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Old 03-19-2008   #1 (permalink)
Thad Student


 
 

Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
account control in order to run.

The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my laptop.

This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other programs
starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the Cisco
app is the only one asking for permission.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-19-2008   #2 (permalink)
P. Di Stolfo


 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Hello,

on 03/13, Jeff Smith from Microsoft said:

"Unfortunately, no. There's no way to white-list specific applications.

(If this were possible, there would be sneaky ways that evil programs could
ride on the coattails of the good applications)."

So I don't think it's possible without re-writing the application.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
--
Greetings,
P. Di Stolfo
---> http://atlive.wordpress.com

"Thad Student" <ThadStudent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
newsE661E76-3870-46B7-BD0A-ACB43112AE62@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
> without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
> account control in order to run.
>
> The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> laptop.
>
> This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
> see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> programs
> starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> Cisco
> app is the only one asking for permission.
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Old 03-19-2008   #3 (permalink)
Thad Student


 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Is it possible to "re-write" the application using the Microsoft Application
Compatibility Toolkit? Or is this tool for something different altogether?

"P. Di Stolfo" wrote:
Quote:

> Hello,
>
> on 03/13, Jeff Smith from Microsoft said:
>
> "Unfortunately, no. There's no way to white-list specific applications.
>
> (If this were possible, there would be sneaky ways that evil programs could
> ride on the coattails of the good applications)."
>
> So I don't think it's possible without re-writing the application.
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> --
> Greetings,
> P. Di Stolfo
> ---> http://atlive.wordpress.com
>
> "Thad Student" <ThadStudent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> newsE661E76-3870-46B7-BD0A-ACB43112AE62@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
> > account control in order to run.
> >
> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> > laptop.
> >
> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> > programs
> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> > Cisco
> > app is the only one asking for permission.
>
>
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Old 03-19-2008   #4 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Thad Student View Post
Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
account control in order to run.

The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my laptop.

This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other programs
starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the Cisco
app is the only one asking for permission.
Hi Thad Student,

You can try this to see if it will work for you.

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html

Shawn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-19-2008   #5 (permalink)
Thad Student


 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I guess
I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...

"Brink" wrote:
Quote:

>
> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
Quote:

> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
> > control
> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
> > user
> > account control in order to run.
> >
> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> > laptop.
> >
> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
> > can't
> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> > programs
> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> > Cisco
> > app is the only one asking for permission.
>
> Hi Thad Student,
>
> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
>
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> Brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
> them.*
> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>
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Old 03-19-2008   #6 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Thad Student View Post
I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I guess
I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...

"Brink" wrote:
Quote:
>
> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
>
> Hi Thad Student,
>
> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
>
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> Brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
> them.*
> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>
It is hit and miss with working on programs. The only other option to do without turning UAC off, is to elevate the administrator accounts so they alone will not be bothered by the UAC prompts and still have UAC on.

User Account Control (UAC) - Elevate Privilege Level

Hope this helps,
Shawn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-20-2008   #7 (permalink)
Olivier


 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC


Maybe you could try to start it using the schedduler instead of the startup
folder (rights are not the same)

regards
--
Olivier

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-20-2008   #8 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Thad Student View Post
Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
account control in order to run.

The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my laptop.

This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other programs
starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the Cisco
app is the only one asking for permission.
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Olivier View Post
Maybe you could try to start it using the schedduler instead of the startup
folder (rights are not the same)

regards
--
Olivier
Thank you for the reminder Olivier.

Thad Student,

Under Option One, Method Two will show you how to have that program startup with Vista using Task Scheduler instead to bypass UAC.

Startup Programs - Enable or Disable

Shawn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-20-2008   #9 (permalink)
Ronnie Vernon MVP


 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Thad

The best solution for this problem, without disabling any security
components, is to use the Task Scheduler to creat a task that starts the
program when you log on. This task can be run with highest privileges and no
prompt from the User Account Control.

See the following website for instructions and a small utility that
automates creating the scheduled task.

Download and run the Startup Unblocker utility. It will give you a list of
all programs that are configured to start at bootup. Each item will have a
drop down menu that you can use to 'run as administrator'. When you select
this option for an item, the Scheduled Task will be automatically created.

How do I run an administrative program (that needs my permission to start)
every time I log in and prevent the "Windows has blocked some startup
programs" message?:
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ...n_program.aspx

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Thad Student" <ThadStudent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B1FDFAAB-4E51-4BA1-8400-9D0FD0FBC912@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I
>guess
> I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
> doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...
>
> "Brink" wrote:
>
Quote:

>>
>> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
Quote:

>> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
>> > control
>> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
>> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
>> > user
>> > account control in order to run.
>> >
>> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
>> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
>> > laptop.
>> >
>> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
>> > can't
>> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
>> > programs
>> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
>> > Cisco
>> > app is the only one asking for permission.
>>
>> Hi Thad Student,
>>
>> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
>>
>> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brink
>>
>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
>> them.*
>> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
>> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
>> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-21-2008   #10 (permalink)
Thad Student


 
 

Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Thanks for the help. It is most appreciated

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
Quote:

> Thad
>
> The best solution for this problem, without disabling any security
> components, is to use the Task Scheduler to creat a task that starts the
> program when you log on. This task can be run with highest privileges and no
> prompt from the User Account Control.
>
> See the following website for instructions and a small utility that
> automates creating the scheduled task.
>
> Download and run the Startup Unblocker utility. It will give you a list of
> all programs that are configured to start at bootup. Each item will have a
> drop down menu that you can use to 'run as administrator'. When you select
> this option for an item, the Scheduled Task will be automatically created.
>
> How do I run an administrative program (that needs my permission to start)
> every time I log in and prevent the "Windows has blocked some startup
> programs" message?:
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ...n_program.aspx
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "Thad Student" <ThadStudent@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:B1FDFAAB-4E51-4BA1-8400-9D0FD0FBC912@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I
> >guess
> > I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
> > doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...
> >
> > "Brink" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >>
> >> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
> >> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
> >> > control
> >> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> >> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
> >> > user
> >> > account control in order to run.
> >> >
> >> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> >> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> >> > laptop.
> >> >
> >> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
> >> > can't
> >> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> >> > programs
> >> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> >> > Cisco
> >> > app is the only one asking for permission.
> >>
> >> Hi Thad Student,
> >>
> >> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
> >>
> >> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
> >>
> >> Shawn
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Brink
> >>
> >> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
> >> them.*
> >> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
> >> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
> >> *Please post feedback to help others.*
> >>
>
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