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Old 12-13-2007   #1 (permalink)
CharlesMiller


 
 

Permissions

I am the sole account on my machine (and am therefore the Administrator) yet
I am constantly receiving messages that i do not have the Administrator's
permission to delete or even save some files. Whenever this happens I try to
change the properties for the file to allow access to all users but it makes
no difference. I wan t to have access to everything and be able to do with it
as I want. What can i do? I did not have this problkem with XP.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2007   #2 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Permissions

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by CharlesMiller View Post
I am the sole account on my machine (and am therefore the Administrator) yet
I am constantly receiving messages that i do not have the Administrator's
permission to delete or even save some files. Whenever this happens I try to
change the properties for the file to allow access to all users but it makes
no difference. I wan t to have access to everything and be able to do with it
as I want. What can i do? I did not have this problkem with XP.
Hi Charles,

Try to take ownership of the file first, then try to modify it. It should work for you unless it's a symbolic link. (EX: "My Documents" for "Documents" folder)

You can see how to in this tutorial.

Take Ownership of file

Shawn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2007   #3 (permalink)
Ronnie Vernon MVP


 
 

Re: Permissions

"CharlesMiller" <CharlesMiller@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7C9C162C-E65E-47E1-AB1B-1DB8C470AC7D@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I am the sole account on my machine (and am therefore the Administrator)
>yet
> I am constantly receiving messages that i do not have the Administrator's
> permission to delete or even save some files. Whenever this happens I try
> to
> change the properties for the file to allow access to all users but it
> makes
> no difference. I wan t to have access to everything and be able to do with
> it
> as I want. What can i do? I did not have this problkem with XP.
Charles

Experience has shown that permission changes can change the fundamental
behavior of the Vista operating system, resulting in seemingly unrelated and
unexpected behavior in other components or programs. These changes can
affect security, application compatibility, stability, and reduce
functionality, performance, and capability. You can compare this to pulling
one of the bottom cards out of a house of cards. Further, you may not be
able to undo extensive permission changes that are propagated throughout the
registry and file system by simply reversing the action.

Some things you may see if extensive permission changes are made:
The failure of user accounts to function as expected.
Reduction in security.
Standard users ability to view the contents of other users content, even
administrators folders.
Performance problems such as long logon times or system slowdowns.
Application compatibility problems or application crashes.

These are situations where the only way to get back to the out-of-the-box
settings may be to reformat the hard drive and perform a reinstallation of
the operating system.

If you really want things to behave the way they did in XP, you should
install XP.
--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2007   #4 (permalink)
CharlesMiller


 
 

Re: Permissions

Thank you, but I can't see why as the sole user I cannot grant permissions to
myself. I am not talking of deleting system files - yesterday it would not
even allow me to save an ordinary Word file.

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
Quote:

> "CharlesMiller" <CharlesMiller@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:7C9C162C-E65E-47E1-AB1B-1DB8C470AC7D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I am the sole account on my machine (and am therefore the Administrator)
> >yet
> > I am constantly receiving messages that i do not have the Administrator's
> > permission to delete or even save some files. Whenever this happens I try
> > to
> > change the properties for the file to allow access to all users but it
> > makes
> > no difference. I wan t to have access to everything and be able to do with
> > it
> > as I want. What can i do? I did not have this problkem with XP.
>
> Charles
>
> Experience has shown that permission changes can change the fundamental
> behavior of the Vista operating system, resulting in seemingly unrelated and
> unexpected behavior in other components or programs. These changes can
> affect security, application compatibility, stability, and reduce
> functionality, performance, and capability. You can compare this to pulling
> one of the bottom cards out of a house of cards. Further, you may not be
> able to undo extensive permission changes that are propagated throughout the
> registry and file system by simply reversing the action.
>
> Some things you may see if extensive permission changes are made:
> The failure of user accounts to function as expected.
> Reduction in security.
> Standard users ability to view the contents of other users content, even
> administrators folders.
> Performance problems such as long logon times or system slowdowns.
> Application compatibility problems or application crashes.
>
> These are situations where the only way to get back to the out-of-the-box
> settings may be to reformat the hard drive and perform a reinstallation of
> the operating system.
>
> If you really want things to behave the way they did in XP, you should
> install XP.
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-16-2007   #5 (permalink)
Ronnie Vernon MVP


 
 

Re: Permissions

Charles

You are free to make any changes you wish, it is your computer. I just feel
that users need to be warned of the possible consequences before making
wholesale changes to the OS.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"CharlesMiller" <CharlesMiller@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:53FE4929-8768-40B3-8251-4422B8A06F3C@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thank you, but I can't see why as the sole user I cannot grant permissions
> to
> myself. I am not talking of deleting system files - yesterday it would not
> even allow me to save an ordinary Word file.
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> "CharlesMiller" <CharlesMiller@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> message
>> news:7C9C162C-E65E-47E1-AB1B-1DB8C470AC7D@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> >I am the sole account on my machine (and am therefore the Administrator)
>> >yet
>> > I am constantly receiving messages that i do not have the
>> > Administrator's
>> > permission to delete or even save some files. Whenever this happens I
>> > try
>> > to
>> > change the properties for the file to allow access to all users but it
>> > makes
>> > no difference. I wan t to have access to everything and be able to do
>> > with
>> > it
>> > as I want. What can i do? I did not have this problkem with XP.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> Experience has shown that permission changes can change the fundamental
>> behavior of the Vista operating system, resulting in seemingly unrelated
>> and
>> unexpected behavior in other components or programs. These changes can
>> affect security, application compatibility, stability, and reduce
>> functionality, performance, and capability. You can compare this to
>> pulling
>> one of the bottom cards out of a house of cards. Further, you may not be
>> able to undo extensive permission changes that are propagated throughout
>> the
>> registry and file system by simply reversing the action.
>>
>> Some things you may see if extensive permission changes are made:
>> The failure of user accounts to function as expected.
>> Reduction in security.
>> Standard users ability to view the contents of other users content, even
>> administrators folders.
>> Performance problems such as long logon times or system slowdowns.
>> Application compatibility problems or application crashes.
>>
>> These are situations where the only way to get back to the out-of-the-box
>> settings may be to reformat the hard drive and perform a reinstallation
>> of
>> the operating system.
>>
>> If you really want things to behave the way they did in XP, you should
>> install XP.
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-17-2007   #6 (permalink)
CharlesMiller


 
 

Re: Permissions


Thank you for responding. How can I make those changes? I am the
administrator, yet I am frequently being told that I cannot make changes
without my own permission. I have gone into Properties and set the relevant
files to be accessible by all users, but I still cannot delete or even in
some cases save them in certain places.



"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
Quote:

> Charles
>
> You are free to make any changes you wish, it is your computer. I just feel
> that users need to be warned of the possible consequences before making
> wholesale changes to the OS.


--
Quote:

>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "CharlesMiller" <CharlesMiller@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:53FE4929-8768-40B3-8251-4422B8A06F3C@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Thank you, but I can't see why as the sole user I cannot grant permissions
> > to
> > myself. I am not talking of deleting system files - yesterday it would not
> > even allow me to save an ordinary Word file.
> >
> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> "CharlesMiller" <CharlesMiller@xxxxxx> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:7C9C162C-E65E-47E1-AB1B-1DB8C470AC7D@xxxxxx
> >> >I am the sole account on my machine (and am therefore the Administrator)
> >> >yet
> >> > I am constantly receiving messages that i do not have the
> >> > Administrator's
> >> > permission to delete or even save some files. Whenever this happens I
> >> > try
> >> > to
> >> > change the properties for the file to allow access to all users but it
> >> > makes
> >> > no difference. I wan t to have access to everything and be able to do
> >> > with
> >> > it
> >> > as I want. What can i do? I did not have this problkem with XP.
> >>
> >> Charles
> >>
> >> Experience has shown that permission changes can change the fundamental
> >> behavior of the Vista operating system, resulting in seemingly unrelated
> >> and
> >> unexpected behavior in other components or programs. These changes can
> >> affect security, application compatibility, stability, and reduce
> >> functionality, performance, and capability. You can compare this to
> >> pulling
> >> one of the bottom cards out of a house of cards. Further, you may not be
> >> able to undo extensive permission changes that are propagated throughout
> >> the
> >> registry and file system by simply reversing the action.
> >>
> >> Some things you may see if extensive permission changes are made:
> >> The failure of user accounts to function as expected.
> >> Reduction in security.
> >> Standard users ability to view the contents of other users content, even
> >> administrators folders.
> >> Performance problems such as long logon times or system slowdowns.
> >> Application compatibility problems or application crashes.
> >>
> >> These are situations where the only way to get back to the out-of-the-box
> >> settings may be to reformat the hard drive and perform a reinstallation
> >> of
> >> the operating system.
> >>
> >> If you really want things to behave the way they did in XP, you should
> >> install XP.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ronnie Vernon
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-17-2007   #7 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Permissions

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by CharlesMiller View Post
Thank you for responding. How can I make those changes? I am the
administrator, yet I am frequently being told that I cannot make changes
without my own permission. I have gone into Properties and set the relevant
files to be accessible by all users, but I still cannot delete or even in
some cases save them in certain places.
Hi Charles,

You will need to take ownership of the file first, then you will be able to modify it. It should work for you unless it's a symbolic link. (EX: "My Documents" for "Documents" folder)

You can see how to in this tutorial.

Take Ownership of file

Shawn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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