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User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

  1. #1


    Blue Max Guest

    User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    I am working on a laptop computer running Microsoft Vista Home Premium. I
    wanted to access the utility for modifying user account permissions;
    normally found in the 'Local Users and Groups' dialog within the Windows
    Computer Management utility (right-click Computer icon and select Manage).
    However, I cannot find any 'Local Users and Groups' option in Vista Home
    Premium. Without this feature how can we enable or disable user accounts or
    profiles?


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  3. #2


    Ronnie Vernon MVP Guest

    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    Blue Max

    Just like the XP Home versions, the Vista Home versions do not include the
    management console snap-ins like local users and groups.

    Most everything that you can do with the MMC can be done in the home
    versions using direct registry edits.

    There is no way to actually 'disable' an account in Vista, but you can
    'hide' an account so that it is invisible on the login screen.

    Let me know if this is what you want to do.

    --

    Ronnie Vernon
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Shell/User


    "Blue Max" <mailrichard@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:B0AB9C15-7F6F-49CD-A59D-CD44C5373B00@xxxxxx

    >I am working on a laptop computer running Microsoft Vista Home Premium. I
    >wanted to access the utility for modifying user account permissions;
    >normally found in the 'Local Users and Groups' dialog within the Windows
    >Computer Management utility (right-click Computer icon and select Manage).
    >However, I cannot find any 'Local Users and Groups' option in Vista Home
    >Premium. Without this feature how can we enable or disable user accounts
    >or profiles?
    >

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  4. #3


    Chris Game Guest

    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:04:12 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

    > Just like the XP Home versions, the Vista Home versions do not
    > include the management console snap-ins like local users and
    > groups.
    The Event Viewer seems to be a MC snap-in, available in
    Home-Premium.

    --
    Chris Game

    "Hopefully the net-dwelling paranoid delusional conspiracy theorists
    won't descend upon me " -- Chris Pratley, MSFT.

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  5. #4


    Ronnie Vernon MVP Guest

    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    Chris

    That's correct. The only snap-ins that are not included are things like
    Group Policy, Security Policy, etc. These components are focused on managing
    large numbers of systems and large groups of users, which is not usually
    important to the home version users.

    --

    Ronnie Vernon
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Shell/User


    "Chris Game" <chrisgame@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:1a6b4r11ijcaj$.dlg@xxxxxx

    > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:04:12 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:
    >

    >> Just like the XP Home versions, the Vista Home versions do not
    >> include the management console snap-ins like local users and
    >> groups.
    >
    > The Event Viewer seems to be a MC snap-in, available in
    > Home-Premium.
    >
    > --
    > Chris Game
    >
    > "Hopefully the net-dwelling paranoid delusional conspiracy theorists
    > won't descend upon me " -- Chris Pratley, MSFT.

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  6. #5


    Blue Max Guest

    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    Thank you, Ronnie, see in-line replies below:

    "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:F9BDAA53-C51B-4DCD-AB83-8857DB928B40@xxxxxx

    > Blue Max
    >
    > Just like the XP Home versions, the Vista Home versions do not include the
    > management console snap-ins like local users and groups.
    I was afraid this might be the case. Thank you for the confirmation.

    > Most everything that you can do with the MMC can be done in the home
    > versions using direct registry edits.
    This is good go know, a little more technical than I might have wanted, but
    a useful possibility.

    > There is no way to actually 'disable' an account in Vista, but you can
    > 'hide' an account so that it is invisible on the login screen.
    Interesting, because my Vista property dialogs for each user have an option
    titled "Account is disabled" versus "Account is hidden." Nevertheless, I
    think I understand what you are describing. In Windows XP the
    'Administrator' account was not displayed on the 'Welcome' screen, but could
    still be accessed remotely or at the 'Welcome' screen using Ctrl-Alt-Del.
    Is this the same behavior we should expect in Vista? In other words, the
    account is hidden, but still active?

    If so, how do we access the Administrator account, for example, from the
    'Welcome' screen as we did in Windows XP? And now back to our concern in
    our original message, how would one ever 'Unhide' or 'Enable' the
    Administrator account in Vista Home Premium, which is hidden or disabled by
    default, but has no snap-in? Are we going to be forced into the registry to
    change a default or is there a utility like TWEAKUI that will help with
    these changes?

    Thank you for the help.

    > Let me know if this is what you want to do.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Ronnie Vernon
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Shell/User
    >
    >
    > "Blue Max" <mailrichard@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:B0AB9C15-7F6F-49CD-A59D-CD44C5373B00@xxxxxx

    >>I am working on a laptop computer running Microsoft Vista Home Premium. I
    >>wanted to access the utility for modifying user account permissions;
    >>normally found in the 'Local Users and Groups' dialog within the Windows
    >>Computer Management utility (right-click Computer icon and select Manage).
    >>However, I cannot find any 'Local Users and Groups' option in Vista Home
    >>Premium. Without this feature how can we enable or disable user accounts
    >>or profiles?
    >>
    >

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  7. #6


    kmarkum Guest

    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

    >Most everything that you can do with the MMC can be done in the home
    >versions using direct registry edits.
    >
    >There is no way to actually 'disable' an account in Vista, but you can
    >'hide' an account so that it is invisible on the login screen.
    >
    >Let me know if this is what you want to do.
    >
    Ronnie,

    I would like to know the registry edits to hide an account in Vista Home
    Premium, and access it via Ctrl-Alt-Del twice at Welcome screen, similar to
    XP Professional. Or is there another way in Vista?

    I am comfortable editing the registry.

    Thanks.


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    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    Quote Originally Posted by kmarkum View Post
    Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

    Ronnie,

    I would like to know the registry edits to hide an account in Vista Home
    Premium, and access it via Ctrl-Alt-Del twice at Welcome screen, similar to
    XP Professional. Or is there another way in Vista?

    I am comfortable editing the registry.

    Thanks.
    1. Click on the Start Button, type in secpol.msc and press <enter>.
    2. Click Local Policies, then click Security Options.
    3. In the right hand pane, locate "Interactive logon: Do not display last user name", right click on
    it and select Properties.
    4. Select Enable and click OK.
    5. Close the Local Security Policy editor.

    Log off and you will see the new logon screen.

    sincerely,
    Sergio
    Windows Vista Autologon

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  9. #8


    Ronnie Vernon MVP Guest

    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    KMarkum

    First, a Warning. Be very careful when hiding user accounts in Vista. If you
    hide the only available administrative account, you can effectively lock
    yourself out of performing any tasks that require administrative privileges
    on the system. This is because the CTRL+ALT+DEL procedure is no longer an
    option at the login screen. Also, if you hide the only user created,
    visible, administrator account on the system you will not be able to log on
    with this account, even in Safe Mode. Also, if you hide the only visible
    administrator account, you will also not be able to logon with the Built-in
    Administrator account in Safe Mode. You must have administrator privileges
    to hide or un-hide a user account in Vista.

    In Vista when you hide a user profile, it is really "hidden". You cannot
    access this account in normal or Safe mode.

    Hide Users from the Welcome Screen

    Go to Start and type: regedit.exe Right click regedit.exe in the results
    and select the Run As Administrator option.

    Navigate to the following registry key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
    NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\SpecialAccounts\UserList

    If the SpecialAccounts and UserList keys are not there, you will need to
    create them.

    Right click the Winlogon key and select New/Key from the menu.
    Name the Key SpecialAccounts (Case sensitive)
    Right click the SpecialAccounts Key and select New/Key.
    Name this Key UserList (Case sensitive)

    With the UserList key selected, right click in the right side pane and
    select New / DWORD Value (32-bit).
    Name this Value the same exact name of the user account that you want
    hidden.

    Double click this Value and place a 0 (Zero) in the Value Data line. Click
    OK.

    This will prevent the user from showing up on the welcome screen.

    Do this for each account you want hidden.

    --

    Ronnie Vernon
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Shell/User


    "kmarkum" <u38668@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:7a7267f04f99b@xxxxxx

    > Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

    >>Most everything that you can do with the MMC can be done in the home
    >>versions using direct registry edits.
    >>
    >>There is no way to actually 'disable' an account in Vista, but you can
    >>'hide' an account so that it is invisible on the login screen.
    >>
    >>Let me know if this is what you want to do.
    >>
    >
    > Ronnie,
    >
    > I would like to know the registry edits to hide an account in Vista Home
    > Premium, and access it via Ctrl-Alt-Del twice at Welcome screen, similar
    > to
    > XP Professional. Or is there another way in Vista?
    >
    > I am comfortable editing the registry.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >

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  10. #9


    Ronnie Vernon MVP Guest

    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    Blue Max

    Sorry for the long delay, I had to deal with the CA wildfires this past
    week.


    > Interesting, because my Vista property dialogs for each user have an
    > option titled "Account is disabled" versus "Account is hidden."
    > Nevertheless, I think I understand what you are describing. In Windows XP
    > the 'Administrator' account was not displayed on the 'Welcome' screen, but
    > could still be accessed remotely or at the 'Welcome' screen using
    > Ctrl-Alt-Del. Is this the same behavior we should expect in Vista? In
    > other words, the account is hidden, but still active?
    Actually, you can 'disable' an account in Vista, either by using the option
    you describe or from a command line. Unfortunately, the resulting behavior
    has been changed in Vista. If you disable a user account, that account will
    no longer be available, anywhere. The CTRL+ALT+DEL behavior has changed in
    Vista. You can no longer use this keyboard combination to bring up the old
    style login dialog. If you disable or hide a user account, that account will
    no longer appear even in Safe Mode. As a result, you must be very careful
    when disabling or hiding any user account.

    >
    > If so, how do we access the Administrator account, for example, from the
    > 'Welcome' screen as we did in Windows XP? And now back to our concern in
    > our original message, how would one ever 'Unhide' or 'Enable' the
    > Administrator account in Vista Home Premium, which is hidden or disabled
    > by default, but has no snap-in? Are we going to be forced into the
    > registry to change a default or is there a utility like TWEAKUI that will
    > help with these changes?
    The only way to access the built-in Administrator account is to enable the
    account from within Vista. You can do this from an elevated command line.
    Start cmd.exe with administrator privileges and type the following.

    net user administrator /active:yes

    Press Enter.

    To disable the account, change the 'yes' to 'no'.

    You can use this command to enable or disable any user account.

    You can also use a registry edit, in the Home versions of Vista, to force
    the old style login dialog box to appear. If you do enable this, the login
    dialog will appear everytime you boot and no user accounts will be visible.

    --

    Ronnie Vernon
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Shell/User


    "Blue Max" <mailrichard@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:C0A55E0A-4590-46FC-8A27-AC043187E19E@xxxxxx

    > Thank you, Ronnie, see in-line replies below:
    >
    > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:F9BDAA53-C51B-4DCD-AB83-8857DB928B40@xxxxxx

    >> Blue Max
    >>
    >> Just like the XP Home versions, the Vista Home versions do not include
    >> the management console snap-ins like local users and groups.
    >
    > I was afraid this might be the case. Thank you for the confirmation.
    >

    >> Most everything that you can do with the MMC can be done in the home
    >> versions using direct registry edits.
    >
    > This is good go know, a little more technical than I might have wanted,
    > but a useful possibility.
    >

    >> There is no way to actually 'disable' an account in Vista, but you can
    >> 'hide' an account so that it is invisible on the login screen.
    >
    >
    > Thank you for the help.
    >

    >> Let me know if this is what you want to do.
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Ronnie Vernon
    >> Microsoft MVP
    >> Windows Shell/User
    >>
    >>
    >> "Blue Max" <mailrichard@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:B0AB9C15-7F6F-49CD-A59D-CD44C5373B00@xxxxxx

    >>>I am working on a laptop computer running Microsoft Vista Home Premium.
    >>>I wanted to access the utility for modifying user account permissions;
    >>>normally found in the 'Local Users and Groups' dialog within the Windows
    >>>Computer Management utility (right-click Computer icon and select
    >>>Manage). However, I cannot find any 'Local Users and Groups' option in
    >>>Vista Home Premium. Without this feature how can we enable or disable
    >>>user accounts or profiles?
    >>>
    >>
    >

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  11. #10


    Blue Max Guest

    Re: User Accounts in Vista Home Premium?

    > Actually, you can 'disable' an account in Vista, either by using the

    > option you describe or from a command line. Unfortunately, the resulting
    > behavior has been changed in Vista. If you disable a user account, that
    > account will no longer be available, anywhere. The CTRL+ALT+DEL behavior
    > has changed in Vista. You can no longer use this keyboard combination to
    > bring up the old style login dialog. If you disable or hide a user
    > account, that account will no longer appear even in Safe Mode. As a
    > result, you must be very careful when disabling or hiding any user
    > account.
    This is pretty scary stuff! Why didn't they build in a feature that would
    prevent the user from hiding or disabling the only remaining administrator
    account? It doesn't take a psyhic to foresee that there are going to be
    some really angry users down the road who fall prey to this oversight;
    potientially at great cost to themselves or their business entity.


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