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    Taking ownership of Vista files and folders from an XP machine

    We have a situation where we need to recover a customers data from a Hard
    Drive that has a corrupt Vista installation. Our workshop only uses XP based
    machines, (we will not convert to Vista) and we can mount the Vista volume
    and see files and folders, but cannot take ownership of those files and
    folders in order to complete a data port. Is there any way to take ownership
    of those files and folders or are we going to have to build a Vista system in
    order to take ownership of that Data. We have added the option to take
    ownership (as per well documented methods on the web) but as there is no
    trust relationship between the Vista corrupt system, our XP machine or our
    domain, we cannot take ownership of the files. Bear in mind please if the
    only way is to build that additional machine, then we will likely charge that
    out against the data recovery and i suspect with that additional charge the
    customer will not bother to retrieve the data. Before anyone suggests it we
    have tried Vista Virtual machines and that is a no go. HP as the OEM provider
    of the faulty system have no answer to date. Microsoft technical help just
    bounce us to HP.
    -- Welcome suggestions at this point
    Kapiti Tech



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    Re: Taking ownership of Vista files and folders from an XP machine

    Quote Originally Posted by KapitiTech View Post
    We have a situation where we need to recover a customers data from a Hard
    Drive that has a corrupt Vista installation. Our workshop only uses XP based
    machines, (we will not convert to Vista) and we can mount the Vista volume
    and see files and folders, but cannot take ownership of those files and
    folders in order to complete a data port. Is there any way to take ownership
    of those files and folders or are we going to have to build a Vista system in
    order to take ownership of that Data. We have added the option to take
    ownership (as per well documented methods on the web) but as there is no
    trust relationship between the Vista corrupt system, our XP machine or our
    domain, we cannot take ownership of the files. Bear in mind please if the
    only way is to build that additional machine, then we will likely charge that
    out against the data recovery and i suspect with that additional charge the
    customer will not bother to retrieve the data. Before anyone suggests it we
    have tried Vista Virtual machines and that is a no go. HP as the OEM provider
    of the faulty system have no answer to date. Microsoft technical help just
    bounce us to HP.
    -- Welcome suggestions at this point
    Kapiti Tech
    Hi Kapiti Tech,

    You might consider trying to do a Repair Install. This will allow you to repair your Vista installation without loosing your files, settings, and programs.

    Repair Install For Vista

    Hope this helps you in this situation.

    Shawn

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    Re: Taking ownership of Vista files and folders from an XP machine

    It's a long shot, but I would try booting UBCD4Windows (or similar tool) and
    see you have any better luck from its environment. If you do PC service,
    can you really avoid Vista indefinitely?
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    "KapitiTech" <KapitiTech@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    > We have a situation where we need to recover a customers data from a Hard
    > Drive that has a corrupt Vista installation. Our workshop only uses XP
    > based
    > machines, (we will not convert to Vista) and we can mount the Vista volume
    > and see files and folders, but cannot take ownership of those files and
    > folders in order to complete a data port. Is there any way to take
    > ownership
    > of those files and folders or are we going to have to build a Vista system
    > in
    > order to take ownership of that Data. We have added the option to take
    > ownership (as per well documented methods on the web) but as there is no
    > trust relationship between the Vista corrupt system, our XP machine or our
    > domain, we cannot take ownership of the files. Bear in mind please if the
    > only way is to build that additional machine, then we will likely charge
    > that
    > out against the data recovery and i suspect with that additional charge
    > the
    > customer will not bother to retrieve the data. Before anyone suggests it
    > we
    > have tried Vista Virtual machines and that is a no go. HP as the OEM
    > provider
    > of the faulty system have no answer to date. Microsoft technical help just
    > bounce us to HP.
    > -- Welcome suggestions at this point
    > Kapiti Tech

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    Re: Taking ownership of Vista files and folders from an XP machine

    Thanks for the suggestion. The repair reinstall is where we thought we would
    end up as well and it is a real possiblity depending on exactly what HP
    actually send us. They have promised to ship a "recovery CD" as the standard
    F11 recovery does not work.
    As to the issue of avoiding Vista completely- all i can offer is our own
    experience. To date we have yet to sell a Vista machine and that goes for
    laptops as well, and that is what 9 months into the consumer release, so i
    think we'll probably have no problem avoiding the conversion for a while yet.
    We seem to sell a solid amount of XP equiped machines though, so with a bit
    of luck we may avoid this particular OS completely and hope that the next
    iteration is a more friendly release.
    --
    Kapiti Tech


    "brink" wrote:

    >
    > KapitiTech;497062 Wrote:

    > > We have a situation where we need to recover a customers data from a
    > > Hard
    > > Drive that has a corrupt Vista installation. Our workshop only uses XP
    > > based
    > > machines, (we will not convert to Vista) and we can mount the Vista
    > > volume
    > > and see files and folders, but cannot take ownership of those files and
    > > folders in order to complete a data port. Is there any way to take
    > > ownership
    > > of those files and folders or are we going to have to build a Vista
    > > system in
    > > order to take ownership of that Data. We have added the option to take
    > > ownership (as per well documented methods on the web) but as there is
    > > no
    > > trust relationship between the Vista corrupt system, our XP machine or
    > > our
    > > domain, we cannot take ownership of the files. Bear in mind please if
    > > the
    > > only way is to build that additional machine, then we will likely
    > > charge that
    > > out against the data recovery and i suspect with that additional charge
    > > the
    > > customer will not bother to retrieve the data. Before anyone suggests
    > > it we
    > > have tried Vista Virtual machines and that is a no go. HP as the OEM
    > > provider
    > > of the faulty system have no answer to date. Microsoft technical help
    > > just
    > > bounce us to HP.
    > > -- Welcome suggestions at this point
    > > Kapiti Tech
    >
    > Hi Kapiti Tech,
    >
    > You might consider trying to do a Repair Install. This will allow you
    > to repair your Vista installation without loosing your files, settings,
    > and programs.
    >
    > Repair Install For Vista
    >
    > Hope this helps you in this situation.
    >
    > Shawn
    >
    >
    > --
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    Re: Taking ownership of Vista files and folders from an XP machine

    Quote Originally Posted by KapitiTech View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. The repair reinstall is where we thought we would
    end up as well and it is a real possiblity depending on exactly what HP
    actually send us. They have promised to ship a "recovery CD" as the standard
    F11 recovery does not work.
    As to the issue of avoiding Vista completely- all i can offer is our own
    experience. To date we have yet to sell a Vista machine and that goes for
    laptops as well, and that is what 9 months into the consumer release, so i
    think we'll probably have no problem avoiding the conversion for a while yet.
    We seem to sell a solid amount of XP equiped machines though, so with a bit
    of luck we may avoid this particular OS completely and hope that the next
    iteration is a more friendly release.
    --
    Kapiti Tech


    "brink" wrote:
    Hi Kapiti Tech,
    >
    > You might consider trying to do a Repair Install. This will allow you
    > to repair your Vista installation without loosing your files, settings,
    > and programs.
    >
    >
    Repair Install For Vista
    >
    > Hope this helps you in this situation.
    >
    > Shawn
    Your welcome,

    I do not think you will be able to do a Repair Install from just a "recovery CD". These are usually just a clone of the hard drive with a blank Vista install on it. You might be able to do one from any Vista installation DVD, but you will need the product key for the one installed now to do it. If you do not already have it, you can use this program to extract it if you are able to install anything on the computer. See this tutorial.

    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/85...oduct-key.html


    Hope this helps,
    Shawn

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