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Old 07-02-2008   #1 (permalink)
Smithy963
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How to allow someone to access my computer with their own username

Hi,

I'm using a laptop, running windows vista. A friend and I often share files
between us and when connecting to my computer via network he uses my username
and password to connect and take the files I have shared.

Ideally I would like him to click on my computer in the network then
automatically view my files under his own account name, or at least be able
to type in his own username and password. BUT I do not want to have another
account active on my own computer. (ie, 2 user accounts available on my log
in screen).

Also, I obviously do not want any security flaws so only he can access my
computer with his details.

Many thanks in advance,

Smithy963.

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Old 07-02-2008   #2 (permalink)
Mike Brannigan
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Re: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own username

"Smithy963" <Smithy963@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:46D2AF04-7DB8-42F3-9B5B-40C63C8DB373@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using a laptop, running windows vista. A friend and I often share
> files
> between us and when connecting to my computer via network he uses my
> username
> and password to connect and take the files I have shared.
>
> Ideally I would like him to click on my computer in the network then
> automatically view my files under his own account name, or at least be
> able
> to type in his own username and password. BUT I do not want to have
> another
> account active on my own computer. (ie, 2 user accounts available on my
> log
> in screen).
>
Then you can't do this.
How do you think he will use his own username and password if he does not
have a account on your computer?
So what if you get another icon on the logon screen for him - why should you
care - you want him to have his own account to ensure he is authenticated
for authorized access to files and folders, so either live with him having
an account on your machine and thus an icon on the desktop or go on using
your massively insecure current method.
Quote:

> Also, I obviously do not want any security flaws so only he can access my
> computer with his details.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Smithy963.
--

Mike Brannigan

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-02-2008   #3 (permalink)
Smithy963
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Re: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own user

What?

You are trying to tell me there is noway to share a file and give
permissions to a remote user account not on my computer.

-or-

Create a new user account specifically for him and disable it from appearing
on my log in screen.

Its my Laptop and he will never be accessing my computer physically, thus
its pointless having a whole user account and icon for him.
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Old 07-02-2008   #4 (permalink)
Smithy963
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RE: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own username

Your saying that for 2 people, with 2 computers need 4 accounts to access
both computers at all times....

This is ineffecient and pointless, similar to your post, don't post in my
thread aagain. thank you.
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Old 07-02-2008   #5 (permalink)
Mike Brannigan
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Re: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own user

"Smithy963" <Smithy963@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> What?
>
> You are trying to tell me there is noway to share a file and give
> permissions to a remote user account not on my computer.
>
> -or-
>
> Create a new user account specifically for him and disable it from
> appearing
> on my log in screen.
>
> Its my Laptop and he will never be accessing my computer physically, thus
> its pointless having a whole user account and icon for him.

Since you are in a workgroup - the security model offered by Windows is one
of each machine having a local database of user accounts. There fore if you
wish to secure any resource to a specific user the only accounts the device
knows about are those locally held in its local account database. Therefore
if you want to secure a resource to a named user account you must create an
account for that user.

As to hiding the account from the login UI this is documented in Microsoft
KB article 942956
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942956

Alternatively don't use the icon based login screen and just enable the
pressing of CTRL-ALT-DELL to logon and then enter your account details.
--

Mike Brannigan

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-02-2008   #6 (permalink)
Mike Brannigan
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Re: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own username

"Smithy963" <Smithy963@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Your saying that for 2 people, with 2 computers need 4 accounts to access
> both computers at all times....
>
Yes - if you are in a workgroup and you want user level security for access
to resources local or shared on that device then you must have local
accounts on that device to secure against.
Quote:

> This is ineffecient and pointless,
This is the way it has always been for workgroup based conmputing. Of
course this goes away when in domain based secuirty models.
Quote:

> similar to your post, don't post in my
> thread aagain. thank you.
No point is getting shirty - just because you do not understand anything
about the Windows security (or have not bothered to do any research to help
yourself). The product is capable of workgroup or domain based
authentication/authorization. You are in a workgroup so the simple rules of
all accounts that you want to secure a resource on your device have to be
local accounts on that device apply. Hardly my fault - this is why
workgroup computing is inherently insecure and not really usable for
anything more then a couple to a few users and machines.
--
Mike Brannigan

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-02-2008   #7 (permalink)
Smithy963
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Re: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own user

I seem to be in a bad mood today along with sensing hostility in your
previous post I lashed out and I apologise.

Thank you for your support and advice. This is not the solution I am idealy
looking for as I have 4 friends that will access my computer and for seperate
persmissions for each person would require 16 users accounts over all 4
computers.

Shaun.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-02-2008   #8 (permalink)
Smithy963
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Re: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own user

I seem to be in a bad mood today along with sensing hostility in your
previous post I lashed out and I apologise.

Thank you for your support and advice. This is not the solution I am idealy
looking for as I have 4 friends that will access my computer and for seperate
persmissions for each person would require 16 users accounts over all 4
computers.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I can assure you I am doing my research, It is true I dont fully understand
windows security.

If I am excused of my outburst would you consider suggesting a practical
approach to my problem...

There are 4 computers.

We could be connecting in any number of different locations so a
server/domain based system seems to be out of the question.

I would prefer different shared folders and different permissions for each
user, so 1 user account and telling my friends the same account details is
also not applicable.

And if at all possible I would prefer not to have 4 different accounts on my
computer and have to change various options for each user on every machine
when needed.

Is there a solution via hacks/software development/any solution at all...
that would allow me to use a remote account to set permissions and logg in
details.
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Old 07-02-2008   #9 (permalink)
Mike Brannigan
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Re: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own user

"Smithy963" <Smithy963@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I seem to be in a bad mood today along with sensing hostility in your
> previous post I lashed out and I apologise.
>
> Thank you for your support and advice. This is not the solution I am
> idealy
> looking for as I have 4 friends that will access my computer and for
> seperate
> persmissions for each person would require 16 users accounts over all 4
> computers.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I can assure you I am doing my research, It is true I dont fully
> understand
> windows security.
>
> If I am excused of my outburst would you consider suggesting a practical
> approach to my problem...
>
> There are 4 computers.
>
> We could be connecting in any number of different locations so a
> server/domain based system seems to be out of the question.
>
> I would prefer different shared folders and different permissions for each
> user, so 1 user account and telling my friends the same account details is
> also not applicable.
>
> And if at all possible I would prefer not to have 4 different accounts on
> my
> computer and have to change various options for each user on every machine
> when needed.
>
> Is there a solution via hacks/software development/any solution at all...
> that would allow me to use a remote account to set permissions and logg in
> details.
No - the solution for unique users being given permissions to resources and
then using those unique accounts to access those on a device requires one of
two options.
Local accounts on each device - e.g. a workgroup
Centralized account management for authentication and authorization - e.g. a
domain.

So it looks like you are stuck in a workgroup with lots of local accounts to
try and manage etc.
(This is why no one really uses workgroups where they want any degree of
security)

--

Mike Brannigan

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-02-2008   #10 (permalink)
Smithy963
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Re: How to allow someone to access my computer with their own user

Thanks for your support, advice and peserverence.

I think I'll have to do as you suggest and then hide them from the welcome
screen.

Thanks again,

Shaun.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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