Robert Comer wrote:

> You might try reinstalling the WHS server, otherwise it sounds like a
> difference in Windows 7 that is not allowing VS to run the same... (as
> you know, it's not a supported scenario, either running WHS on Virtual
> Server, or running Virtual Server on Windows 7)

OK, so I downloaded the Win2003 pre-built virtual machine from Microsoft, and
was able to start it just fine in Virtual Server on Windows 7. I have not really
done anything on it yet (wasn't planning to), but I am able to surf the net
(using the physical NIC of the Windows 7 host). Therefore, in my book, it works.

So it seems that, at least so far, it is not Virtual Server on Windows 7 that is
the problem.

One thing that is different is that my WHS is on a virtaul SCSI disk rather than
a virtual IDE disk. Could this be the problem?

(It is actually a variable size SCSI disk whose capacity is bigger than the host
disk that it lives on, but this was never a problem on the XP host.)

Maybe I need to reinstall WHS on the SCSI disk (I would really rather not...).



--
David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP

>Therefore, in my book, it works.

Agreed.

> One thing that is different is that my WHS is on a virtual SCSI disk
> rather than a virtual IDE disk. Could this be the problem?

It shouldn't be, but it could be where there's an incompatibility with Win7.

A good test would be to create a new VM with a SCSI disk and install WHS into
it. I'd try it myself, but I don't have Virtual Server working in Win7. (I
tried it back in the beta but I haven't bothered to since RTM)

> Maybe I need to reinstall WHS on the SCSI disk (I would really rather
> not...).

Just try a new test VM to see, it'll tell if it's even possible, or maybe why
it fails.

It's too bad Windows VPC doesn't support SCSI disks, it's limitation in IDE
disk size makes it totally unusable for what you want.

--
Bob Comer




David Wilkinson wrote:

> Robert Comer wrote:

>> You might try reinstalling the WHS server, otherwise it sounds like a
>> difference in Windows 7 that is not allowing VS to run the same... (as
>> you know, it's not a supported scenario, either running WHS on Virtual
>> Server, or running Virtual Server on Windows 7)

>
> OK, so I downloaded the Win2003 pre-built virtual machine from
> Microsoft, and was able to start it just fine in Virtual Server on
> Windows 7. I have not really done anything on it yet (wasn't planning
> to), but I am able to surf the net (using the physical NIC of the
> Windows 7 host). Therefore, in my book, it works.
>
> So it seems that, at least so far, it is not Virtual Server on Windows 7
> that is the problem.
>
> One thing that is different is that my WHS is on a virtaul SCSI disk
> rather than a virtual IDE disk. Could this be the problem?
>
> (It is actually a variable size SCSI disk whose capacity is bigger than
> the host disk that it lives on, but this was never a problem on the XP
> host.)
>
> Maybe I need to reinstall WHS on the SCSI disk (I would really rather
> not...).
>

Well David, I had an allergy attack tonight so I had some time to kill
so I got Virtual Server up and running on my main Win7 machine. <g>

The install is starting now so I'll let you know.

I started with only 1 SCSI drive and it's bigger than the available
space in the partition.

I'll post back with results later on...

--
Bob Comer


On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:36:58 -0500, David Wilkinson
<no-reply@newsgroup> wrote:

>Robert Comer wrote:

>> You might try reinstalling the WHS server, otherwise it sounds like a
>> difference in Windows 7 that is not allowing VS to run the same... (as
>> you know, it's not a supported scenario, either running WHS on Virtual
>> Server, or running Virtual Server on Windows 7)

>
>OK, so I downloaded the Win2003 pre-built virtual machine from Microsoft, and
>was able to start it just fine in Virtual Server on Windows 7. I have not really
>done anything on it yet (wasn't planning to), but I am able to surf the net
>(using the physical NIC of the Windows 7 host). Therefore, in my book, it works.
>
>So it seems that, at least so far, it is not Virtual Server on Windows 7 that is
>the problem.
>
>One thing that is different is that my WHS is on a virtaul SCSI disk rather than
>a virtual IDE disk. Could this be the problem?
>
>(It is actually a variable size SCSI disk whose capacity is bigger than the host
>disk that it lives on, but this was never a problem on the XP host.)
>
>Maybe I need to reinstall WHS on the SCSI disk (I would really rather not...).

Well, got my answer pretty quick and verified it with another OS (XP
in this case), the SCSI shunt driver is inoperative, once the VM gets
past the BIOS boot phase and gets to the OS load of drivers, it dies.

Gotta figure out how to get that going for there to be any hope...

--
Bob Comer


On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:05:21 -0500, Robert Comer
<bobcomer-removeme-@newsgroup> wrote:

>Well David, I had an allergy attack tonight so I had some time to kill
>so I got Virtual Server up and running on my main Win7 machine. <g>
>
>The install is starting now so I'll let you know.
>
>I started with only 1 SCSI drive and it's bigger than the available
>space in the partition.
>
>I'll post back with results later on...

Robert Comer wrote:

> Well, got my answer pretty quick and verified it with another OS (XP
> in this case), the SCSI shunt driver is inoperative, once the VM gets
> past the BIOS boot phase and gets to the OS load of drivers, it dies.
>
> Gotta figure out how to get that going for there to be any hope...

Robert:

Thanks a bunch! But now I'm really out of my depth (before I was just on the
edge). Is there any possibility this could be made to work?

Does this not happen with a Vista host? I just did a quick search but did not
find anything.

--
David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP

>Does this not happen with a Vista host? I just did a quick search but did not

>find anything.

Just checked, Virtual Server doesn't have that problem on Vista.

Also, it doesn't matter the size of the SCSI disk or if it's fixed or
dynamic on Windows 7, it always fails.

--
Bob Comer


On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:40:10 -0500, David Wilkinson
<no-reply@newsgroup> wrote:

>Robert Comer wrote:

>> Well, got my answer pretty quick and verified it with another OS (XP
>> in this case), the SCSI shunt driver is inoperative, once the VM gets
>> past the BIOS boot phase and gets to the OS load of drivers, it dies.
>>
>> Gotta figure out how to get that going for there to be any hope...

>
>Robert:
>
>Thanks a bunch! But now I'm really out of my depth (before I was just on the
>edge). Is there any possibility this could be made to work?
>
>Does this not happen with a Vista host? I just did a quick search but did not
>find anything.

> Thanks a bunch! But now I'm really out of my depth (before I was just on

> the edge). Is there any possibility this could be made to work?

I just don't know, it's a tough one. My guess is not unless it's something
else that is getting in the way and whatever that is if it can be disabled.

> Does this not happen with a Vista host? I just did a quick search but
> did not find anything.

I doubt it happens, but I'll let you know. SCSI isn't that common on desktop
Virtual Server installs -- unless you need large disks...

--
Bob Comer




David Wilkinson wrote:

> Robert Comer wrote:

>> Well, got my answer pretty quick and verified it with another OS (XP
>> in this case), the SCSI shunt driver is inoperative, once the VM gets
>> past the BIOS boot phase and gets to the OS load of drivers, it dies.
>>
>> Gotta figure out how to get that going for there to be any hope...

>
> Robert:
>
> Thanks a bunch! But now I'm really out of my depth (before I was just on
> the edge). Is there any possibility this could be made to work?
>
> Does this not happen with a Vista host? I just did a quick search but
> did not find anything.
>