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| | Need to be able to run windows update as an administrator I'm running windows home premium 32-bit on a personal computer; no network administrators or anything, no users other than myself, and no other user accounts other than this one, which is marked as administrator. I seem to be unable to run windows update as an administrator, though. When I go to change the settings, they ones for when windows update runs(the four that control what it does automatically and what it prompts me for, as well as the time and frequency it would run automatically) are grayed out. There's a note at the top that some of these may only be accessible my my system administrator(me). This is a picture of the settings page: i29.tinypic.com/jfc2ut.jpg I tracked down wuapp.exe in system32 and tried to run that as an administrator via right click; no change in behavior. Tried to go and check the "run as administrator" box in its properties, but that's disabled. That seems to be true of everything in the system32 folder, perhaps there's some way I can circumvent this block? I asked this in the windows update discussion group and was directed to file a tech support request, which started out normal enough, but after one or two suggestions I found myself questioning the relevance of the help I was getting. In the last communication I got, it sounded like he thought I was running windows XP(haven't heard back since then, that was a few days ago), so maybe that was my fault. All the same though, I'm hoping that someone here can give me some insight before I refile one of those requests. I don't seem to have any other conflicts with administrator privileges, but all I want to do is change when windows update runs. Is there somewhere that I can temporarily completely disable administrative restrictions? Some obscure setting that's blocking me? Thanks in advance for any help. |
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| | Re: Need to be able to run windows update as an administrator Użytkownik "Joe" <Joe@xxxxxx> napisał w wiadomości news:1D8E9A8B-9A6C-44C5-B8B2-308D73217778@xxxxxx Quote: > I'm running windows home premium 32-bit on a personal computer; no network > administrators or anything, no users other than myself, and no other user > accounts other than this one, which is marked as administrator. I seem to > be > unable to run windows update as an administrator, though. When I go to > change > the settings, they ones for when windows update runs(the four that control > what it does automatically and what it prompts me for, as well as the time > and frequency it would run automatically) are grayed out. There's a note > at > the top that some of these may only be accessible my my system > administrator(me). > This is a picture of the settings page: i29.tinypic.com/jfc2ut.jpg > Have your computer scanned by AV, ASpy, immedietly. Q: There's a link "More information" on linked picture. Have you followed that link? If yes, what kind of info have you got? greets from Poland Irek Makowski. |
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| | Re: Need to be able to run windows update as an administrator Are you refering to a specific program by "AV, ASpy", or just generic antivirus/antispyware? I've had an active subscription of McAfee running for a few months now. The "More Information" link opens a page titled "Why won't Windows allow me to change a system setting?" in Windows Help. It gives information on how group policy may restrict certain things, and it advises me to contact my system administrator. No good, seeing as how this is my own computer. There's also information on what to do if the computer is not on a network(a major A-ha! moment the first time I read that), but the advice there ends at "contact a user with administrative privileges." Nothing on if you are a user with administrative privileges(let alone the only user). There's a link to http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx, which seems to cater to users who are very much above my level. Perhaps someone could point me at a place to control group policy settings? Windows seems to think that group policy would cause this restriction, but offers no help on altering any such settings. "Ireneusz Makowski" wrote: Quote: > > > Użytkownik "Joe" <Joe@xxxxxx> napisał w wiadomości > news:1D8E9A8B-9A6C-44C5-B8B2-308D73217778@xxxxxx Quote: > > I'm running windows home premium 32-bit on a personal computer; no network > > administrators or anything, no users other than myself, and no other user > > accounts other than this one, which is marked as administrator. I seem to > > be > > unable to run windows update as an administrator, though. When I go to > > change > > the settings, they ones for when windows update runs(the four that control > > what it does automatically and what it prompts me for, as well as the time > > and frequency it would run automatically) are grayed out. There's a note > > at > > the top that some of these may only be accessible my my system > > administrator(me). > > This is a picture of the settings page: i29.tinypic.com/jfc2ut.jpg > > > > Have your computer scanned by AV, ASpy, immedietly. > > Q: > > There's a link "More information" on linked picture. Have you followed that > link? If yes, what kind of info have you got? > > greets from Poland > > Irek Makowski. > > |
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| | Re: Need to be able to run windows update as an administrator "Joe" wrote: Quote: > Are you refering to a specific program by "AV, ASpy", or just generic > antivirus/antispyware? I've had an active subscription of McAfee running for > a few months now. > > The "More Information" link opens a page titled "Why won't Windows allow me > to change a system setting?" in Windows Help. It gives information on how > group policy may restrict certain things, and it advises me to contact my > system administrator. No good, seeing as how this is my own computer. There's > also information on what to do if the computer is not on a network(a major > A-ha! moment the first time I read that), but the advice there ends at > "contact a user with administrative privileges." Nothing on if you are a user > with administrative privileges(let alone the only user). There's a link to > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx, which seems to cater to > users who are very much above my level. > > Perhaps someone could point me at a place to control group policy settings? > Windows seems to think that group policy would cause this restriction, but > offers no help on altering any such settings. > > "Ireneusz Makowski" wrote: > Quote: > > > > > > Użytkownik "Joe" <Joe@xxxxxx> napisał w wiadomości > > news:1D8E9A8B-9A6C-44C5-B8B2-308D73217778@xxxxxx Quote: > > > I'm running windows home premium 32-bit on a personal computer; no network > > > administrators or anything, no users other than myself, and no other user > > > accounts other than this one, which is marked as administrator. I seem to > > > be > > > unable to run windows update as an administrator, though. When I go to > > > change > > > the settings, they ones for when windows update runs(the four that control > > > what it does automatically and what it prompts me for, as well as the time > > > and frequency it would run automatically) are grayed out. There's a note > > > at > > > the top that some of these may only be accessible my my system > > > administrator(me). > > > This is a picture of the settings page: i29.tinypic.com/jfc2ut.jpg > > > > > > > Have your computer scanned by AV, ASpy, immedietly. > > > > Q: > > > > There's a link "More information" on linked picture. Have you followed that > > link? If yes, what kind of info have you got? > > > > greets from Poland > > > > Irek Makowski. > > Joe I have the same problem. single user labeled as administrator. when trying to make a system32 change I'm not recognizes as administrator Quote: Quote: > > |
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| | Re: Need to be able to run windows update as an administrator Try this steps: I hope you have 'gpedit.msc' with your version of Vista. (i'm using Business) Start:Run:type:'gpedit.msc' press enter If Group Policy Object Editor opens than go to branch: Computer(or User) Configuration:Administrative Templates:Windows Components:Windows Update ( Double-click "Configure Automatic Updates" Set it to "Not configured" Note: In case it is already set to "Not configured", enable the Policy and revert the setting back to "Not configured". This resets any registry based Policy if set already. greets from Poland Irek Makowski |
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| | Re: Need to be able to run windows update as an administrator Aha! I fixed it! Only the business and ultimate versions of vista have that gpedit.msc file, but a little googling turned up that it's really just a UI for the registry. I had already dabbled with the registry trying to fix this, but I had put everything back the way it was because I was only guessing what certain entires did based on their name and what happened when I found them. Luckily, I also found a spreadsheet online that lists everything gpedit.msc normally does and found what I needed to change(had already played around with that entry, but didn't know that it went as high as the value I needed it to be at). For anyone who has the same problem, open the registry editor(start menu->run->regedit) and naviagte to HKey_Local_Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU. Find the entry named "AUOptions"(should be second on the list) and change its value to 5(right click->modify->change whatever is in the 'value data' box to 5). This allows any user account with administrative access to modify the settings. This however, has not entirely fixed the problem; the option to disable windows update is still grayed out, and there is still a notice that some settings are managed by the system administrator, implying that group policy is still active. I suppose it would be nice if microsoft would do an update to the Home versions of vista and include gpedit.msc, since group policy being active when it shouldn't doesn't seem to be an isolated incident(counting myself, that makes three people with the exact same problem who came looking here and posted. I know that three people out of the total userbase might still be considered isolated, but that's only people who actually came looking here for a solution and replied to something I posted). Note: If anyone is reading this looking for a solution wants to disable windows update, change the value at "NoAutoUpdate" to 1. "Ireneusz Makowski" wrote: Quote: > Try this steps: > I hope you have 'gpedit.msc' with your version of Vista. (i'm using > Business) > > Start:Run:type:'gpedit.msc' press enter > > If Group Policy Object Editor opens than go to branch: > > Computer(or User) Configuration:Administrative Templates:Windows > Components:Windows Update ( > Double-click "Configure Automatic Updates" > Set it to "Not configured" > > Note: In case it is already set to "Not configured", enable the Policy and > revert the setting back to "Not configured". This resets any registry based > Policy if set already. > > greets from Poland > > Irek Makowski > > |
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| | Re: Need to be able to run windows update as an administrator Użytkownik "Joe" <Joe@xxxxxx> napisał w wiadomości news:F6ECF9CF-A059-4BCC-9322-B268955C46F3@xxxxxx Quote: > Aha! I fixed it! Only the business and ultimate versions of vista have > that > gpedit.msc file, Group Policy Settings Reference Windows Vista http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en greets from Poland Irek Makowski |
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| | Re: Need to be able to run windows update as an administrator Well, thanks for that; the spreadsheet I found and was using wasn't current for vista(though the relevant key for my solution hasn't changed). I'm pretty much done trying to solve this problem(unless it crops up somewhere else, too...), but if you(or anyone else) sees something in that spreadsheet that would be of use to me, I'm all ears. On the main screen for Windows Update it still says "You receive updates: Managed By Your System Administrator.", with a link to check online for updates. After performing that check, the link changes to "Check for updates managed by your system administrator." I'm going to check that every so often to see if anything is getting backlogged there, but for now I'm going to assume that there are no more active blocks in Windows Update. "Ireneusz Makowski" wrote: Quote: > > > Użytkownik "Joe" <Joe@xxxxxx> napisał w wiadomości > news:F6ECF9CF-A059-4BCC-9322-B268955C46F3@xxxxxx Quote: > > Aha! I fixed it! Only the business and ultimate versions of vista have > > that > > gpedit.msc file, > Check this: > Group Policy Settings Reference Windows Vista > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en > > greets from Poland > > Irek Makowski > |
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