Vista - How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates?

10-15-2008

My Vista box shows a (at least to me) somewhat irritating behavior:

When I open Control Panel => Windows Update the dialog appearing at the
top always greets me with "Your Windows is up to date". It does so,
without even checking for new updates.
Only if I manually trigger "Check for updates" it goes off and actually
searches the server for new updates (and e.g. this morning it brought up
10 new updates available!).

Can't one tell this stupid dialog to FIRST go and check for updates and
THEN tell me whether everything's up to date or not? I might be old
fashioned, but I still expect, that a message that some system dialog
displays to me, is the truth and not some fantasy, especially when it
comes to system security! And so I find it most irritating that some
dialog tells me "everything is fine and dandy" each time (and if I would
actually believe it I might feel fine and comfortable in my false
safety) but that I always need to explicitly ignore that displayed
message and manually tell Windows Update to first do its job. Why
doesn't that dialog automatically check for available updates in the
first place?

Just in case: I have configured Windows update to "check for updates
automatically but let me decide, when to download and install them".

Michael

10-15-2008

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:40:11 +0200, "Michael Moser"
<michael-nospam.moser@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>My Vista box shows a (at least to me) somewhat irritating behavior:
>
>When I open Control Panel => Windows Update the dialog appearing at the
>top always greets me with "Your Windows is up to date". It does so,
>without even checking for new updates.

Spend just a few of your precious free moments to read a tad further
and you will see when it last checked for updates. It's usually less
than 24 hours ago.

That said... see if you can remember this: "Patch Tuesday" is the day
to expect updates. It's the second Tuesday of every month.

Don't bother checking at other times or you're gonna just get annoyed
again.

Quote:

>Only if I manually trigger "Check for updates" it goes off and actually
>searches the server for new updates (and e.g. this morning it brought up
>10 new updates available!).
>
>Can't one tell this stupid dialog to FIRST go and check for updates and
>THEN tell me whether everything's up to date or not? I might be old
>fashioned, but I still expect, that a message that some system dialog
>displays to me, is the truth and not some fantasy, especially when it
>comes to system security! And so I find it most irritating that some
>dialog tells me "everything is fine and dandy" each time (and if I would
>actually believe it I might feel fine and comfortable in my false
>safety) but that I always need to explicitly ignore that displayed
>message and manually tell Windows Update to first do its job. Why
>doesn't that dialog automatically check for available updates in the
>first place?
>
>Just in case: I have configured Windows update to "check for updates
>automatically but let me decide, when to download and install them".
>
>Michael

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10-15-2008

It probably checked when your machine was turned on, mine does, and I had
the 10 updates it had found.
It was patch day yesterday and several updates were made available which it
obviously found your machine needed when you turned on.
I have my machine set for automatic on this Vista machine and it has always
done a check showing the time round about when it gets switched on in a
morning, and it's then set to install at a certain time when I know the
machine is on and I'm not using it.
If you look in your update history you'll find when updates were installed
most days it's probably ones for Windows Defender which gets regular
updates.

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"Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> My Vista box shows a (at least to me) somewhat irritating behavior:
>
> When I open Control Panel => Windows Update the dialog appearing at the
> top always greets me with "Your Windows is up to date". It does so,
> without even checking for new updates.
> Only if I manually trigger "Check for updates" it goes off and actually
> searches the server for new updates (and e.g. this morning it brought up
> 10 new updates available!).
>
> Can't one tell this stupid dialog to FIRST go and check for updates and
> THEN tell me whether everything's up to date or not? I might be old
> fashioned, but I still expect, that a message that some system dialog
> displays to me, is the truth and not some fantasy, especially when it
> comes to system security! And so I find it most irritating that some
> dialog tells me "everything is fine and dandy" each time (and if I would
> actually believe it I might feel fine and comfortable in my false safety)
> but that I always need to explicitly ignore that displayed message and
> manually tell Windows Update to first do its job. Why doesn't that dialog
> automatically check for available updates in the first place?
>
> Just in case: I have configured Windows update to "check for updates
> automatically but let me decide, when to download and install them".
>
> Michael
>

10-15-2008

What does this have to do with the subject of this group?

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"Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> My Vista box shows a (at least to me) somewhat irritating behavior:
>
> When I open Control Panel => Windows Update the dialog appearing at the
> top always greets me with "Your Windows is up to date". It does so,
> without even checking for new updates.
> Only if I manually trigger "Check for updates" it goes off and actually
> searches the server for new updates (and e.g. this morning it brought up
> 10 new updates available!).
>
> Can't one tell this stupid dialog to FIRST go and check for updates and
> THEN tell me whether everything's up to date or not? I might be old
> fashioned, but I still expect, that a message that some system dialog
> displays to me, is the truth and not some fantasy, especially when it
> comes to system security! And so I find it most irritating that some
> dialog tells me "everything is fine and dandy" each time (and if I would
> actually believe it I might feel fine and comfortable in my false safety)
> but that I always need to explicitly ignore that displayed message and
> manually tell Windows Update to first do its job. Why doesn't that dialog
> automatically check for available updates in the first place?
>
> Just in case: I have configured Windows update to "check for updates
> automatically but let me decide, when to download and install them".
>
> Michael
>

10-15-2008

I wondered that but answered anyway <g>

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"David B." <mail@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> What does this have to do with the subject of this group?
>

10-21-2008

David B. wrote:

Quote:

> What does this have to do with the subject of this group?

Got me a better suggestion?

10-21-2008

DDW wrote:

Quote:

>...
> Spend just a few of your precious free moments to read a tad further
> and you will see when it last checked for updates. It's usually less
> than 24 hours ago.

yes - I can see that. But I would expect that the dialog would then
read: "Checking for new updates" or "Check pending..." or something of
that sort while it hasn't been able to contact the server, yet.

Right now this works such, that I boot, I get a yellow security icon in
the taskbar, I click it to see why, the dialog opens and I can read:
"Your system is up to date". ??? So what's the fuzz then? Why is this
icon then yellow?

If I weren't smarter meanwhile knowing that this dialog lies at me, I
would now close the dialog again and think everything's fine - but it
isn't!

Only in the small print you pointed to one can read that the last update
check was actually yesterday (or even earlier) and that it apparently
hasn't even tried to check again since and that I need to manually
trigger an update check even though I have set it to do that
automatically. The point I am trying to make here is: the update check
shoud not just change the icon's color but also change the label's text
appropriately!

Michael

10-21-2008

""Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@xxxxxx>" wrote

Quote:

>David B. wrote:

Quote:

>> What does this have to do with the subject of this group?

>
>Got me a better suggestion?

microsoft.public.windowsupdate

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10-15-2008	#1 (permalink)
Michael Moser n/a posts	How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates? My Vista box shows a (at least to me) somewhat irritating behavior: When I open Control Panel => Windows Update the dialog appearing at the top always greets me with "Your Windows is up to date". It does so, without even checking for new updates. Only if I manually trigger "Check for updates" it goes off and actually searches the server for new updates (and e.g. this morning it brought up 10 new updates available!). Can't one tell this stupid dialog to FIRST go and check for updates and THEN tell me whether everything's up to date or not? I might be old fashioned, but I still expect, that a message that some system dialog displays to me, is the truth and not some fantasy, especially when it comes to system security! And so I find it most irritating that some dialog tells me "everything is fine and dandy" each time (and if I would actually believe it I might feel fine and comfortable in my false safety) but that I always need to explicitly ignore that displayed message and manually tell Windows Update to first do its job. Why doesn't that dialog automatically check for available updates in the first place? Just in case: I have configured Windows update to "check for updates automatically but let me decide, when to download and install them". Michael
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10-15-2008	#2 (permalink)
DDW n/a posts	Re: How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates? On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:40:11 +0200, "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >My Vista box shows a (at least to me) somewhat irritating behavior: > >When I open Control Panel => Windows Update the dialog appearing at the >top always greets me with "Your Windows is up to date". It does so, >without even checking for new updates. Spend just a few of your precious free moments to read a tad further and you will see when it last checked for updates. It's usually less than 24 hours ago. That said... see if you can remember this: "Patch Tuesday" is the day to expect updates. It's the second Tuesday of every month. Don't bother checking at other times or you're gonna just get annoyed again. Quote: >Only if I manually trigger "Check for updates" it goes off and actually >searches the server for new updates (and e.g. this morning it brought up >10 new updates available!). > >Can't one tell this stupid dialog to FIRST go and check for updates and >THEN tell me whether everything's up to date or not? I might be old >fashioned, but I still expect, that a message that some system dialog >displays to me, is the truth and not some fantasy, especially when it >comes to system security! And so I find it most irritating that some >dialog tells me "everything is fine and dandy" each time (and if I would >actually believe it I might feel fine and comfortable in my false >safety) but that I always need to explicitly ignore that displayed >message and manually tell Windows Update to first do its job. Why >doesn't that dialog automatically check for available updates in the >first place? > >Just in case: I have configured Windows update to "check for updates >automatically but let me decide, when to download and install them". > >Michael DDW -- Reply via this group No email please
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10-15-2008	#3 (permalink)
Joan Archer n/a posts	Re: How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates? It probably checked when your machine was turned on, mine does, and I had the 10 updates it had found. It was patch day yesterday and several updates were made available which it obviously found your machine needed when you turned on. I have my machine set for automatic on this Vista machine and it has always done a check showing the time round about when it gets switched on in a morning, and it's then set to install at a certain time when I know the machine is on and I'm not using it. If you look in your update history you'll find when updates were installed most days it's probably ones for Windows Defender which gets regular updates. -- Joan Archer http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher http://lachsoft.com/photogallery "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#mQnkGqLJHA.4452@xxxxxx Quote: > My Vista box shows a (at least to me) somewhat irritating behavior: > > When I open Control Panel => Windows Update the dialog appearing at the > top always greets me with "Your Windows is up to date". It does so, > without even checking for new updates. > Only if I manually trigger "Check for updates" it goes off and actually > searches the server for new updates (and e.g. this morning it brought up > 10 new updates available!). > > Can't one tell this stupid dialog to FIRST go and check for updates and > THEN tell me whether everything's up to date or not? I might be old > fashioned, but I still expect, that a message that some system dialog > displays to me, is the truth and not some fantasy, especially when it > comes to system security! And so I find it most irritating that some > dialog tells me "everything is fine and dandy" each time (and if I would > actually believe it I might feel fine and comfortable in my false safety) > but that I always need to explicitly ignore that displayed message and > manually tell Windows Update to first do its job. Why doesn't that dialog > automatically check for available updates in the first place? > > Just in case: I have configured Windows update to "check for updates > automatically but let me decide, when to download and install them". > > Michael >
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10-15-2008	#4 (permalink)
David B. n/a posts	Re: How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates? What does this have to do with the subject of this group? -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23mQnkGqLJHA.4452@xxxxxx Quote: > My Vista box shows a (at least to me) somewhat irritating behavior: > > When I open Control Panel => Windows Update the dialog appearing at the > top always greets me with "Your Windows is up to date". It does so, > without even checking for new updates. > Only if I manually trigger "Check for updates" it goes off and actually > searches the server for new updates (and e.g. this morning it brought up > 10 new updates available!). > > Can't one tell this stupid dialog to FIRST go and check for updates and > THEN tell me whether everything's up to date or not? I might be old > fashioned, but I still expect, that a message that some system dialog > displays to me, is the truth and not some fantasy, especially when it > comes to system security! And so I find it most irritating that some > dialog tells me "everything is fine and dandy" each time (and if I would > actually believe it I might feel fine and comfortable in my false safety) > but that I always need to explicitly ignore that displayed message and > manually tell Windows Update to first do its job. Why doesn't that dialog > automatically check for available updates in the first place? > > Just in case: I have configured Windows update to "check for updates > automatically but let me decide, when to download and install them". > > Michael >
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10-15-2008	#5 (permalink)
Joan Archer n/a posts	Re: How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates? I wondered that but answered anyway <g> -- Joan Archer http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher http://lachsoft.com/photogallery "David B." <mail@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:emYjfQvLJHA.5660@xxxxxx Quote: > What does this have to do with the subject of this group? >
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10-21-2008	#6 (permalink)
Michael Moser n/a posts	Re: How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates? David B. wrote: Quote: > What does this have to do with the subject of this group? Got me a better suggestion?
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10-21-2008	#7 (permalink)
Michael Moser n/a posts	Re: How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates? DDW wrote: Quote: >... > Spend just a few of your precious free moments to read a tad further > and you will see when it last checked for updates. It's usually less > than 24 hours ago. yes - I can see that. But I would expect that the dialog would then read: "Checking for new updates" or "Check pending..." or something of that sort while it hasn't been able to contact the server, yet. Right now this works such, that I boot, I get a yellow security icon in the taskbar, I click it to see why, the dialog opens and I can read: "Your system is up to date". ??? So what's the fuzz then? Why is this icon then yellow? If I weren't smarter meanwhile knowing that this dialog lies at me, I would now close the dialog again and think everything's fine - but it isn't! Only in the small print you pointed to one can read that the last update check was actually yesterday (or even earlier) and that it apparently hasn't even tried to check again since and that I need to manually trigger an update check even though I have set it to do that automatically. The point I am trying to make here is: the update check shoud not just change the icon's color but also change the label's text appropriately! Michael
My System Specs

10-21-2008	#8 (permalink)
DDW n/a posts	Re: How to tell vista to automatically detect available updates? ""Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@xxxxxx>" wrote Quote: >David B. wrote: Quote: >> What does this have to do with the subject of this group? > >Got me a better suggestion? microsoft.public.windowsupdate DDW -- Reply via this group No email please
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