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| | Hyper-V versus WMWare I have a third party application that I wanted to install and validate creating sripts on a 64-bit hardware server. Unforunately my only two 64-bit machines are running SBS 2008 and W2K8 Standard server and the third party applications doesn't support either. So I was thinking of creating a virtual machine and installing W2K3 Standard server on the child machine. I've never used any type of virtual software and of course never deployed a virtual machine. Reading about and researching VMWare versus Hyper-V I'm not sure as to which would better suit my purpose. We do have MS Virtual Server 2005 but that isn't supported on W2K8 servers. So I'm looking for input and advise as to which route I ahould go. Also if I do go with WMWare which version do I need? Thanks. |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare From a technical standpoint there is very little difference. Both are Hypervisor based virtualization products. Essntially they are implementing on-chip functionality. VMWare is a more mature product so it has more bells and whistles, primarily in the enterprise management space. Hyper-V is a new element of the Windows Server operating family. As such, it can and does leverage other elements such as clustering. The tools to manage it are also familiar MMC apps. If you are comfortable with Windows, I would give Hyper-V a shot. -- Geoff N. Hiten Principal SQL Infrastructure Consultant Microsoft SQL Server MVP "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote in message news:%23tV0NGHEKHA.4704@newsgroup Quote: >I have a third party application that I wanted to install and validate >creating sripts on a 64-bit hardware server. Unforunately my only two >64-bit machines are running SBS 2008 and W2K8 Standard server and the third >party applications doesn't support either. So I was thinking of creating a >virtual machine and installing W2K3 Standard server on the child machine. >I've never used any type of virtual software and of course never deployed a >virtual machine. Reading about and researching VMWare versus Hyper-V I'm >not sure as to which would better suit my purpose. We do have MS Virtual >Server 2005 but that isn't supported on W2K8 servers. So I'm looking for >input and advise as to which route I ahould go. Also if I do go with WMWare >which version do I need? Thanks. > |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare Very comfrotable with Winodws Geoff. I was leaning towards Hyper-V seeing how I already have W2K8 servers but just wanted feedback from others who are familiar with both. Thanks for your valuable input. "Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@newsgroup> wrote in message news:O9lntTIEKHA.4316@newsgroup Quote: > From a technical standpoint there is very little difference. Both are > Hypervisor based virtualization products. Essntially they are implementing > on-chip functionality. > > VMWare is a more mature product so it has more bells and whistles, > primarily in the enterprise management space. > > Hyper-V is a new element of the Windows Server operating family. As such, > it can and does leverage other elements such as clustering. The tools to > manage it are also familiar MMC apps. > > If you are comfortable with Windows, I would give Hyper-V a shot. > > -- > Geoff N. Hiten > Principal SQL Infrastructure Consultant > Microsoft SQL Server MVP > > > > "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:%23tV0NGHEKHA.4704@newsgroup Quote: >>I have a third party application that I wanted to install and validate >>creating sripts on a 64-bit hardware server. Unforunately my only two >>64-bit machines are running SBS 2008 and W2K8 Standard server and the >>third party applications doesn't support either. So I was thinking of >>creating a virtual machine and installing W2K3 Standard server on the >>child machine. I've never used any type of virtual software and of course >>never deployed a virtual machine. Reading about and researching VMWare >>versus Hyper-V I'm not sure as to which would better suit my purpose. We >>do have MS Virtual Server 2005 but that isn't supported on W2K8 servers. >>So I'm looking for input and advise as to which route I ahould go. Also if >>I do go with WMWare which version do I need? Thanks. >> |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare I've used both, and even like both. But ultimately I go with Hyper-V on my SBS network. (But NOT on the SBS 2k8 main server - that's not supported and doesn't work!) I run SBS 2k8 Premium, and use the Server 2k8 second server as my hyper-v host/parent. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote in message news:%23$%23LrfIEKHA.3732@newsgroup Quote: > Very comfrotable with Winodws Geoff. I was leaning towards Hyper-V seeing > how I already have W2K8 servers but just wanted feedback from others who > are familiar with both. Thanks for your valuable input. > > "Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:O9lntTIEKHA.4316@newsgroup Quote: >> From a technical standpoint there is very little difference. Both are >> Hypervisor based virtualization products. Essntially they are >> implementing on-chip functionality. >> >> VMWare is a more mature product so it has more bells and whistles, >> primarily in the enterprise management space. >> >> Hyper-V is a new element of the Windows Server operating family. As >> such, it can and does leverage other elements such as clustering. The >> tools to manage it are also familiar MMC apps. >> >> If you are comfortable with Windows, I would give Hyper-V a shot. >> >> -- >> Geoff N. Hiten >> Principal SQL Infrastructure Consultant >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP >> >> >> >> "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:%23tV0NGHEKHA.4704@newsgroup Quote: >>>I have a third party application that I wanted to install and validate >>>creating sripts on a 64-bit hardware server. Unforunately my only two >>>64-bit machines are running SBS 2008 and W2K8 Standard server and the >>>third party applications doesn't support either. So I was thinking of >>>creating a virtual machine and installing W2K3 Standard server on the >>>child machine. I've never used any type of virtual software and of course >>>never deployed a virtual machine. Reading about and researching VMWare >>>versus Hyper-V I'm not sure as to which would better suit my purpose. We >>>do have MS Virtual Server 2005 but that isn't supported on W2K8 servers. >>>So I'm looking for input and advise as to which route I ahould go. Also >>>if I do go with WMWare which version do I need? Thanks. >>> > |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare Thanks for the input charlie. Unfortunately I looked more into the hardware requirements and it appears my Intel chipset generation does not support Hyper-V. May have to go with VMWare. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@newsgroup> wrote in message news:eBN$nMJEKHA.3732@newsgroup Quote: > I've used both, and even like both. But ultimately I go with Hyper-V on my > SBS network. (But NOT on the SBS 2k8 main server - that's not supported > and doesn't work!) I run SBS 2k8 Premium, and use the Server 2k8 second > server as my hyper-v host/parent. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:%23$%23LrfIEKHA.3732@newsgroup Quote: >> Very comfrotable with Winodws Geoff. I was leaning towards Hyper-V seeing >> how I already have W2K8 servers but just wanted feedback from others who >> are familiar with both. Thanks for your valuable input. >> >> "Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:O9lntTIEKHA.4316@newsgroup Quote: >>> From a technical standpoint there is very little difference. Both are >>> Hypervisor based virtualization products. Essntially they are >>> implementing on-chip functionality. >>> >>> VMWare is a more mature product so it has more bells and whistles, >>> primarily in the enterprise management space. >>> >>> Hyper-V is a new element of the Windows Server operating family. As >>> such, it can and does leverage other elements such as clustering. The >>> tools to manage it are also familiar MMC apps. >>> >>> If you are comfortable with Windows, I would give Hyper-V a shot. >>> >>> -- >>> Geoff N. Hiten >>> Principal SQL Infrastructure Consultant >>> Microsoft SQL Server MVP >>> >>> >>> >>> "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote in message >>> news:%23tV0NGHEKHA.4704@newsgroup >>>>I have a third party application that I wanted to install and validate >>>>creating sripts on a 64-bit hardware server. Unforunately my only two >>>>64-bit machines are running SBS 2008 and W2K8 Standard server and the >>>>third party applications doesn't support either. So I was thinking of >>>>creating a virtual machine and installing W2K3 Standard server on the >>>>child machine. I've never used any type of virtual software and of >>>>course never deployed a virtual machine. Reading about and researching >>>>VMWare versus Hyper-V I'm not sure as to which would better suit my >>>>purpose. We do have MS Virtual Server 2005 but that isn't supported on >>>>W2K8 servers. So I'm looking for input and advise as to which route I >>>>ahould go. Also if I do go with WMWare which version do I need? Thanks. >>>> >>> >> |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:37:43 -0700, "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: >Thanks for the input charlie. Unfortunately I looked more into the hardware >requirements and it appears my Intel chipset generation does not support >Hyper-V. May have to go with VMWare. > run x64 VMs. Generally, you need hardwre virtualization in order to run x64 VMs. If you can't run Hyper-V, you might not be able to run x64 VMs at all, VMware etc. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare Yea I also thought about that Steve and will be looking more into it. But I'm thinking since VMWare predated Hyper-V as well as 64-bit technology that it shouldn't be an issue. Plus I also know someone who is already using VMWare on earlier hardware than mine. Thanks for the input. "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message news:7ul17555k8gdgel5aq0rghmqmtmdejn092@newsgroup Quote: > On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:37:43 -0700, "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> > wrote: > Quote: >>Thanks for the input charlie. Unfortunately I looked more into the >>hardware >>requirements and it appears my Intel chipset generation does not support >>Hyper-V. May have to go with VMWare. >> > Before you go to far, you need to carefully check the requirements to > run x64 VMs. Generally, you need hardwre virtualization in order to > run x64 VMs. If you can't run Hyper-V, you might not be able to run > x64 VMs at all, VMware etc. > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:40:53 -0700, "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: >Yea I also thought about that Steve and will be looking more into it. But >I'm thinking since VMWare predated Hyper-V as well as 64-bit technology that >it shouldn't be an issue. Plus I also know someone who is already using >VMWare on earlier hardware than mine. Thanks for the input. product with 32b VMs does not have the same host hardware requirements. Make sure your friend is running x64 VMs. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare Yes he is running on 64-bit hardware. "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message news:hhh375l84r6br46fc6nkj9g1idodtt6m37@newsgroup Quote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:40:53 -0700, "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> > wrote: > Quote: >>Yea I also thought about that Steve and will be looking more into it. But >>I'm thinking since VMWare predated Hyper-V as well as 64-bit technology >>that >>it shouldn't be an issue. Plus I also know someone who is already using >>VMWare on earlier hardware than mine. Thanks for the input. > Yes, but you said you wanted to run an x64 VM. Running a VMWare > product with 32b VMs does not have the same host hardware > requirements. > Make sure your friend is running x64 VMs. > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: Hyper-V versus WMWare On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:19:09 -0700, "AllenM" <NoReply@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: >Yes he is running on 64-bit hardware. > same hardware requirements. (see: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/drivers_tools.html) Good luck! -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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