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| | Vista Home Premium and Administrator I am the Administrator on my computer, yet Vista will not let me uninstall or install certain programs. Even if I right click and select run as administrator, it still does not work. Again, this is not on all programs. I have a few games that I downloaded and cannot uninstall from control panel, even if I right click and run as Administrator. This is very annoying. I am the sole user of this computer and I have no control as I did with XP. I tried several ideas from other forums and nothing worked. I just tried to uninstall Itunes and it said: "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation". "You do not have sufficient access to unistall iTunes. Please contact your system administrator". I AM THE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR and what policies are they talking about? I never set anything. If these policies exist, how do I change them? |
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| | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator "The Cat''''s Meow" <TheCatsMeow@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1D23A3EF-73AD-460E-81A1-21904F18AC30@xxxxxx Quote: >I am the Administrator on my computer, yet Vista will not let me uninstall > or install certain programs. > Even if I right click and select run as administrator, it still does not > work. > Again, this is not on all programs. > > I have a few games that I downloaded and cannot uninstall from control > panel, even if I right click and run as Administrator. This is very > annoying. > I am the sole user of this computer and I have no control as I did with > XP. > > I tried several ideas from other forums and nothing worked. > > I just tried to uninstall Itunes and it said: > > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation". > "You do not have sufficient access to unistall iTunes. Please contact your > system administrator". > > I AM THE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR and what policies are they talking about? > I never set anything. > If these policies exist, how do I change them? Administrator account or just an account that you created and have made a member of the administrators group ? There is a big distinction between the 2 as the real Administrator account is not subject to the same degree of restrictions an admin account (even one that is a member of the administrators group) is subject to. -- Mike Brannigan |
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| | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator "Mike Brannigan" wrote: Quote: > "The Cat''''s Meow" <TheCatsMeow@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:1D23A3EF-73AD-460E-81A1-21904F18AC30@xxxxxx Quote: > >I am the Administrator on my computer, yet Vista will not let me uninstall > > or install certain programs. > > Even if I right click and select run as administrator, it still does not > > work. > > Again, this is not on all programs. > > > > I have a few games that I downloaded and cannot uninstall from control > > panel, even if I right click and run as Administrator. This is very > > annoying. > > I am the sole user of this computer and I have no control as I did with > > XP. > > > > I tried several ideas from other forums and nothing worked. > > > > I just tried to uninstall Itunes and it said: > > > > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation". > > "You do not have sufficient access to unistall iTunes. Please contact your > > system administrator". > > > > I AM THE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR and what policies are they talking about? > > I never set anything. > > If these policies exist, how do I change them? > Are you actually logging on with the default automatically created > Administrator account or just an account that you created and have made a > member of the administrators group ? > There is a big distinction between the 2 as the real Administrator account > is not subject to the same degree of restrictions an admin account (even one > that is a member of the administrators group) is subject to. > > -- > > Mike Brannigan > When I upgraded from Windows XP SP2 to Vista Premium Home, I created an account for myself, my husband (never uses it) and a guest. I created them all as Administrators. What default administrator are you talking about? I only see my 3 accounts. |
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| | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator "The Cat''''s Meow" <TheCatsMeow@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F3DFE0D5-8C26-47F6-9A0E-106C12117E40@xxxxxx Quote: > > > "Mike Brannigan" wrote: > Quote: >> "The Cat''''s Meow" <TheCatsMeow@xxxxxx> wrote in >> message >> news:1D23A3EF-73AD-460E-81A1-21904F18AC30@xxxxxx Quote: >> >I am the Administrator on my computer, yet Vista will not let me >> >uninstall >> > or install certain programs. >> > Even if I right click and select run as administrator, it still does >> > not >> > work. >> > Again, this is not on all programs. >> > >> > I have a few games that I downloaded and cannot uninstall from control >> > panel, even if I right click and run as Administrator. This is very >> > annoying. >> > I am the sole user of this computer and I have no control as I did with >> > XP. >> > >> > I tried several ideas from other forums and nothing worked. >> > >> > I just tried to uninstall Itunes and it said: >> > >> > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this >> > installation". >> > "You do not have sufficient access to unistall iTunes. Please contact >> > your >> > system administrator". >> > >> > I AM THE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR and what policies are they talking about? >> > I never set anything. >> > If these policies exist, how do I change them? >> Are you actually logging on with the default automatically created >> Administrator account or just an account that you created and have made a >> member of the administrators group ? >> There is a big distinction between the 2 as the real Administrator >> account >> is not subject to the same degree of restrictions an admin account (even >> one >> that is a member of the administrators group) is subject to. >> >> -- >> >> Mike Brannigan >> > What do you mean? > When I upgraded from Windows XP SP2 to Vista Premium Home, I created an > account for myself, my husband (never uses it) and a guest. > I created them all as Administrators. > What default administrator are you talking about? > I only see my 3 accounts. accounts (this makes them members of the the Administrators local group), BUT the newer more secure model within Vista even has these account restricted to help prevent you doing something untoward or if you accidently run piece of ,malicious code or virus you may still have a chance to prevent catastrophic damage. There is a hidden account actually called Administrator. Ideally you should learn a little more about the new security before you consider using this Administrator account. However if you wish to enable it then open an administrative command prompt the, run the following command: net user administrator /active:yes -- Mike Brannigan |
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| | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator This earlier complaint from The Cat's Meow and the reply from Mike Brannigan echo my concerns very closely. I'm getting increasingly annoyed at the restrictions that Vista places places on us -- why, oh, why will Microsoft not allow those who are prepared to take the risk to do as they will, instead of having any number of (often meaningless) restrictions placed upon us. Like Cat's Meow, I'm the only user of my computer and I want to be able to access all parts of the hard drive. For example, I want to look at the Documents and Settings folder, but Vista tells me that access is denied!! Questions for Mike and anybody else who'd like to respond: 1. Where do I learn about the new security that Mike suggests we study before using the Administrator account? 2. What is so different or so new that deserves all these restrictions, or is just that Microsoft thinks that we're all new users who need to be protected from themselves? 3. How do I log on as Administrator? The command below seems to do nothing for me. 4. Can I log on as Administrator and then always use that account? (ie, so that I always have complete control over my computer) Look forward to your help. Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia <snip earlier messages> Quote: > Quote: >> What do you mean? >> When I upgraded from Windows XP SP2 to Vista Premium Home, I created an >> account for myself, my husband (never uses it) and a guest. >> I created them all as Administrators. >> What default administrator are you talking about? >> I only see my 3 accounts. > Indeed so you have your 2 accounts and you have made then administrative > accounts (this makes them members of the the Administrators local group), > BUT the newer more secure model within Vista even has these account > restricted to help prevent you doing something untoward or if you > accidently run piece of ,malicious code or virus you may still have a > chance to prevent catastrophic damage. > There is a hidden account actually called Administrator. > Ideally you should learn a little more about the new security before you > consider using this Administrator account. > However if you wish to enable it then open an administrative command > prompt the, run the following command: > > net user administrator /active:yes > > -- > > Mike Brannigan |
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| | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator Lindsay One thing that you need to understand is with the proliferation of Viruses in recent years combined with the proliferation of Broadband every computer user has a responsibility to do everything possible to protect their system. The first action a virus will perform is to send itself to everyone in your address book. It will then use your internet connection to 'broadcast' itself to other unsuspecting victims who are connected to the internet. The days are long gone when someone can state that "It's my computer and I'm willing to take the risk". Go to Google and search for "Blaster Worm" and you'll see what I'm talking about. Security : Inside Windows Vista User Account Control -- TechNet Magazine, June 2007: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...c/default.aspx The changes to the built-in administrator account in Windows Vista: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942956 The administrator account does not appear on the Windows Vista Welcome screen: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183 Vista Changes: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/win...+administrator -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message news FC6D08D-036D-406C-A920-01196EE2C60A@xxxxxxQuote: > This earlier complaint from The Cat's Meow and the reply from Mike > Brannigan echo my concerns very closely. I'm getting increasingly annoyed > at the restrictions that Vista places places on us -- why, oh, why will > Microsoft not allow those who are prepared to take the risk to do as they > will, instead of having any number of (often meaningless) restrictions > placed upon us. > > Like Cat's Meow, I'm the only user of my computer and I want to be able to > access all parts of the hard drive. For example, I want to look at the > Documents and Settings folder, but Vista tells me that access is denied!! > > Questions for Mike and anybody else who'd like to respond: > 1. Where do I learn about the new security that Mike suggests we study > before using the Administrator account? > 2. What is so different or so new that deserves all these restrictions, > or is just that Microsoft thinks that we're all new users who need to be > protected from themselves? > 3. How do I log on as Administrator? The command below seems to do > nothing for me. > 4. Can I log on as Administrator and then always use that account? (ie, > so that I always have complete control over my computer) > > Look forward to your help. > > Lindsay Graham > Canberra, Australia > > > > <snip earlier messages> > Quote: >> Quote: >>> What do you mean? >>> When I upgraded from Windows XP SP2 to Vista Premium Home, I created an >>> account for myself, my husband (never uses it) and a guest. >>> I created them all as Administrators. >>> What default administrator are you talking about? >>> I only see my 3 accounts. >> Indeed so you have your 2 accounts and you have made then administrative >> accounts (this makes them members of the the Administrators local group), >> BUT the newer more secure model within Vista even has these account >> restricted to help prevent you doing something untoward or if you >> accidently run piece of ,malicious code or virus you may still have a >> chance to prevent catastrophic damage. >> There is a hidden account actually called Administrator. >> Ideally you should learn a little more about the new security before you >> consider using this Administrator account. >> However if you wish to enable it then open an administrative command >> prompt the, run the following command: >> >> net user administrator /active:yes >> >> -- >> >> Mike Brannigan |
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| vista | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator You know Ron, either I am in over my head here, or those links did nothing to help explain how to enable US as consumers of the microsoft product to use it as WE see fit. All I read were a bunch of words and charts that only a learned computer type would be able to interpret. However, please remember that you are dealing with idiots. Now myself, as a rotary wing pilot, has no capability to understand the vast and dangerous world of Vista security. But as a member of the armed forces I can tell you that yes, todays world is a perilous one indeed. But, I must say that your reasoning behind the current measures that limit I and my peers from running our computers at home as we see fit are more aptly explained by saying its the same reason you don't let babies play with matches. This in itself is a bit irritating and almost insulting. Know this, had microsoft not completely taken over the world of computers as it seems to me, I would certainly switch, but it seems that its not as simple as switching to GIECO. I don't have the time or money to try to reconfigure everything I know to match another operating system, so I will ask nicely as I have in so many other forums. How can I enable my own adminitrator priveledges on my own computer? I PROMISE I will leave windows defender running, and my Symantec, or Norton, whichever you like better, and will even unplug the damn thing when I am done. All I and many others want to do is delete some files, or upgrade a program. I don't see it as sinister a picture as you painted. Edit* After further research... or google-ing rather, I believe I have found the answer here. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67567-administrator-account.html Last edited by azulyn; 01-03-2008 at 03:15 PM.. |
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| Vista Home Basic | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator Dear All, the problem is due to the issue that administrator account in the vista comes as disabled. you can enable the same with a small process firt go to accessories. then try to find command prompt. right click on the same and select "Run as Administrator". then type as it is shown below. net user administrator /active This will make the administrator active. then you can change the password of the administrator with the standard procedure. you will find some solaice for the problems faced. Krrish |
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| | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator Thanks for these helpful explanations, Ronnie. However, I still have problems -- rather than once again complain about the strait-jacket that Microsoft forces us into, let me ask some specific questions: 1. You say that to delete system files or files that belong to another user account, 'you will need to take ownership of the file and then change the permissions for that file before you can delete it'. How do I 'take ownership of the file'? Can I take ownership of a folder and all the files in it? 2. More specifically, how do I access (and add files to or delete files in) the Documents and Settings folder? In a user account, Vista will not let me share this folder. In the b-in Administrator account, I cannot see the D&S folder at all. How do I get around these barriers? 3. To be more specific again, I want to delete a user account, but move its files elsewhere before I delete it. How do I get around Vista's barriers to enable me to do that? 4. You also say 'I urge you NOT to use this account [ie, the built-in Administrator account]. Remember the reasons that I already described.' I've read and re-read your 2 posts, and the only reason that I can see for not using the built-in Administrator account is that I would not be able to use IE in protected mode. What other reasons are you referring to? Hope you (or others) can help. Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:3AE85FA2-6F68-4E1C-92F9-9915E4F93F3D@xxxxxx Quote: > Azulyn > > OK, plain language. > > The first concept that you need to understand is that Windows is not just > another software program, it's an operating system. It's what enables all > of the software and hardware on the computer perform the way it was > designed to perform. In your profession, you can equate this with the > controls that allow your rotary aircraft to perform the way it was > designed. Just like your aircraft controls have rules that must be > followed when you operate them an operating system also has rules that > must be followed. If you violate those rules you crash your aircraft or > you crash your computer. If you get a new aircraft, with a different set > of controls, you must learn new ways of doing things. It's the same way > with a computer and a new operating system. > > You can bypass most of the security options in Vista by using the built-in > administrator account. The problem with this is that the security model in > Vista is multi-layered. In other words, if you break one component of this > security model, most of the other parts are also broken, since they depend > on UAC. > > Some of these components are: > > User Account Control (UAC). This component notifies you if a program you > start is trying to gain systemwide, unrestricted access to every part of > the operating system. If it does this, UAC will ask for your permission > before allowing the program to gain this access. > > File Virtualization (Data Redirection). This component provides > compatibility for older programs and by enabling legacy applications to > run in non-administrator accounts. It automatically creates copies of > files that an application can use when it does not have permission to > access the original files that are contained in a restricted folder such > as Program Files. > > Registry Virtualization. (Registry Redirection) Similar to file > virtualization except that a program that tries to write to a global, > restricted part of the Registry, such as the HKEY LOCAL MACHINE, system > section of the registry is redirected to the HKEY CURRENT USER, users > section of the registry. > > (If you have already installed some older programs, these programs may > stop working, or not work properly, because their configuration files and > settings have already been virtualized.) > > Internet Explorer Protected Mode. You will not be able to use IE in > protected mode while you are logged on with this account. > > Even when you are using the built-in administrator account, you may still > encounter some access denied messages when accessing certain files or > folders. This is due to the permissions (another part of the security > model) on some files and folders. > Quote: >>All I and many others want to do is delete some files, or upgrade a >>program.< > You can delete any files you wish as long as they belong to the user > account that you are using to log onto the system. If they belong to the > system, another user account, or they are located in a restricted section > of the file structure, such as C:, C:\Program Files, or C:\Windows, then > you will need to take ownership of the file and then change the > permissions for that file before you can delete it. > > If you are having a problem upgrading a program, then there can be several > causes of the upgrade failing. It is an older program that is not > completely compatible with Vista, you need to elevate the installation > file with admin privileges, or the upgrade file has been corrupted. > > There are several ways that you can enable the built-in administrator > account, depending on which version of Vista you are using. I urge you to > NOT use this account for your everyday account. Remember the reasons that > I already described. > > 1. All Versions. Go to Start/All Programs/Accessories. Right click the > 'Command Prompt' item and select 'Run As Administrator'. In the command > window, type the following: > > net user administrator /active:yes > > (Be sure to type the command exactly as shown, including the spaces and > colon) > > Press Enter. > > You should see 'the command completed successfully'. > > 2. Business or Ultimate versions. Press WINKEY+R to open the Run Box. > Type control userpasswords2 in the Open box and click OK. > Click the Advanced Tab in the User Accounts dialog. > Click the Advanced Button. > In the lusrmgr dialog, click Users, in the left column. > Right click Administrator in the center section and click the Properties > item. > Remove the check mark from the 'Account is disabled' option. > Click Apply/OK. > > Reboot the computer. > > The administrator account should appear on the login screen. This account > does not have a password associated with it, by default. You should set a > password for the account in Control Panel/User Accounts. > > > > -- > > Ronnie Vernon > Microsoft MVP > Windows Shell/User > |
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| Vista Home Premium 32bit | Re: Vista Home Premium and Administrator i have been trying to find out have to enable the built in administrator but i am a standard user and my dad has perental controls on for me, is there a way i can bypass this and become an administrator |
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