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Old 08-13-2009   #1 (permalink)
Paul Yhonquea


 
 

Virtual Networks across multiple hosts...

Hello all,


I am trying to set up a virtual network (or virtual networks - plural) that
will allow systems hosted on two different physical hosts to communicate
with each other without having to have an address on the live network. I
have attached a diagram that sort of illustrates my setup. In a nutshell, I
have clients on one host and servers on another. What would be the best,
most feasable way to give the clients connectivity to the DHCP server for
addresses without the broadcast going out onto the live network? If I need
to create routers on each side (like the RRAS server on the Hyper-V host in
the diagram), I will; but I need to know how to configure them.

One thing I forgot in the diagram: the live network uses the 192.168.x.x
addressing scheme, while the VMs are using 10.x.x.x.


Thanks in advance for any replies.


Paul





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Old 08-14-2009   #2 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: Virtual Networks across multiple hosts...



"Paul Yhonquea" <none@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:u7npCbIHKHA.4024@newsgroup
Quote:

> Hello all,
>
>
> I am trying to set up a virtual network (or virtual networks - plural)
> that will allow systems hosted on two different physical hosts to
> communicate with each other without having to have an address on the live
> network. I have attached a diagram that sort of illustrates my setup. In
> a nutshell, I have clients on one host and servers on another. What would
> be the best, most feasable way to give the clients connectivity to the
> DHCP server for addresses without the broadcast going out onto the live
> network? If I need to create routers on each side (like the RRAS server
> on the Hyper-V host in the diagram), I will; but I need to know how to
> configure them.
>
> One thing I forgot in the diagram: the live network uses the 192.168.x.x
> addressing scheme, while the VMs are using 10.x.x.x.
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
You could use site to site VPN if you have RRAS servers in both sites.

I actually did this a while back as an exercise in configuring site to
site VPN in RRAS. You just use the standard site to site VPN config. Your
physical LAN is the IP connection between the routers. You tunnel through
the 192.168 network instead of the public Internet. Just think 192.168
whenever you see public network and 10. when you see private.


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Old 08-15-2009   #3 (permalink)
Paul Yhonquea


 
 

Re: Virtual Networks across multiple hosts...

Thanks for the info, but I am still kind of stuck.

One of the routers is a Windows 2000 Server and the other is Windows Server
2003, neither of which are on a domain. I am trying to figure out how to
set up the site-to-site VPN. I can get the W2K router to establish a VPN
connection to the W2K3 router, but do I assign the W2K a IP on the LAN side
of the W2K3? What about setting up the routing portion? I can ping all the
way through from the W2K to clients behind the W2K3, but I cannot hit the
clients behind the W2K with anything but the W2K router. I am not sure if I
have the routing part done right. I called myse;f using the OSPF routing
protocol on both routers. If I need to use W2K3 for both routers to take
advantage of the site-to-site VPN, then I will.


Paul


"Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:%23sKEhnKHKHA.4316@newsgroup
Quote:

>
>
> "Paul Yhonquea" <none@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:u7npCbIHKHA.4024@newsgroup
Quote:

>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>> I am trying to set up a virtual network (or virtual networks - plural)
>> that will allow systems hosted on two different physical hosts to
>> communicate with each other without having to have an address on the live
>> network. I have attached a diagram that sort of illustrates my setup.
>> In a nutshell, I have clients on one host and servers on another. What
>> would be the best, most feasable way to give the clients connectivity to
>> the DHCP server for addresses without the broadcast going out onto the
>> live network? If I need to create routers on each side (like the RRAS
>> server on the Hyper-V host in the diagram), I will; but I need to know
>> how to configure them.
>>
>> One thing I forgot in the diagram: the live network uses the 192.168.x.x
>> addressing scheme, while the VMs are using 10.x.x.x.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>
> You could use site to site VPN if you have RRAS servers in both sites.
>
> I actually did this a while back as an exercise in configuring site to
> site VPN in RRAS. You just use the standard site to site VPN config. Your
> physical LAN is the IP connection between the routers. You tunnel through
> the 192.168 network instead of the public Internet. Just think 192.168
> whenever you see public network and 10. when you see private.
>
>

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Old 08-15-2009   #4 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: Virtual Networks across multiple hosts...



"Paul Yhonquea" <none@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:eb8PXpcHKHA.1492@newsgroup
Quote:

> Thanks for the info, but I am still kind of stuck.
>
> One of the routers is a Windows 2000 Server and the other is Windows
> Server 2003, neither of which are on a domain. I am trying to figure out
> how to set up the site-to-site VPN. I can get the W2K router to establish
> a VPN connection to the W2K3 router, but do I assign the W2K a IP on the
> LAN side of the W2K3? What about setting up the routing portion? I can
> ping all the way through from the W2K to clients behind the W2K3, but I
> cannot hit the clients behind the W2K with anything but the W2K router. I
> am not sure if I have the routing part done right. I called myse;f using
> the OSPF routing protocol on both routers. If I need to use W2K3 for both
> routers to take advantage of the site-to-site VPN, then I will.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:%23sKEhnKHKHA.4316@newsgroup
Quote:

>>
>>
>> "Paul Yhonquea" <none@newsgroup> wrote in message
>> news:u7npCbIHKHA.4024@newsgroup
Quote:

>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am trying to set up a virtual network (or virtual networks - plural)
>>> that will allow systems hosted on two different physical hosts to
>>> communicate with each other without having to have an address on the
>>> live network. I have attached a diagram that sort of illustrates my
>>> setup. In a nutshell, I have clients on one host and servers on another.
>>> What would be the best, most feasable way to give the clients
>>> connectivity to the DHCP server for addresses without the broadcast
>>> going out onto the live network? If I need to create routers on each
>>> side (like the RRAS server on the Hyper-V host in the diagram), I will;
>>> but I need to know how to configure them.
>>>
>>> One thing I forgot in the diagram: the live network uses the
>>> 192.168.x.x addressing scheme, while the VMs are using 10.x.x.x.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You could use site to site VPN if you have RRAS servers in both sites.
>>
>> I actually did this a while back as an exercise in configuring site to
>> site VPN in RRAS. You just use the standard site to site VPN config. Your
>> physical LAN is the IP connection between the routers. You tunnel through
>> the 192.168 network instead of the public Internet. Just think 192.168
>> whenever you see public network and 10. when you see private.
>>
>>
>
>
Read the help files on site to site VPN routing (also sometimes called
LAN to LAN or router to router VPN). It is nothing like normal
client-server VPN. The VPN connection is established between the two RRAS
routers. Each router has a demand-dial interface with static routes linked
to them. When the routers connect they can route between the two sites.

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