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    fvuong Guest

    *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even after resetting


    Hi There Experts and Gurus,

    I've been doing Windows Tech Support for 5 years and I have never ran
    into a problem like this. Hope some one can help:

    Background: I know how to reset (to blank) my Windows Password using
    third party software, password reset disc. I AM NOT ASKING for help in
    logging into windows because I can always reset the password to blank
    and get in.

    So here's the "symptoms", hope some body can determine the "problem"
    and provide a "cure" not merely a temporary "treatment.

    1. User (admin) account has password. Password has NOT been changed.
    Or password has JUST been changed and we KNOW what it is. Suddenly,
    after logging out or restarting computer, we cannot log in again. You
    get the usual Password incorrect message. Vista Home Premium even shows
    the password hint. Yet it will not take the "correct" password.

    2. In order to login, I have to "reset" the password, using various
    methods that are floating around on the internet. The process works
    ONLY by "blanking" the password. So I can log into Windows...don't give
    me solution on how to log into windows, please.

    3. Once logged into windows, I go about creating a password. I log
    out, then try to log back in with that password....and guest what
    "Windows does not recognize it". Neither old or new password works.

    3a. So I go thru the password reset methods again, blanking it, and I
    am able to log in using the blank pw.

    3b. I go and create NEW USER. If the NEW USER has BLANK password, I
    can login with no problem. But if I set a password for the new user
    account or any account, windows will not recognize the password again.

    So does any one see the picture here? I don't have problem getting
    into my windows because I know how to reset the password by blanking
    it.

    My problem is I DO WANT TO SECURE IT WITH A PASSWORD. But by putting
    on a password, Windows does not recognize the password afterward to
    allow access. This problem happens consistently every time a password
    is created.

    So the Solution I am looking for is a FIX, a one-time CURE, to the
    password problem, so that I do not have to do the password reset every
    single time.

    In other word, SECURITY is an important issue to me, so having a
    "blank" password is NOT and OPTION.

    Why does the password not get recognized? Does it get corrupted some
    how? What are the fixes?

    Too many experts out there are focusing on the "temporary treatment" by
    telling people how to hack and crack and reset their password, but when
    the problem reoccurs repeated, no one seems to have an answer to a
    reliable fix.

    My greatest respect to all the gurus out there and all the people who
    are offering advices and answers. Please consider this a "challenge"
    for the experts!


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  3. #2


    ewastudent Guest

    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even after resetting

    there is only one solution to this, buy a mac
    "fvuong" <fvuong.3k9wbc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:fvuong.3k9wbc@xxxxxx

    >
    > Hi There Experts and Gurus,
    >
    > I've been doing Windows Tech Support for 5 years and I have never ran
    > into a problem like this. Hope some one can help:
    >
    > Background: I know how to reset (to blank) my Windows Password using
    > third party software, password reset disc. I AM NOT ASKING for help in
    > logging into windows because I can always reset the password to blank
    > and get in.
    >
    > So here's the "symptoms", hope some body can determine the "problem"
    > and provide a "cure" not merely a temporary "treatment.
    >
    > 1. User (admin) account has password. Password has NOT been changed.
    > Or password has JUST been changed and we KNOW what it is. Suddenly,
    > after logging out or restarting computer, we cannot log in again. You
    > get the usual Password incorrect message. Vista Home Premium even shows
    > the password hint. Yet it will not take the "correct" password.
    >
    > 2. In order to login, I have to "reset" the password, using various
    > methods that are floating around on the internet. The process works
    > ONLY by "blanking" the password. So I can log into Windows...don't give
    > me solution on how to log into windows, please.
    >
    > 3. Once logged into windows, I go about creating a password. I log
    > out, then try to log back in with that password....and guest what
    > "Windows does not recognize it". Neither old or new password works.
    >
    > 3a. So I go thru the password reset methods again, blanking it, and I
    > am able to log in using the blank pw.
    >
    > 3b. I go and create NEW USER. If the NEW USER has BLANK password, I
    > can login with no problem. But if I set a password for the new user
    > account or any account, windows will not recognize the password again.
    >
    > So does any one see the picture here? I don't have problem getting
    > into my windows because I know how to reset the password by blanking
    > it.
    >
    > My problem is I DO WANT TO SECURE IT WITH A PASSWORD. But by putting
    > on a password, Windows does not recognize the password afterward to
    > allow access. This problem happens consistently every time a password
    > is created.
    >
    > So the Solution I am looking for is a FIX, a one-time CURE, to the
    > password problem, so that I do not have to do the password reset every
    > single time.
    >
    > In other word, SECURITY is an important issue to me, so having a
    > "blank" password is NOT and OPTION.
    >
    > Why does the password not get recognized? Does it get corrupted some
    > how? What are the fixes?
    >
    > Too many experts out there are focusing on the "temporary treatment" by
    > telling people how to hack and crack and reset their password, but when
    > the problem reoccurs repeated, no one seems to have an answer to a
    > reliable fix.
    >
    > My greatest respect to all the gurus out there and all the people who
    > are offering advices and answers. Please consider this a "challenge"
    > for the experts!
    >
    >
    > --
    > fvuong
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > fvuong's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/fvuong.htm
    > View this thread:
    > http://forums.techarena.in/vista-adm...on/1086115.htm
    >
    > http://forums.techarena.in
    >

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    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even after resetting

    Hello,

    The first thing I would try is to click the blue accessibility button on the
    welcome screen and select type without the keyboard. Then, use the onscreen
    keyboard to type the password. The keyboard format of the welcome may have
    been changed to a non-QWERTY keyboard.

    - JB

    "fvuong" <fvuong.3k9wbc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:fvuong.3k9wbc@xxxxxx

    >
    > Hi There Experts and Gurus,
    >
    > I've been doing Windows Tech Support for 5 years and I have never ran
    > into a problem like this. Hope some one can help:
    >
    > Background: I know how to reset (to blank) my Windows Password using
    > third party software, password reset disc. I AM NOT ASKING for help in
    > logging into windows because I can always reset the password to blank
    > and get in.
    >
    > So here's the "symptoms", hope some body can determine the "problem"
    > and provide a "cure" not merely a temporary "treatment.
    >
    > 1. User (admin) account has password. Password has NOT been changed.
    > Or password has JUST been changed and we KNOW what it is. Suddenly,
    > after logging out or restarting computer, we cannot log in again. You
    > get the usual Password incorrect message. Vista Home Premium even shows
    > the password hint. Yet it will not take the "correct" password.
    >
    > 2. In order to login, I have to "reset" the password, using various
    > methods that are floating around on the internet. The process works
    > ONLY by "blanking" the password. So I can log into Windows...don't give
    > me solution on how to log into windows, please.
    >
    > 3. Once logged into windows, I go about creating a password. I log
    > out, then try to log back in with that password....and guest what
    > "Windows does not recognize it". Neither old or new password works.
    >
    > 3a. So I go thru the password reset methods again, blanking it, and I
    > am able to log in using the blank pw.
    >
    > 3b. I go and create NEW USER. If the NEW USER has BLANK password, I
    > can login with no problem. But if I set a password for the new user
    > account or any account, windows will not recognize the password again.
    >
    > So does any one see the picture here? I don't have problem getting
    > into my windows because I know how to reset the password by blanking
    > it.
    >
    > My problem is I DO WANT TO SECURE IT WITH A PASSWORD. But by putting
    > on a password, Windows does not recognize the password afterward to
    > allow access. This problem happens consistently every time a password
    > is created.
    >
    > So the Solution I am looking for is a FIX, a one-time CURE, to the
    > password problem, so that I do not have to do the password reset every
    > single time.
    >
    > In other word, SECURITY is an important issue to me, so having a
    > "blank" password is NOT and OPTION.
    >
    > Why does the password not get recognized? Does it get corrupted some
    > how? What are the fixes?
    >
    > Too many experts out there are focusing on the "temporary treatment" by
    > telling people how to hack and crack and reset their password, but when
    > the problem reoccurs repeated, no one seems to have an answer to a
    > reliable fix.
    >
    > My greatest respect to all the gurus out there and all the people who
    > are offering advices and answers. Please consider this a "challenge"
    > for the experts!
    >
    >
    > --
    > fvuong
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > fvuong's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/fvuong.htm
    > View this thread:
    > http://forums.techarena.in/vista-adm...on/1086115.htm
    >
    > http://forums.techarena.in
    >

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  5. #4


    GTS Guest

    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even after resetting

    I've seen repeated password problems a few times (though not quite as
    consistent as you report) when bad sectors were impacting the registry. You
    might run chkdsk /r or the manufacturers drive diagnostic to check for, or
    at least eliminate, this possibility.
    --

    "fvuong" <fvuong.3k9wbc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:fvuong.3k9wbc@xxxxxx

    >
    > Hi There Experts and Gurus,
    >
    > I've been doing Windows Tech Support for 5 years and I have never ran
    > into a problem like this. Hope some one can help:
    >
    > Background: I know how to reset (to blank) my Windows Password using
    > third party software, password reset disc. I AM NOT ASKING for help in
    > logging into windows because I can always reset the password to blank
    > and get in.
    >
    > So here's the "symptoms", hope some body can determine the "problem"
    > and provide a "cure" not merely a temporary "treatment.
    >
    > 1. User (admin) account has password. Password has NOT been changed.
    > Or password has JUST been changed and we KNOW what it is. Suddenly,
    > after logging out or restarting computer, we cannot log in again. You
    > get the usual Password incorrect message. Vista Home Premium even shows
    > the password hint. Yet it will not take the "correct" password.
    >
    > 2. In order to login, I have to "reset" the password, using various
    > methods that are floating around on the internet. The process works
    > ONLY by "blanking" the password. So I can log into Windows...don't give
    > me solution on how to log into windows, please.
    >
    > 3. Once logged into windows, I go about creating a password. I log
    > out, then try to log back in with that password....and guest what
    > "Windows does not recognize it". Neither old or new password works.
    >
    > 3a. So I go thru the password reset methods again, blanking it, and I
    > am able to log in using the blank pw.
    >
    > 3b. I go and create NEW USER. If the NEW USER has BLANK password, I
    > can login with no problem. But if I set a password for the new user
    > account or any account, windows will not recognize the password again.
    >
    > So does any one see the picture here? I don't have problem getting
    > into my windows because I know how to reset the password by blanking
    > it.
    >
    > My problem is I DO WANT TO SECURE IT WITH A PASSWORD. But by putting
    > on a password, Windows does not recognize the password afterward to
    > allow access. This problem happens consistently every time a password
    > is created.
    >
    > So the Solution I am looking for is a FIX, a one-time CURE, to the
    > password problem, so that I do not have to do the password reset every
    > single time.
    >
    > In other word, SECURITY is an important issue to me, so having a
    > "blank" password is NOT and OPTION.
    >
    > Why does the password not get recognized? Does it get corrupted some
    > how? What are the fixes?
    >
    > Too many experts out there are focusing on the "temporary treatment" by
    > telling people how to hack and crack and reset their password, but when
    > the problem reoccurs repeated, no one seems to have an answer to a
    > reliable fix.
    >
    > My greatest respect to all the gurus out there and all the people who
    > are offering advices and answers. Please consider this a "challenge"
    > for the experts!
    >
    >
    > --
    > fvuong
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > fvuong's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/fvuong.htm
    > View this thread:
    > http://forums.techarena.in/vista-adm...on/1086115.htm
    >
    > http://forums.techarena.in
    >

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    rastus Guest

    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even after resetting

    Not an expert by any means but I know what you are talking about, have you
    experienced any other symptoms like the system wont access updates?

    If so there could be a problem with missing files in the registry or missing
    file names which apparently tells Vista where to look for stuff,
    it would appear to me that some files we download cause vista to loose its
    registry configuration.

    So just possibly there is no file there to tell Vista where to look for the
    password, suggest get one machine by its self reload vista and see if that
    machine has the same problem, having similar problems with vista and when
    you look around so are a lot of other users, are you able to get automatic
    updates?

    Regards
    Rastus



    "fvuong" <fvuong.3k9wbc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:fvuong.3k9wbc@xxxxxx

    >
    > Hi There Experts and Gurus,
    >
    > I've been doing Windows Tech Support for 5 years and I have never ran
    > into a problem like this. Hope some one can help:
    >
    > Background: I know how to reset (to blank) my Windows Password using
    > third party software, password reset disc. I AM NOT ASKING for help in
    > logging into windows because I can always reset the password to blank
    > and get in.
    >
    > So here's the "symptoms", hope some body can determine the "problem"
    > and provide a "cure" not merely a temporary "treatment.
    >
    > 1. User (admin) account has password. Password has NOT been changed.
    > Or password has JUST been changed and we KNOW what it is. Suddenly,
    > after logging out or restarting computer, we cannot log in again. You
    > get the usual Password incorrect message. Vista Home Premium even shows
    > the password hint. Yet it will not take the "correct" password.
    >
    > 2. In order to login, I have to "reset" the password, using various
    > methods that are floating around on the internet. The process works
    > ONLY by "blanking" the password. So I can log into Windows...don't give
    > me solution on how to log into windows, please.
    >
    > 3. Once logged into windows, I go about creating a password. I log
    > out, then try to log back in with that password....and guest what
    > "Windows does not recognize it". Neither old or new password works.
    >
    > 3a. So I go thru the password reset methods again, blanking it, and I
    > am able to log in using the blank pw.
    >
    > 3b. I go and create NEW USER. If the NEW USER has BLANK password, I
    > can login with no problem. But if I set a password for the new user
    > account or any account, windows will not recognize the password again.
    >
    > So does any one see the picture here? I don't have problem getting
    > into my windows because I know how to reset the password by blanking
    > it.
    >
    > My problem is I DO WANT TO SECURE IT WITH A PASSWORD. But by putting
    > on a password, Windows does not recognize the password afterward to
    > allow access. This problem happens consistently every time a password
    > is created.
    >
    > So the Solution I am looking for is a FIX, a one-time CURE, to the
    > password problem, so that I do not have to do the password reset every
    > single time.
    >
    > In other word, SECURITY is an important issue to me, so having a
    > "blank" password is NOT and OPTION.
    >
    > Why does the password not get recognized? Does it get corrupted some
    > how? What are the fixes?
    >
    > Too many experts out there are focusing on the "temporary treatment" by
    > telling people how to hack and crack and reset their password, but when
    > the problem reoccurs repeated, no one seems to have an answer to a
    > reliable fix.
    >
    > My greatest respect to all the gurus out there and all the people who
    > are offering advices and answers. Please consider this a "challenge"
    > for the experts!
    >
    >
    > --
    > fvuong
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > fvuong's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/fvuong.htm
    > View this thread:
    > http://forums.techarena.in/vista-adm...on/1086115.htm
    >
    > http://forums.techarena.in
    >

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    slacka_vt Guest

    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even after resetting


    Same exact problem here. This was fresh install of Vista and was not
    able to log on with correct password. I gave Vista the benefit of the
    doubt and reinstalled the OS. Still would not take the password I
    created. I work in an IT department so I have installed hundreds upon
    hundreds of O/S's and have never once seen anything like this !!


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    slacka_vt Guest

    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even after resetting


    From a tip I read on the other thread regarding this matter, I
    reinstalled Vista onto a brand new Hard Drive and it fixed the problem.
    It seems a bad Hard Drive was the culprit after all !! How odd.


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    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even

    I have a similar problem, I renamed the administrator to my name. I then setup 2 other accounts for my wife and kids. I password protected My account and My wifes. Now when I boot I get "incorrect name or password" message. I can select ok, but when I do I have the option to enter password or select other user. When I select other user I see 4 icons available 2 are the same name(mine) and icon. I can choose either icon and input my password. I log in and then can logout and switch users. When I switch users there are only 3 user accounts now. If I disable passwords on all accounts it will auto login to my account without hitting selection screen. I would opt for no password, but it doesn't help, I don't want my wife and kids to have to log out of my acccount everytime they boot the system, to get to their account. Does this make sense?

    Anyone ever had this problem?
    It's not life or death just annoying!

    Help!!!

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  10. #9
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    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even

    Quote Originally Posted by Munchmouth View Post
    I have a similar problem, I renamed the administrator to my name. I then setup 2 other accounts for my wife and kids. I password protected My account and My wifes. Now when I boot I get "incorrect name or password" message. I can select ok, but when I do I have the option to enter password or select other user. When I select other user I see 4 icons available 2 are the same name(mine) and icon. I can choose either icon and input my password. I log in and then can logout and switch users. When I switch users there are only 3 user accounts now. If I disable passwords on all accounts it will auto login to my account without hitting selection screen. I would opt for no password, but it doesn't help, I don't want my wife and kids to have to log out of my acccount everytime they boot the system, to get to their account. Does this make sense?

    Anyone ever had this problem?
    It's not life or death just annoying!

    Help!!!
    Hello Munchmouth,

    Check to see if you have automatic log on turned on. If you do, then just turn it off.

    Logon Automatically

    Hope this helps,
    Shawn

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  11. #10
    Munchmouth's Avatar

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    Re: *!NOT your usual Vista Password Problem - Incorrect Password even every time even

    I will try this and thanks!

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