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64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

  1. #1


    Paul Bergson [MVP-DS] Guest

    64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    I have been attempting to get a 2008 64 bit server running on a 32 bit Vista
    client without success. My virtual Server Version is 1.1.603.0 EE R2 SP1.

    I get the message:



    Info: Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however this cpu is not
    compatible with 64-bit mode.


    I heard there was a fix to do this but have been unable to find it. Is
    anyone aware of this fix and/or where the info is available for it?

    --
    Paul Bergson
    MVP - Directory Services
    MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

    http://www.pbbergs.com

    Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
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  2. #2


    Charlie Russel - MVP Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    This is simply not possible. NO 64-bit guests are possible with Virtual
    Server or VPC. The only Microsoft product that supports 64-bit guests is
    Hyper-V.

    In some specific cases it might be possible to do this (run a 64-bit guest
    on a 32-bit host) with VMWare workstation.

    --
    Charlie.
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

    "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@xxxxxx_msn.com> wrote in message
    news:OAQvimweJHA.1268@xxxxxx

    >I have been attempting to get a 2008 64 bit server running on a 32 bit
    >Vista client without success. My virtual Server Version is 1.1.603.0 EE
    >R2 SP1.
    >
    > I get the message:
    >
    > Info: Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however this cpu is not
    > compatible with 64-bit mode.
    >
    >
    > I heard there was a fix to do this but have been unable to find it. Is
    > anyone aware of this fix and/or where the info is available for it?
    >
    > --
    > Paul Bergson
    > MVP - Directory Services
    > MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    > 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
    >
    > http://www.pbbergs.com
    >
    > Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
    > posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >
    >

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  3. #3


    Paul Bergson [MVP-DS] Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    Dang, someone recently told me there was a fix. This was obviously bad
    info.

    Thanks for the help

    --
    Paul Bergson
    MVP - Directory Services
    MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

    http://www.pbbergs.com

    Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
    posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


    "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:eoCKLxweJHA.1528@xxxxxx

    > This is simply not possible. NO 64-bit guests are possible with Virtual
    > Server or VPC. The only Microsoft product that supports 64-bit guests is
    > Hyper-V.
    >
    > In some specific cases it might be possible to do this (run a 64-bit guest
    > on a 32-bit host) with VMWare workstation.
    >
    > --
    > Charlie.
    > http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
    >
    > "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@xxxxxx_msn.com> wrote in message
    > news:OAQvimweJHA.1268@xxxxxx

    >>I have been attempting to get a 2008 64 bit server running on a 32 bit
    >>Vista client without success. My virtual Server Version is 1.1.603.0 EE
    >>R2 SP1.
    >>
    >> I get the message:
    >>
    >> Info: Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however this cpu is not
    >> compatible with 64-bit mode.
    >>
    >>
    >> I heard there was a fix to do this but have been unable to find it. Is
    >> anyone aware of this fix and/or where the info is available for it?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Paul Bergson
    >> MVP - Directory Services
    >> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    >> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
    >>
    >> http://www.pbbergs.com
    >>
    >> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
    >> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >>
    >>
    >

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  4. #4


    Charlie Russel - MVP Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    This isn't a "fix" - there's nothing broken. It's simply the way the
    software was designed. And I consider it extremely unlikely that Virtual
    Server will ever change. It _is_ possible that Virtual PC (or some successor
    client virtualization program from MS) will have full 64-bit client
    functionality. But no announcements have been made on that front at all. And
    even if it were to support 64-bit guests, I'd be astonished if it did so on
    a 32-bit host.

    --
    Charlie.
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

    "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@xxxxxx_msn.com> wrote in message
    news:%23e1gs6weJHA.4444@xxxxxx

    > Dang, someone recently told me there was a fix. This was obviously bad
    > info.
    >
    > Thanks for the help
    >
    > --
    > Paul Bergson
    > MVP - Directory Services
    > MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    > 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
    >
    > http://www.pbbergs.com
    >
    > Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
    > posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >
    >
    > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:eoCKLxweJHA.1528@xxxxxx

    >> This is simply not possible. NO 64-bit guests are possible with Virtual
    >> Server or VPC. The only Microsoft product that supports 64-bit guests is
    >> Hyper-V.
    >>
    >> In some specific cases it might be possible to do this (run a 64-bit
    >> guest on a 32-bit host) with VMWare workstation.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Charlie.
    >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
    >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
    >>
    >> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@xxxxxx_msn.com> wrote in message
    >> news:OAQvimweJHA.1268@xxxxxx

    >>>I have been attempting to get a 2008 64 bit server running on a 32 bit
    >>>Vista client without success. My virtual Server Version is 1.1.603.0 EE
    >>>R2 SP1.
    >>>
    >>> I get the message:
    >>>
    >>> Info: Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however this cpu is not
    >>> compatible with 64-bit mode.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I heard there was a fix to do this but have been unable to find it. Is
    >>> anyone aware of this fix and/or where the info is available for it?
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Paul Bergson
    >>> MVP - Directory Services
    >>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    >>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
    >>>
    >>> http://www.pbbergs.com
    >>>
    >>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
    >>> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >

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  5. #5


    Mark Rae [MVP] Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:emgSdxzeJHA.5420@xxxxxx

    >> Dang, someone recently told me there was a fix. This was obviously bad
    >> info.
    >
    > This isn't a "fix" - there's nothing broken.
    <snip>

    > And even if it were to support 64-bit guests, I'd be astonished if it did
    > so on a 32-bit host.
    No technical reason why not - VMWare supports 64-bit guests on 32-bit hosts,
    so long as the underlying host hardware is 64-bit...


    --
    Mark Rae
    ASP.NET MVP
    http://www.markrae.net


      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6


    Charlie Russel - MVP Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    I can think of lots of reasons why not, and yes, I know that VMWare does it.
    But I'll stand by my statement - I'd be astonished if it supports 64-bit
    guests on a 32-bit host OS.

    --
    Charlie.
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

    "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:%234$1G4zeJHA.3776@xxxxxx

    > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:emgSdxzeJHA.5420@xxxxxx
    >

    >>> Dang, someone recently told me there was a fix. This was obviously bad
    >>> info.
    >>
    >> This isn't a "fix" - there's nothing broken.
    >
    > <snip>
    >

    >> And even if it were to support 64-bit guests, I'd be astonished if it did
    >> so on a 32-bit host.
    >
    > No technical reason why not - VMWare supports 64-bit guests on 32-bit
    > hosts, so long as the underlying host hardware is 64-bit...
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mark Rae
    > ASP.NET MVP
    > http://www.markrae.net

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #7


    Paul Bergson [MVP-DS] Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    Didn't mean to say it was broken but Microsoft released a patch to allow 64
    bit now. I understand the underpinnings so I just moved it to a VMWare
    host.

    --
    Paul Bergson
    MVP - Directory Services
    MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

    http://www.pbbergs.com

    Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
    posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


    "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:emgSdxzeJHA.5420@xxxxxx

    > This isn't a "fix" - there's nothing broken. It's simply the way the
    > software was designed. And I consider it extremely unlikely that Virtual
    > Server will ever change. It _is_ possible that Virtual PC (or some
    > successor client virtualization program from MS) will have full 64-bit
    > client functionality. But no announcements have been made on that front at
    > all. And even if it were to support 64-bit guests, I'd be astonished if it
    > did so on a 32-bit host.
    >
    > --
    > Charlie.
    > http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
    >
    > "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@xxxxxx_msn.com> wrote in message
    > news:%23e1gs6weJHA.4444@xxxxxx

    >> Dang, someone recently told me there was a fix. This was obviously bad
    >> info.
    >>
    >> Thanks for the help
    >>
    >> --
    >> Paul Bergson
    >> MVP - Directory Services
    >> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    >> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
    >>
    >> http://www.pbbergs.com
    >>
    >> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
    >> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >>
    >>
    >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:eoCKLxweJHA.1528@xxxxxx

    >>> This is simply not possible. NO 64-bit guests are possible with Virtual
    >>> Server or VPC. The only Microsoft product that supports 64-bit guests is
    >>> Hyper-V.
    >>>
    >>> In some specific cases it might be possible to do this (run a 64-bit
    >>> guest on a 32-bit host) with VMWare workstation.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Charlie.
    >>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
    >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
    >>>
    >>> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@xxxxxx_msn.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:OAQvimweJHA.1268@xxxxxx
    >>>>I have been attempting to get a 2008 64 bit server running on a 32 bit
    >>>>Vista client without success. My virtual Server Version is 1.1.603.0
    >>>>EE R2 SP1.
    >>>>
    >>>> I get the message:
    >>>>
    >>>> Info: Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however this cpu is not
    >>>> compatible with 64-bit mode.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I heard there was a fix to do this but have been unable to find it. Is
    >>>> anyone aware of this fix and/or where the info is available for it?
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Paul Bergson
    >>>> MVP - Directory Services
    >>>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
    >>>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.pbbergs.com
    >>>>
    >>>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
    >>>> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>
    >

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  8. #8


    Steve Jain [MVP] Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:42:46 -0600, "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]"
    <pbbergs@xxxxxx_msn.com> wrote:

    >Didn't mean to say it was broken but Microsoft released a patch to allow 64
    >bit now. I understand the underpinnings so I just moved it to a VMWare
    >host.
    A patch to allow 64bit what?

    --
    Cheers,
    Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
    http://vpc.essjae.com/

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #9


    chris r Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    Hello MVPs. I'd like to bring up this topic once more and have an MVP chime
    in please since I'd greatly appreciate a definite answer to this as I cannot
    find one.

    With one change to the original thread: Installing SBS 2008 as a guest OS
    and a 64-bit host OS (Vista Business 64-bit w/ SP1 in my case).

    Update KB948515.msp for Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 states that Small
    Business Server 2008 (not just 2003) is a supported guest OS bundle. SBS 2008
    is a 64-bit bundle.

    I get the same message "Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however
    this cpu is not compatible with 64-bit mode.". I get it that up to this point
    only 32-bit OSs were supported as a guest, but with it specifically including
    SBS 2008 in the update I assumed that things changed.

    I want to virtualize SBS 2008 for SharePoint design and development and
    researched virtualization options using MS technology and this update was
    perfect.

    Why doesn't SBS 2008 install if the update supports it?

    - chris


    "Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote:

    > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:42:46 -0600, "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]"
    > <pbbergs@xxxxxx_msn.com> wrote:
    >

    > >Didn't mean to say it was broken but Microsoft released a patch to allow 64
    > >bit now. I understand the underpinnings so I just moved it to a VMWare
    > >host.
    >
    > A patch to allow 64bit what?
    >
    > --
    > Cheers,
    > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
    > http://vpc.essjae.com/
    >

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  10. #10


    Paul Adare Guest

    Re: 64 bit guest on a 32 bit host - 2005 R2 SP1

    On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:47:01 -0800, chris r wrote:

    > With one change to the original thread: Installing SBS 2008 as a guest OS
    > and a 64-bit host OS (Vista Business 64-bit w/ SP1 in my case).
    >
    > Update KB948515.msp for Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 states that Small
    > Business Server 2008 (not just 2003) is a supported guest OS bundle. SBS 2008
    > is a 64-bit bundle.
    >
    > I get the same message "Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however
    > this cpu is not compatible with 64-bit mode.". I get it that up to this point
    > only 32-bit OSs were supported as a guest, but with it specifically including
    > SBS 2008 in the update I assumed that things changed.
    >
    > I want to virtualize SBS 2008 for SharePoint design and development and
    > researched virtualization options using MS technology and this update was
    > perfect.
    >
    > Why doesn't SBS 2008 install if the update supports it?
    From the KB in question:

    Additional guest operating systems that the update supports
    Update 948515 for Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 includes support for the
    following additional guest operating systems:
    Windows Server 2008, Core Edition
    Windows Server 2008, Standard Edition
    Windows Server 2008, Datacenter Edition
    Windows Server 2008, Enterprise Edition
    Windows Vista Ultimate with SP1
    Windows Vista Business with SP1
    Windows Vista Enterprise with SP1
    Windows XP Professional with SP3

    I don't see SBS 2008 listed there, and I can tell you definitively that
    Virtual Server does not support any x64 OS as a guest. If you want x64
    guest support you need to use Hyper-V.

    --
    Paul Adare
    MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
    http://www.identit.ca

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