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| Guest | Hyper-V clustering, Quick Migration and virtual domain controllers Hi! I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What I would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers and using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it to another host, and then resumes it. Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain controllers? Are there any MS documents or articles discussing this scenario? Best match I could find was about Virtual Server 2005, but I am particularly interested in the quick migration part of Hyper-V. Thank you. |
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| Guest | Re: Hyper-V clustering, Quick Migration and virtual domain controllers > Hi! Quote: > > I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is > supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What I > would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers > and > using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it to > another host, and then resumes it. > > Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain > controllers? The domain controllers are designed to be able to work and recover from a DC being out for a period of time without affecting replication. This is not any different from rebooting the DC or turning it off over a weekend because the building is having power issues and turning the DC on again on Monday morning. hth DDS "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5A2062AF-80BE-45F5-8BDB-198EC7A032DD@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi! > > I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is > supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What I > would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers > and > using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it to > another host, and then resumes it. > > Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain > controllers? > > Are there any MS documents or articles discussing this scenario? Best > match > I could find was about Virtual Server 2005, but I am particularly > interested > in the quick migration part of Hyper-V. > > Thank you. |
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| Guest | Re: Hyper-V clustering, Quick Migration and virtual domain control But since it is basically paused for that 10 seconds or so, it's clock etc don't run for that time. How does it address this issue, or does it sync the clock after resuming it on the other machine? Since syncing the clock with the host is not recommended for domain controllers anyway, the possible difference in the clock between the DC and possibly the two Hyper-V hosts the machine is migrated from and to should not affect the DC, but the DC (and often DNS, perhaps DHCP and WINS too) does lose 10 seconds. And I was wondering if it would perhaps sync data with other DCs wrong after this migration. "Danny Sanders" wrote: Quote: Quote: > > Hi! > > > > I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is > > supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What I > > would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers > > and > > using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it to > > another host, and then resumes it. > > > > Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain > > controllers? > > The domain controllers are designed to be able to work and recover from a DC > being out for a period of time without affecting replication. This is not > any different from rebooting the DC or turning it off over a weekend because > the building is having power issues and turning the DC on again on Monday > morning. > > > hth > DDS > "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:5A2062AF-80BE-45F5-8BDB-198EC7A032DD@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hi! > > > > I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is > > supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What I > > would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers > > and > > using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it to > > another host, and then resumes it. > > > > Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain > > controllers? > > > > Are there any MS documents or articles discussing this scenario? Best > > match > > I could find was about Virtual Server 2005, but I am particularly > > interested > > in the quick migration part of Hyper-V. > > > > Thank you. |
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| Guest | Re: Hyper-V clustering, Quick Migration and virtual domain control I would have the PDC emulator in the root domain of the forest a phsycal server. Other DCs will get their time from it at startup. I would have at least 1 DC in each domain in your forest as a physical server housing DNS. This way if you ever had to shut down your virtual enviorment, having a physical DNS server that you can start up before your virtual servers would significantly speed up the process, especially if Exchange is involved, there is no reason that these DNS DCs in each domain can't be the PDC emulator also. hth DDS "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:39BB322B-3DE1-4B39-B7FF-24D114BF43FA@xxxxxx Quote: > But since it is basically paused for that 10 seconds or so, it's clock etc > don't run for that time. How does it address this issue, or does it sync > the > clock after resuming it on the other machine? > > Since syncing the clock with the host is not recommended for domain > controllers anyway, the possible difference in the clock between the DC > and > possibly the two Hyper-V hosts the machine is migrated from and to should > not > affect the DC, but the DC (and often DNS, perhaps DHCP and WINS too) does > lose 10 seconds. And I was wondering if it would perhaps sync data with > other > DCs wrong after this migration. > > > "Danny Sanders" wrote: > Quote: Quote: >> > Hi! >> > >> > I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is >> > supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What >> > I >> > would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers >> > and >> > using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it >> > to >> > another host, and then resumes it. >> > >> > Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain >> > controllers? >> >> The domain controllers are designed to be able to work and recover from a >> DC >> being out for a period of time without affecting replication. This is not >> any different from rebooting the DC or turning it off over a weekend >> because >> the building is having power issues and turning the DC on again on Monday >> morning. >> >> >> hth >> DDS >> "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:5A2062AF-80BE-45F5-8BDB-198EC7A032DD@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Hi! >> > >> > I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is >> > supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What >> > I >> > would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers >> > and >> > using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it >> > to >> > another host, and then resumes it. >> > >> > Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain >> > controllers? >> > >> > Are there any MS documents or articles discussing this scenario? Best >> > match >> > I could find was about Virtual Server 2005, but I am particularly >> > interested >> > in the quick migration part of Hyper-V. >> > >> > Thank you. |
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| Guest | Re: Hyper-V clustering, Quick Migration and virtual domain controllers http://searchwindowsserver.techtarge...227204,00.html Also - snapshots are a bad idea with virtual DCs Blake "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5A2062AF-80BE-45F5-8BDB-198EC7A032DD@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi! > > I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is > supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What I > would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers > and > using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it to > another host, and then resumes it. > > Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain > controllers? > > Are there any MS documents or articles discussing this scenario? Best > match > I could find was about Virtual Server 2005, but I am particularly > interested > in the quick migration part of Hyper-V. > > Thank you. |
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| Guest | RE: Hyper-V clustering, Quick Migration and virtual domain controllers How about in the event that all DCs are also DNS-servers, will that cause synchronization issues? "Kimpsu" wrote: Quote: > Hi! > > I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is > supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What I > would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers and > using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it to > another host, and then resumes it. > > Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain controllers? > > Are there any MS documents or articles discussing this scenario? Best match > I could find was about Virtual Server 2005, but I am particularly interested > in the quick migration part of Hyper-V. > > Thank you. |
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| Guest | Re: Hyper-V clustering, Quick Migration and virtual domain controllers > How about in the event that all DCs are also DNS-servers, will that cause Quote: > synchronization issues? activated the DNS information is replicated along with AD replication. It is encryped and secure which is an improvement over the primary - secondary model which replicates on it's own schedule and is less secure. We have 40+ DCs serving as DNS servers in branch offices providing DNS for each office. Search the MS site for Active Directory Integrated DNS. hth DDS "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:01651F6F-59F1-47F7-B739-1ADAA0F8C1E0@xxxxxx Quote: > How about in the event that all DCs are also DNS-servers, will that cause > synchronization issues? > > "Kimpsu" wrote: > Quote: >> Hi! >> >> I have understood that running active directory domain controllers is >> supported by MS when run with their own virtualization solutions. What I >> would like to know is how about when having multiple domain controllers >> and >> using Hyper-V quick migration? It saves the state of the VM, moves it to >> another host, and then resumes it. >> >> Does this result in data synchronization issues between domain >> controllers? >> >> Are there any MS documents or articles discussing this scenario? Best >> match >> I could find was about Virtual Server 2005, but I am particularly >> interested >> in the quick migration part of Hyper-V. >> >> Thank you. |
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| Guest | RE: Hyper-V clustering, Quick Migration and virtual domain controllers Thank you all for your responses, I now have more information to work with. Thank you. |
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