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| | IP assignment Maybe I'm missing something here but I can only find passing comments on this with no good descriptions. I have a 2008 Std install with Hyper-V role. The server has 4 physical NIC ports. I have one NIC devoted to the server The first virtual machine (2008) is using the second NIC The second virtual machine (2003) is using the other 2 NIC ports (the app requires 2) In Virtual Network Manager I have created 3 External virtual networks and then added the adapters to the VM settings (1 for each port). Everything is communicating fine but it looks like I am required to supply an IP address to the physical NIC on the host system as well as the virtual NIC in the VM. We can afford the IPs but it adds to confusion and makes the host multihomed - this has several issues in the MS world. It's also a little unclear how the apps will respond to this method. It looks like I could add the NIC in the VM as a legacy adapter to solve this but that is documented as slower performance as well as locking you to 100MB. Am I understanding all of this correctly? |
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| | Re: IP assignment >Am I understanding all of this correctly? All you need to do is unbind TCP on the host with the NICs that are dedicated to the VM's. That way the host wont need an IP address for those NICs and wont use them for any of it's own communications. -- Bob Comer On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:09:59 -0800 (PST), mrklaxon@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: >Maybe I'm missing something here but I can only find passing comments >on this with no good descriptions. > >I have a 2008 Std install with Hyper-V role. The server has 4 >physical NIC ports. >I have one NIC devoted to the server >The first virtual machine (2008) is using the second NIC >The second virtual machine (2003) is using the other 2 NIC ports (the >app requires 2) > >In Virtual Network Manager I have created 3 External virtual networks >and then added the adapters to the VM settings (1 for each port). > >Everything is communicating fine but it looks like I am required to >supply an IP address to the physical NIC on the host system as well as >the virtual NIC in the VM. We can afford the IPs but it adds to >confusion and makes the host multihomed - this has several issues in >the MS world. It's also a little unclear how the apps will respond to >this method. > >It looks like I could add the NIC in the VM as a legacy adapter to >solve this but that is documented as slower performance as well as >locking you to 100MB. > >Am I understanding all of this correctly? |
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| | Re: IP assignment Also, Quote: >It looks like I could add the NIC in the VM as a legacy adapter to >solve this but that is documented as slower performance as well as >locking you to 100MB. legacy NIC isn't locked to 100Mb, even though that's what it says, it goes at the real NIC's speed.) The Legacy NIC is quite a bit slower than the other type though, lots more overhead. -- Bob Comer On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:09:59 -0800 (PST), mrklaxon@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: >Maybe I'm missing something here but I can only find passing comments >on this with no good descriptions. > >I have a 2008 Std install with Hyper-V role. The server has 4 >physical NIC ports. >I have one NIC devoted to the server >The first virtual machine (2008) is using the second NIC >The second virtual machine (2003) is using the other 2 NIC ports (the >app requires 2) > >In Virtual Network Manager I have created 3 External virtual networks >and then added the adapters to the VM settings (1 for each port). > >Everything is communicating fine but it looks like I am required to >supply an IP address to the physical NIC on the host system as well as >the virtual NIC in the VM. We can afford the IPs but it adds to >confusion and makes the host multihomed - this has several issues in >the MS world. It's also a little unclear how the apps will respond to >this method. > >It looks like I could add the NIC in the VM as a legacy adapter to >solve this but that is documented as slower performance as well as >locking you to 100MB. > >Am I understanding all of this correctly? |
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| | Re: IP assignment On Feb 12, 9:29*am, Robert Comer <bobcomer-remove...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: Quote: > >Am I understanding all of this correctly? > All you need to do is unbind TCP on the host with the NICs that are > dedicated to the VM's. *That way the host wont need an IP address for > those NICs and wont use them for any of it's own communications. > > -- > Bob Comer |
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| | Re: IP assignment It shouldn't. You have to unbind it from the proper connection (there's 2 for every NIC if I remember correctly) I don't have a HyperV server here at work to check though... Maybe someone else will chime it?? -- Bob Comer On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:47:09 -0800 (PST), mrklaxon@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: >On Feb 12, 9:29*am, Robert Comer <bobcomer-remove...@xxxxxx> >wrote: Quote: Quote: >> >Am I understanding all of this correctly? >> All you need to do is unbind TCP on the host with the NICs that are >> dedicated to the VM's. *That way the host wont need an IP address for >> those NICs and wont use them for any of it's own communications. >> >> -- >> Bob Comer >If you unbind IP the VM loses connection the the network. |
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| | Re: IP assignment I agree with Bob on both points. Regarding the network setup, you do not need any settings on the host side for a vm to use the NIC. All you need is the virtual switch network protocol. See this article from Ben's blog. http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy...h-hyper-v.aspx Whether you use a synthetic or legacy NIC in the vm cannot possibly affect how this works. You must have something else configured incorrectly (or there is a problem with the NIC driver software on the host OS). "Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:s3g8p4h0iff0cng0em137c09itrrru0ef1@xxxxxx Quote: > Also, > Quote: >>It looks like I could add the NIC in the VM as a legacy adapter to >>solve this but that is documented as slower performance as well as >>locking you to 100MB. > That really wouldn't make any difference in this case. (And the > legacy NIC isn't locked to 100Mb, even though that's what it says, it > goes at the real NIC's speed.) The Legacy NIC is quite a bit slower > than the other type though, lots more overhead. > > -- > Bob Comer > > > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:09:59 -0800 (PST), mrklaxon@xxxxxx wrote: > Quote: >>Maybe I'm missing something here but I can only find passing comments >>on this with no good descriptions. >> >>I have a 2008 Std install with Hyper-V role. The server has 4 >>physical NIC ports. >>I have one NIC devoted to the server >>The first virtual machine (2008) is using the second NIC >>The second virtual machine (2003) is using the other 2 NIC ports (the >>app requires 2) >> >>In Virtual Network Manager I have created 3 External virtual networks >>and then added the adapters to the VM settings (1 for each port). >> >>Everything is communicating fine but it looks like I am required to >>supply an IP address to the physical NIC on the host system as well as >>the virtual NIC in the VM. We can afford the IPs but it adds to >>confusion and makes the host multihomed - this has several issues in >>the MS world. It's also a little unclear how the apps will respond to >>this method. >> >>It looks like I could add the NIC in the VM as a legacy adapter to >>solve this but that is documented as slower performance as well as >>locking you to 100MB. >> >>Am I understanding all of this correctly? |
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