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| | Supported OS guests Hi everyone, After reading the http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954958/en-us and http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...-guest-os.aspx e noitice that Windows 2003 can ony run on 2 virtual CPUs? Why not 4 CPUs? Will I have performance issues with this? The funny thing is that I never noitice that in the lab environment, and I actually can define 4 virtual CPUs for windows 2003!!! Why MS is saying that isn't possible? What SPM stands for? Thank you all. |
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| | Re: Supported OS guests On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:58:08 -0800, Jmnts <Jmnts@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Hi everyone, > >After reading the >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954958/en-us and >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...-guest-os.aspx e noitice that Windows 2003 can ony run on 2 virtual CPUs? > >Why not 4 CPUs? Will I have performance issues with this? The funny thing is >that I never noitice that in the lab environment, and I actually can define 4 >virtual CPUs for windows 2003!!! Why MS is saying that isn't possible? > >What SPM stands for? > >Thank you all. 4CPUs if you like, but you will not get technical support in that configuration. They have not fully tested 4 CPU configurations, so it's not supported. There are no hard-coded limits, so theoretically you could run 8 or 16 CPUs in a VM also, if you have the hardware, but it's still an unsupported configuration. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: Supported OS guests Ok, thank you for the response, but this is really stupid... Not to say worse... so if MS decides to not give support for 2003 with 4 virtual CPUs they have that right because they didn't have time to to test with 4 virtual CPUs. funny thing because looking at the competitors in Virtual world we don't see think like this one... "Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote: Quote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:58:08 -0800, Jmnts > <Jmnts@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > >Hi everyone, > > > >After reading the > >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954958/en-us and > >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...-guest-os.aspx e noitice that Windows 2003 can ony run on 2 virtual CPUs? > > > >Why not 4 CPUs? Will I have performance issues with this? The funny thing is > >that I never noitice that in the lab environment, and I actually can define 4 > >virtual CPUs for windows 2003!!! Why MS is saying that isn't possible? > > > >What SPM stands for? > > > >Thank you all. > It is possible, they are saying it's not supported. You can assign > 4CPUs if you like, but you will not get technical support in that > configuration. > They have not fully tested 4 CPU configurations, so it's not > supported. There are no hard-coded limits, so theoretically you could > run 8 or 16 CPUs in a VM also, if you have the hardware, but it's > still an unsupported configuration. > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > http://vpc.essjae.com/ > |
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| | Re: Supported OS guests No, it is not stupid. What Microsoft is saying is that we have not tested this configuration so we cannot offer full support for it, but it will probably work. What are you running on Server 2003 in a vm that you think will require more than 2 cores? Is it showing any sign of being processor bound? "Jmnts" <Jmnts@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:93DA09E5-BFC6-4575-821C-FE095608E52A@xxxxxx Quote: > Ok, thank you for the response, but this is really stupid... Not to say > worse... so if MS decides to not give support for 2003 with 4 virtual CPUs > they have that right because they didn't have time to to test with 4 > virtual > CPUs. funny thing because looking at the competitors in Virtual world we > don't see think like this one... > > > "Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote: > Quote: >> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:58:08 -0800, Jmnts >> <Jmnts@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Quote: >> >Hi everyone, >> > >> >After reading the >> >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954958/en-us and >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...-guest-os.aspx >> >e noitice that Windows 2003 can ony run on 2 virtual CPUs? >> > >> >Why not 4 CPUs? Will I have performance issues with this? The funny >> >thing is >> >that I never noitice that in the lab environment, and I actually can >> >define 4 >> >virtual CPUs for windows 2003!!! Why MS is saying that isn't possible? >> > >> >What SPM stands for? >> > >> >Thank you all. >> It is possible, they are saying it's not supported. You can assign >> 4CPUs if you like, but you will not get technical support in that >> configuration. >> They have not fully tested 4 CPU configurations, so it's not >> supported. There are no hard-coded limits, so theoretically you could >> run 8 or 16 CPUs in a VM also, if you have the hardware, but it's >> still an unsupported configuration. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP >> http://vpc.essjae.com/ >> |
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| | Re: Supported OS guests That´s your opinion. But think again, when your client has to decide between HV and other available Virtual Server solutions in the market that don't have these limitations. I know that will work with 4 virtual cores, I already tested, but when the client asks you why? An when the is aware that MS may not (although I think that MS would never refuse support because of this) provide support, this may impact in the client decision. As for the question: what will the client will run that requires 4 virtual CPUs, the answer is everything, and this will be a platform with lots of physical servers that will run all Microsoft and Non-Microsoft technologies. "Bill Grant" wrote: Quote: > No, it is not stupid. What Microsoft is saying is that we have not tested > this configuration so we cannot offer full support for it, but it will > probably work. > > What are you running on Server 2003 in a vm that you think will require > more than 2 cores? Is it showing any sign of being processor bound? > > "Jmnts" <Jmnts@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:93DA09E5-BFC6-4575-821C-FE095608E52A@xxxxxx Quote: > > Ok, thank you for the response, but this is really stupid... Not to say > > worse... so if MS decides to not give support for 2003 with 4 virtual CPUs > > they have that right because they didn't have time to to test with 4 > > virtual > > CPUs. funny thing because looking at the competitors in Virtual world we > > don't see think like this one... > > > > > > "Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote: > > Quote: > >> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:58:08 -0800, Jmnts > >> <Jmnts@xxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> >Hi everyone, > >> > > >> >After reading the > >> >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954958/en-us and > >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...-guest-os.aspx > >> >e noitice that Windows 2003 can ony run on 2 virtual CPUs? > >> > > >> >Why not 4 CPUs? Will I have performance issues with this? The funny > >> >thing is > >> >that I never noitice that in the lab environment, and I actually can > >> >define 4 > >> >virtual CPUs for windows 2003!!! Why MS is saying that isn't possible? > >> > > >> >What SPM stands for? > >> > > >> >Thank you all. > >> > >> It is possible, they are saying it's not supported. You can assign > >> 4CPUs if you like, but you will not get technical support in that > >> configuration. > >> They have not fully tested 4 CPU configurations, so it's not > >> supported. There are no hard-coded limits, so theoretically you could > >> run 8 or 16 CPUs in a VM also, if you have the hardware, but it's > >> still an unsupported configuration. > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers, > >> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > >> http://vpc.essjae.com/ > >> |
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| | Re: Supported OS guests On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:14:01 -0800, Jmnts <Jmnts@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >That´s your opinion. Quote: > But think again, when your client has to decide between >HV and other available Virtual Server solutions in the market that don't have >these limitations. I know that will work with 4 virtual cores, I already >tested, but when the client asks you why? An when the is aware that MS may >not (although I think that MS would never refuse support because of this) >provide support, this may impact in the client decision. impact them is the cost of the hypervisor also. So? Quote: > >As for the question: what will the client will run that requires 4 virtual >CPUs, the answer is everything, and this will be a platform with lots of >physical servers that will run all Microsoft and Non-Microsoft technologies. then why even bother with virtualization? -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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