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Allowing trusted programs through UAC
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    Thad Student Guest

    Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
    without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
    administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
    account control in order to run.



    The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
    installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my laptop.

    This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
    see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other programs
    starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the Cisco
    app is the only one asking for permission.

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  2. #2


    P. Di Stolfo Guest

    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    Hello,

    on 03/13, Jeff Smith from Microsoft said:

    "Unfortunately, no. There's no way to white-list specific applications.

    (If this were possible, there would be sneaky ways that evil programs could
    ride on the coattails of the good applications)."

    So I don't think it's possible without re-writing the application.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    --
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    P. Di Stolfo
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    "Thad Student" <ThadStudent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
    > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
    > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
    > account control in order to run.
    >
    > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
    > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
    > laptop.
    >
    > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
    > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
    > programs
    > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
    > Cisco
    > app is the only one asking for permission.

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  3. #3


    Thad Student Guest

    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    Is it possible to "re-write" the application using the Microsoft Application
    Compatibility Toolkit? Or is this tool for something different altogether?

    "P. Di Stolfo" wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > on 03/13, Jeff Smith from Microsoft said:
    >
    > "Unfortunately, no. There's no way to white-list specific applications.
    >
    > (If this were possible, there would be sneaky ways that evil programs could
    > ride on the coattails of the good applications)."
    >
    > So I don't think it's possible without re-writing the application.
    > Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    > --
    > Greetings,
    > P. Di Stolfo
    > ---> http://atlive.wordpress.com
    >
    > "Thad Student" <ThadStudent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > newsE661E76-3870-46B7-BD0A-ACB43112AE62@xxxxxx

    > > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
    > > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
    > > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
    > > account control in order to run.
    > >
    > > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
    > > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
    > > laptop.
    > >
    > > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
    > > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
    > > programs
    > > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
    > > Cisco
    > > app is the only one asking for permission.
    >
    >

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    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Thad Student View Post
    Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
    without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
    administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
    account control in order to run.

    The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
    installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my laptop.

    This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
    see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other programs
    starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the Cisco
    app is the only one asking for permission.
    Hi Thad Student,

    You can try this to see if it will work for you.

    http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html

    Shawn

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    Thad Student Guest

    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I guess
    I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
    doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...

    "Brink" wrote:

    >
    > Thad Student;653434 Wrote:

    > > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
    > > control
    > > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
    > > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
    > > user
    > > account control in order to run.
    > >
    > > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
    > > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
    > > laptop.
    > >
    > > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
    > > can't
    > > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
    > > programs
    > > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
    > > Cisco
    > > app is the only one asking for permission.
    >
    > Hi Thad Student,
    >
    > You can try this to see if it will work for you.
    >
    > http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
    >
    > Shawn
    >
    >
    > --
    > Brink
    >
    > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
    > them.*
    > '*VISTA FORUMS*'
    > (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
    > *Please post feedback to help others.*
    >

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    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Thad Student View Post
    I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I guess
    I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
    doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...

    "Brink" wrote:
    >
    > Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
    >
    > Hi Thad Student,
    >
    > You can try this to see if it will work for you.
    >
    > http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
    >
    > Shawn
    >
    >
    > --
    > Brink
    >
    > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
    > them.*
    > '*VISTA FORUMS*'
    > (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
    > *Please post feedback to help others.*
    >
    It is hit and miss with working on programs. The only other option to do without turning UAC off, is to elevate the administrator accounts so they alone will not be bothered by the UAC prompts and still have UAC on.

    User Account Control (UAC) - Elevate Privilege Level

    Hope this helps,
    Shawn

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  7. #7


    Olivier Guest

    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC


    Maybe you could try to start it using the schedduler instead of the startup
    folder (rights are not the same)

    regards
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    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Thad Student View Post
    Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
    without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
    administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
    account control in order to run.

    The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
    installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my laptop.

    This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
    see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other programs
    starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the Cisco
    app is the only one asking for permission.
    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier View Post
    Maybe you could try to start it using the schedduler instead of the startup
    folder (rights are not the same)

    regards
    --
    Olivier
    Thank you for the reminder Olivier.

    Thad Student,

    Under Option One, Method Two will show you how to have that program startup with Vista using Task Scheduler instead to bypass UAC.

    Startup Programs - Enable or Disable

    Shawn

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  9. #9


    Ronnie Vernon MVP Guest

    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    Thad

    The best solution for this problem, without disabling any security
    components, is to use the Task Scheduler to creat a task that starts the
    program when you log on. This task can be run with highest privileges and no
    prompt from the User Account Control.

    See the following website for instructions and a small utility that
    automates creating the scheduled task.

    Download and run the Startup Unblocker utility. It will give you a list of
    all programs that are configured to start at bootup. Each item will have a
    drop down menu that you can use to 'run as administrator'. When you select
    this option for an item, the Scheduled Task will be automatically created.

    How do I run an administrative program (that needs my permission to start)
    every time I log in and prevent the "Windows has blocked some startup
    programs" message?:
    http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ...n_program.aspx

    --

    Ronnie Vernon
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "Thad Student" <ThadStudent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:B1FDFAAB-4E51-4BA1-8400-9D0FD0FBC912@xxxxxx

    >I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I
    >guess
    > I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
    > doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...
    >
    > "Brink" wrote:
    >

    >>
    >> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:

    >> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
    >> > control
    >> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
    >> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
    >> > user
    >> > account control in order to run.
    >> >
    >> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
    >> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
    >> > laptop.
    >> >
    >> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
    >> > can't
    >> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
    >> > programs
    >> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
    >> > Cisco
    >> > app is the only one asking for permission.
    >>
    >> Hi Thad Student,
    >>
    >> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
    >>
    >> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
    >>
    >> Shawn
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Brink
    >>
    >> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
    >> them.*
    >> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
    >> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
    >> *Please post feedback to help others.*
    >>

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  10. #10


    Thad Student Guest

    Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

    Thanks for the help. It is most appreciated

    "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

    > Thad
    >
    > The best solution for this problem, without disabling any security
    > components, is to use the Task Scheduler to creat a task that starts the
    > program when you log on. This task can be run with highest privileges and no
    > prompt from the User Account Control.
    >
    > See the following website for instructions and a small utility that
    > automates creating the scheduled task.
    >
    > Download and run the Startup Unblocker utility. It will give you a list of
    > all programs that are configured to start at bootup. Each item will have a
    > drop down menu that you can use to 'run as administrator'. When you select
    > this option for an item, the Scheduled Task will be automatically created.
    >
    > How do I run an administrative program (that needs my permission to start)
    > every time I log in and prevent the "Windows has blocked some startup
    > programs" message?:
    > http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ...n_program.aspx
    >
    > --
    >
    > Ronnie Vernon
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Desktop Experience
    >
    >
    > "Thad Student" <ThadStudent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:B1FDFAAB-4E51-4BA1-8400-9D0FD0FBC912@xxxxxx

    > >I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I
    > >guess
    > > I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
    > > doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...
    > >
    > > "Brink" wrote:
    > >

    > >>
    > >> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
    > >> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
    > >> > control
    > >> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
    > >> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
    > >> > user
    > >> > account control in order to run.
    > >> >
    > >> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
    > >> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
    > >> > laptop.
    > >> >
    > >> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
    > >> > can't
    > >> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
    > >> > programs
    > >> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
    > >> > Cisco
    > >> > app is the only one asking for permission.
    > >>
    > >> Hi Thad Student,
    > >>
    > >> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
    > >>
    > >> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
    > >>
    > >> Shawn
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Brink
    > >>
    > >> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
    > >> them.*
    > >> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
    > >> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
    > >> *Please post feedback to help others.*
    > >>
    >

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