot access the Internet. The settings are 100% correct. If I try > > to ping an Internet IP address I get > > > > "Destination host unreachable". > > > > If I enable IPV4 on the host machine and give it a public Internet > > address, > > and give the VM a different public > > > > Internet address, then this is what happens: > > > > The VM can ping the host using the host's public Internet address. It can > > also ping itself with it's public > > > > Internet address. > > > > The host can ping itself with it's public Internet address. It cannot get > > a > > response from the VM with the VM's > > > > public Internet address. > > > > Windows Firewall is off on both the host and the VM. > > > > What is going on? > > > > Asty4 > > > > > There isn't really enough info here to give you a useful answer. How > does the host machine connect to the Internet? How does it get its network > config? > > If the host gets its network config from an ISP, the ISP will probably > only allow that particular IP address to access the Internet. It will not > accept some other IP you dream up. What you will need to do is make the > Internet connection from the public NIC of your vm, not from the host. > > If you host gets its network config from a DHCP server on a home or corp > network you should not need to give it a static IP. It will get its config > from DHCP, just as the host does. > > That is the first problem. The router must be able to access the > Internet from its public NIC. Once that works you should be able to install > RRAS and configure it as a NAT router to let your LAN clients access the > Internet through this router (as long as they are set to use this machine as > their default gateway). You can even set up the host to access the Internet > through this router (using its LAN interface). > > > > > |
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| | Re: Help - W2K3 Host, VM Networking Problem "Asty4" <Asty4@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:70B2374E-9426-4CBF-BDBA-1A340CFED080@xxxxxx Quote: > OK. I will clarify. > > The host machine has been running RRAS. It has the public interface, and > the > private interface. The public interface has static IP settings and goes > directly to the Internet (not to an ISP). The private interface goes > directly > to a LAN. > > Rather than have the host machine run RRAS, I want to run RRAS in a VM. > That > means that I want to set the VM as the gateway on the network, and I want > all > traffic into the LAN to flow through the VM, and then onto the Internet. > > I put the exact same settings that I use on the host, into the VM. Then I > disable IPV4 and everything except for "Virtual Machine Network Services" > that is bound on that public NIC interface on the host computer. So, the > host > machine does not communicate over IPV4 or anything to the public > interface. > > However, the VM does not get any packet flow onto the Internet with this > configuration. If I use the exact same settings in the IPV4 config for the > host on the public interface, the host can communicate fine. But, if I do > this on the VM, the VM does not get packet flow. > > If I assign another IP address to the Host's public interface, and another > to the VM's public interface (Two different public IP addresses), the host > has Internet connectivity, but the VM still doesn't work. > > When both the host machine and the VM have public IP Addresses assigned, I > can ping the host machine on the Internet, but i cannot ping the VM. If I > try > to ping out from the VM, I get "destination host unreachable", to an ip > address, hostname, or to the gateway. > > Asty4 > network linked to the physical NIC in the host it should behave in exactly the same way as the host does. Does this NIC connect to a switch? Some switches will only allow one MAC address per switch port. That is the only reason I can think of for what you are seeing. It should work and it works for me. |
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