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08-31-2009
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| | Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets Hello: I'm getting ready to set up a test AD environment with two subnets so that I can create two AD sites based on them. All VMs will be on the same host. How will the two subnets communicate? Is there any inherent way in Hyper-V to setup routing between two private virtual networks on different subnets? If not, is there some other way to get this to work? -- Thank you, Mel K. MCSA: M, Ex2000 MCTS: Ex2007 |
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08-31-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OEFEXylKKHA.4168@newsgroup Quote: > Hello: > > I'm getting ready to set up a test AD environment with two subnets so that > I can create two AD sites based on them. All VMs will be on the same host. > How will the two subnets communicate? Is there any inherent way in Hyper-V > to setup routing between two private virtual networks on different > subnets? If not, is there some other way to get this to work? > > -- > Thank you, > Mel K. > MCSA: M, Ex2000 > MCTS: Ex2007 > solution is to run one vm as a router between the subnets. You can run a Windows server OS with RRAS, or a Linux OS if you are familiar with that. |
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09-01-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets I just found this: http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_stra...n-hyper-v.aspx (Vyatta Virtual Router on Hyper-V). I might give it a try. Hopefully MS puts this type of functionality in future Hyper-V release. I think it's a key feature for testing and development. -- Thank you, Mel K. MCSA: M, Ex2000 MCTS: Ex2007 "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message news:eJ03Y0pKKHA.6016@newsgroup Quote: > > > "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:OEFEXylKKHA.4168@newsgroup Quote: >> Hello: >> >> I'm getting ready to set up a test AD environment with two subnets so >> that I can create two AD sites based on them. All VMs will be on the same >> host. How will the two subnets communicate? Is there any inherent way in >> Hyper-V to setup routing between two private virtual networks on >> different subnets? If not, is there some other way to get this to work? >> >> -- >> Thank you, >> Mel K. >> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >> MCTS: Ex2007 >> > solution is to run one vm as a router between the subnets. You can run a > Windows server OS with RRAS, or a Linux OS if you are familiar with that. > > > > |
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09-01-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets That should be fine if you are familiar with Linux. Why would Microsoft include it in Hyper-V? "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message news:#7ZEg1wKKHA.1248@newsgroup Quote: > I just found this: > http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_stra...n-hyper-v.aspx > (Vyatta Virtual Router on Hyper-V). I might give it a try. Hopefully MS > puts this type of functionality in future Hyper-V release. I think it's a > key feature for testing and development. > > -- > Thank you, > Mel K. > MCSA: M, Ex2000 > MCTS: Ex2007 > "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:eJ03Y0pKKHA.6016@newsgroup Quote: >> >> >> "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:OEFEXylKKHA.4168@newsgroup Quote: >>> Hello: >>> >>> I'm getting ready to set up a test AD environment with two subnets so >>> that I can create two AD sites based on them. All VMs will be on the >>> same host. How will the two subnets communicate? Is there any inherent >>> way in Hyper-V to setup routing between two private virtual networks on >>> different subnets? If not, is there some other way to get this to work? >>> >>> -- >>> Thank you, >>> Mel K. >>> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >>> MCTS: Ex2007 >>> >> solution is to run one vm as a router between the subnets. You can run a >> Windows server OS with RRAS, or a Linux OS if you are familiar with that. >> >> >> >> > |
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09-02-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets I don't mean that MS should put Vyatta into Hyper-V, but they should include a virtual router. They already have virtual switches, so why not a simple virtual router so that IT folks can set up test subnets without having to set up a VM to do the routing. I have a desktop with 4 GB of RAM running Hyper-V, so adding an extra VM for routing is going to take up more of the limited resources. -- Mel K. MCSA: M, Ex2000 MCTS: Ex2007 "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message news:uXDI$J2KKHA.4608@newsgroup Quote: > That should be fine if you are familiar with Linux. > > Why would Microsoft include it in Hyper-V? > > > "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:#7ZEg1wKKHA.1248@newsgroup Quote: >> I just found this: >> http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_stra...n-hyper-v.aspx >> (Vyatta Virtual Router on Hyper-V). I might give it a try. Hopefully MS >> puts this type of functionality in future Hyper-V release. I think it's a >> key feature for testing and development. >> >> -- >> Thank you, >> Mel K. >> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >> MCTS: Ex2007 >> "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:eJ03Y0pKKHA.6016@newsgroup Quote: >>> >>> >>> "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message >>> news:OEFEXylKKHA.4168@newsgroup >>>> Hello: >>>> >>>> I'm getting ready to set up a test AD environment with two subnets so >>>> that I can create two AD sites based on them. All VMs will be on the >>>> same host. How will the two subnets communicate? Is there any inherent >>>> way in Hyper-V to setup routing between two private virtual networks on >>>> different subnets? If not, is there some other way to get this to work? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thank you, >>>> Mel K. >>>> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >>>> MCTS: Ex2007 >>>> >>> No, there is no in-built routing between virtual networks. The simplest >>> solution is to run one vm as a router between the subnets. You can run a >>> Windows server OS with RRAS, or a Linux OS if you are familiar with >>> that. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> |
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09-02-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets I think that would be a bad idea. Microsoft put a DHCP service into virtual networks in Virtual Server. It confused more people than it helped. Every Windows Server OS already has a router included. "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message news:e4CFri9KKHA.1336@newsgroup Quote: > I don't mean that MS should put Vyatta into Hyper-V, but they should > include a virtual router. They already have virtual switches, so why not a > simple virtual router so that IT folks can set up test subnets without > having to set up a VM to do the routing. I have a desktop with 4 GB of RAM > running Hyper-V, so adding an extra VM for routing is going to take up > more of the limited resources. > > -- > Mel K. > MCSA: M, Ex2000 > MCTS: Ex2007 > "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:uXDI$J2KKHA.4608@newsgroup Quote: >> That should be fine if you are familiar with Linux. >> >> Why would Microsoft include it in Hyper-V? >> >> >> "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:#7ZEg1wKKHA.1248@newsgroup Quote: >>> I just found this: >>> http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_stra...n-hyper-v.aspx >>> (Vyatta Virtual Router on Hyper-V). I might give it a try. Hopefully MS >>> puts this type of functionality in future Hyper-V release. I think it's >>> a key feature for testing and development. >>> >>> -- >>> Thank you, >>> Mel K. >>> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >>> MCTS: Ex2007 >>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message >>> news:eJ03Y0pKKHA.6016@newsgroup >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message >>>> news:OEFEXylKKHA.4168@newsgroup >>>>> Hello: >>>>> >>>>> I'm getting ready to set up a test AD environment with two subnets so >>>>> that I can create two AD sites based on them. All VMs will be on the >>>>> same host. How will the two subnets communicate? Is there any inherent >>>>> way in Hyper-V to setup routing between two private virtual networks >>>>> on different subnets? If not, is there some other way to get this to >>>>> work? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Mel K. >>>>> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >>>>> MCTS: Ex2007 >>>>> >>>> No, there is no in-built routing between virtual networks. The >>>> simplest solution is to run one vm as a router between the subnets. You >>>> can run a Windows server OS with RRAS, or a Linux OS if you are >>>> familiar with that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > |
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09-03-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets Personally, I disagree. I wish there were a virtual router available for just these sorts of scenarios. Yes, I've worked around it by creating a small Server 2k3 VM and enabling RRAS on it. But a fast, resource sparing, virtual router would be a nice addition. And not terribly difficult to implement, I would think. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OoNM%23DDLKHA.4236@newsgroup Quote: > I think that would be a bad idea. Microsoft put a DHCP service into > virtual networks in Virtual Server. It confused more people than it > helped. > > Every Windows Server OS already has a router included. > > "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:e4CFri9KKHA.1336@newsgroup Quote: >> I don't mean that MS should put Vyatta into Hyper-V, but they should >> include a virtual router. They already have virtual switches, so why not >> a simple virtual router so that IT folks can set up test subnets without >> having to set up a VM to do the routing. I have a desktop with 4 GB of >> RAM running Hyper-V, so adding an extra VM for routing is going to take >> up more of the limited resources. >> >> -- >> Mel K. >> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >> MCTS: Ex2007 >> "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:uXDI$J2KKHA.4608@newsgroup Quote: >>> That should be fine if you are familiar with Linux. >>> >>> Why would Microsoft include it in Hyper-V? >>> >>> >>> "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message >>> news:#7ZEg1wKKHA.1248@newsgroup >>>> I just found this: >>>> http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_stra...n-hyper-v.aspx >>>> (Vyatta Virtual Router on Hyper-V). I might give it a try. Hopefully MS >>>> puts this type of functionality in future Hyper-V release. I think it's >>>> a key feature for testing and development. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thank you, >>>> Mel K. >>>> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >>>> MCTS: Ex2007 >>>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@newsgroup> wrote in message >>>> news:eJ03Y0pKKHA.6016@newsgroup >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mel K." <Mel@newsgroup> wrote in message >>>>> news:OEFEXylKKHA.4168@newsgroup >>>>>> Hello: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm getting ready to set up a test AD environment with two subnets so >>>>>> that I can create two AD sites based on them. All VMs will be on the >>>>>> same host. How will the two subnets communicate? Is there any >>>>>> inherent way in Hyper-V to setup routing between two private virtual >>>>>> networks on different subnets? If not, is there some other way to get >>>>>> this to work? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Mel K. >>>>>> MCSA: M, Ex2000 >>>>>> MCTS: Ex2007 >>>>>> >>>>> No, there is no in-built routing between virtual networks. The >>>>> simplest solution is to run one vm as a router between the subnets. >>>>> You can run a Windows server OS with RRAS, or a Linux OS if you are >>>>> familiar with that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> |
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09-03-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@newsgroup> wrote in message news:#Vd2LZFLKHA.3708@newsgroup Quote: > Personally, I disagree. I wish there were a virtual router available for > just these sorts of scenarios. Yes, I've worked around it by creating a > small Server 2k3 VM and enabling RRAS on it. But a fast, resource sparing, > virtual router would be a nice addition. And not terribly difficult to > implement, I would think. > number of dedicated Linux routers available. Microsoft open sourcing the driver components is going to be a really big deal for Hyper-V and small one box networks. -- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ |
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09-04-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets yes, I'm sure. but I'd still far rather see this implemented as part of Hyper-V itself. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Kerry Brown" <kerry@newsgroup-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message news:es8ZG2JLKHA.5732@newsgroup Quote: > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:#Vd2LZFLKHA.3708@newsgroup Quote: >> Personally, I disagree. I wish there were a virtual router available for >> just these sorts of scenarios. Yes, I've worked around it by creating a >> small Server 2k3 VM and enabling RRAS on it. But a fast, resource >> sparing, virtual router would be a nice addition. And not terribly >> difficult to implement, I would think. >> > When the integration components are in the Linux kernel there will be any > number of dedicated Linux routers available. Microsoft open sourcing the > driver components is going to be a really big deal for Hyper-V and small > one box networks. > > -- > Kerry Brown > MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > > > > |
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09-05-2009
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| | Re: Hyper-V, private virtual networks on different subnets Agreed. Why would we want to install a Linux router on a MS Hyper-V box? If I did that, I might end up liking Linux and telling my manager that we should deploy more Linux servers =\ I don't think MS would like that. -- Mel K. MCSA: M, Ex2000 MCTS: Ex2007 "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OuO%23VeaLKHA.4376@newsgroup Quote: > yes, I'm sure. but I'd still far rather see this implemented as part of > Hyper-V itself. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "Kerry Brown" <kerry@newsgroup-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > news:es8ZG2JLKHA.5732@newsgroup Quote: >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:#Vd2LZFLKHA.3708@newsgroup Quote: >>> Personally, I disagree. I wish there were a virtual router available for >>> just these sorts of scenarios. Yes, I've worked around it by creating a >>> small Server 2k3 VM and enabling RRAS on it. But a fast, resource >>> sparing, virtual router would be a nice addition. And not terribly >>> difficult to implement, I would think. >>> >> When the integration components are in the Linux kernel there will be any >> number of dedicated Linux routers available. Microsoft open sourcing the >> driver components is going to be a really big deal for Hyper-V and small >> one box networks. >> >> -- >> Kerry Brown >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >> >> >> |
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