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Administrator vs Administrator

  1. #1


    Dan Anderson Guest

    Administrator vs Administrator

    OK....In doing multiple CLEAN installs of Vista (RC1 & RC2) I have
    discovered TWO separate ways to enable and use the built-in Administrator
    account. What I want to know is what is the difference between these, and
    is one of them better to use than the other? Of the two ways, one is VERY
    quick and simple and the other is a bit more complex. Here they are:

    THE COMPLEX WAY:

    Click Start/All Programs/Accessories
    Right-Click Command Prompt and choose Run as Administrator
    Click Allow on the UAC prompt
    In the Command window, type regedit and press enter
    Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
    Add a new key at that level called SpecialAccounts
    Add a sub-key in SpecialAccounts and call it UserList
    Create a 32-bit DWORD value in UserList and call it Administrator and set
    the value to 1
    X out of the registry editor
    In the command prompt window, type WITHOUT the quotes: "net user
    Administrator /Active:yes" and press enter
    Log Off
    When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.


    THE SIMPLE WAY:

    Click Start and right-click Computer and choose Manage
    Allow the UAC prompt
    Click the little arrow to the left of Local Users and Groups to expand
    Click Users
    In the left-hand pane, double-click Administrator and UN-check the Account
    is Disabled box, click Apply and OK
    X out of the Computer Management and Log Off
    When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.


    CONSIDERATIONS:

    When enabling the Administrator account using the COMPLEX method, the
    Account is Disabled box that is referred to in the SIMPLE method gets
    unchecked automatically.

    When enabling the Administrator account using the SIMPLE method, the
    registry modifications that are referred to in the COMPLEX method do NOT get
    automatically created, yet the Administrator account is still enabled.

    So can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between these two methods
    and which one, if any, is the preferred way and why?


    --
    Dan~~




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  2. #2


    Jerry P Guest

    Re: Administrator vs Administrator

    I did mine what you call the complex way. Its very simple....

    "Dan Anderson" <nikkinik@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:7DB8219D-7BFD-4CBF-BB15-080F45EEDBD6@microsoft.com...
    > OK....In doing multiple CLEAN installs of Vista (RC1 & RC2) I have
    > discovered TWO separate ways to enable and use the built-in Administrator
    > account. What I want to know is what is the difference between these, and
    > is one of them better to use than the other? Of the two ways, one is VERY
    > quick and simple and the other is a bit more complex. Here they are:
    >
    > THE COMPLEX WAY:
    >
    > Click Start/All Programs/Accessories
    > Right-Click Command Prompt and choose Run as Administrator
    > Click Allow on the UAC prompt
    > In the Command window, type regedit and press enter
    > Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
    > Add a new key at that level called SpecialAccounts
    > Add a sub-key in SpecialAccounts and call it UserList
    > Create a 32-bit DWORD value in UserList and call it Administrator and set
    > the value to 1
    > X out of the registry editor
    > In the command prompt window, type WITHOUT the quotes: "net user
    > Administrator /Active:yes" and press enter
    > Log Off
    > When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >
    >
    > THE SIMPLE WAY:
    >
    > Click Start and right-click Computer and choose Manage
    > Allow the UAC prompt
    > Click the little arrow to the left of Local Users and Groups to expand
    > Click Users
    > In the left-hand pane, double-click Administrator and UN-check the Account
    > is Disabled box, click Apply and OK
    > X out of the Computer Management and Log Off
    > When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >
    >
    > CONSIDERATIONS:
    >
    > When enabling the Administrator account using the COMPLEX method, the
    > Account is Disabled box that is referred to in the SIMPLE method gets
    > unchecked automatically.
    >
    > When enabling the Administrator account using the SIMPLE method, the
    > registry modifications that are referred to in the COMPLEX method do NOT
    > get automatically created, yet the Administrator account is still enabled.
    >
    > So can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between these two methods
    > and which one, if any, is the preferred way and why?
    >
    >
    > --
    > Dan~~



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  3. #3


    Marty Felker Guest

    Re: Administrator vs Administrator

    Jerry:

    Amazing! Where do get get this info. If you figured it outself
    yoursel -kudos.

    Marty F
    "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:A093303B-2B45-4DF3-A2AA-61A3AE510A9D@microsoft.com...
    >I did mine what you call the complex way. Its very simple....
    >
    > "Dan Anderson" <nikkinik@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:7DB8219D-7BFD-4CBF-BB15-080F45EEDBD6@microsoft.com...
    >> OK....In doing multiple CLEAN installs of Vista (RC1 & RC2) I have
    >> discovered TWO separate ways to enable and use the built-in Administrator
    >> account. What I want to know is what is the difference between these,
    >> and is one of them better to use than the other? Of the two ways, one is
    >> VERY quick and simple and the other is a bit more complex. Here they
    >> are:
    >>
    >> THE COMPLEX WAY:
    >>
    >> Click Start/All Programs/Accessories
    >> Right-Click Command Prompt and choose Run as Administrator
    >> Click Allow on the UAC prompt
    >> In the Command window, type regedit and press enter
    >> Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
    >> Add a new key at that level called SpecialAccounts
    >> Add a sub-key in SpecialAccounts and call it UserList
    >> Create a 32-bit DWORD value in UserList and call it Administrator and set
    >> the value to 1
    >> X out of the registry editor
    >> In the command prompt window, type WITHOUT the quotes: "net user
    >> Administrator /Active:yes" and press enter
    >> Log Off
    >> When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >>
    >>
    >> THE SIMPLE WAY:
    >>
    >> Click Start and right-click Computer and choose Manage
    >> Allow the UAC prompt
    >> Click the little arrow to the left of Local Users and Groups to expand
    >> Click Users
    >> In the left-hand pane, double-click Administrator and UN-check the
    >> Account is Disabled box, click Apply and OK
    >> X out of the Computer Management and Log Off
    >> When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >>
    >>
    >> CONSIDERATIONS:
    >>
    >> When enabling the Administrator account using the COMPLEX method, the
    >> Account is Disabled box that is referred to in the SIMPLE method gets
    >> unchecked automatically.
    >>
    >> When enabling the Administrator account using the SIMPLE method, the
    >> registry modifications that are referred to in the COMPLEX method do NOT
    >> get automatically created, yet the Administrator account is still
    >> enabled.
    >>
    >> So can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between these two methods
    >> and which one, if any, is the preferred way and why?
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Dan~~

    >



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  4. #4


    kreed Guest

    Re: Administrator vs Administrator


    "Marty Felker" <martinfelker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:efHLRVy9GHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Jerry:
    >
    > Amazing! Where do get get this info. If you figured it outself
    > yoursel -kudos.
    >
    > Marty F
    > "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:A093303B-2B45-4DF3-A2AA-61A3AE510A9D@microsoft.com...
    >>I did mine what you call the complex way. Its very simple....
    >>
    >> "Dan Anderson" <nikkinik@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
    >> news:7DB8219D-7BFD-4CBF-BB15-080F45EEDBD6@microsoft.com...
    >>> OK....In doing multiple CLEAN installs of Vista (RC1 & RC2) I have
    >>> discovered TWO separate ways to enable and use the built-in
    >>> Administrator account. What I want to know is what is the difference
    >>> between these, and is one of them better to use than the other? Of the
    >>> two ways, one is VERY quick and simple and the other is a bit more
    >>> complex. Here they are:
    >>>
    >>> THE COMPLEX WAY:
    >>>
    >>> Click Start/All Programs/Accessories
    >>> Right-Click Command Prompt and choose Run as Administrator
    >>> Click Allow on the UAC prompt
    >>> In the Command window, type regedit and press enter
    >>> Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
    >>> Add a new key at that level called SpecialAccounts
    >>> Add a sub-key in SpecialAccounts and call it UserList
    >>> Create a 32-bit DWORD value in UserList and call it Administrator and
    >>> set the value to 1
    >>> X out of the registry editor
    >>> In the command prompt window, type WITHOUT the quotes: "net user
    >>> Administrator /Active:yes" and press enter
    >>> Log Off
    >>> When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> THE SIMPLE WAY:
    >>>
    >>> Click Start and right-click Computer and choose Manage
    >>> Allow the UAC prompt
    >>> Click the little arrow to the left of Local Users and Groups to expand
    >>> Click Users
    >>> In the left-hand pane, double-click Administrator and UN-check the
    >>> Account is Disabled box, click Apply and OK
    >>> X out of the Computer Management and Log Off
    >>> When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> CONSIDERATIONS:
    >>>
    >>> When enabling the Administrator account using the COMPLEX method, the
    >>> Account is Disabled box that is referred to in the SIMPLE method gets
    >>> unchecked automatically.
    >>>
    >>> When enabling the Administrator account using the SIMPLE method, the
    >>> registry modifications that are referred to in the COMPLEX method do NOT
    >>> get automatically created, yet the Administrator account is still
    >>> enabled.
    >>>
    >>> So can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between these two
    >>> methods and which one, if any, is the preferred way and why?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Dan~~

    >>

    >

    Why would you want to do this?
    K



      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    Jerry P Guest

    Re: Administrator vs Administrator

    Just read the post here, and you might learn.....kudos........

    "kreed" <NOTkreed22a@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
    news:186dnW0727cxF6PYRVnygw@bt.com...
    >
    > "Marty Felker" <martinfelker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:efHLRVy9GHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> Jerry:
    >>
    >> Amazing! Where do get get this info. If you figured it outself
    >> yoursel -kudos.
    >>
    >> Marty F
    >> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >> news:A093303B-2B45-4DF3-A2AA-61A3AE510A9D@microsoft.com...
    >>>I did mine what you call the complex way. Its very simple....
    >>>
    >>> "Dan Anderson" <nikkinik@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:7DB8219D-7BFD-4CBF-BB15-080F45EEDBD6@microsoft.com...
    >>>> OK....In doing multiple CLEAN installs of Vista (RC1 & RC2) I have
    >>>> discovered TWO separate ways to enable and use the built-in
    >>>> Administrator account. What I want to know is what is the difference
    >>>> between these, and is one of them better to use than the other? Of the
    >>>> two ways, one is VERY quick and simple and the other is a bit more
    >>>> complex. Here they are:
    >>>>
    >>>> THE COMPLEX WAY:
    >>>>
    >>>> Click Start/All Programs/Accessories
    >>>> Right-Click Command Prompt and choose Run as Administrator
    >>>> Click Allow on the UAC prompt
    >>>> In the Command window, type regedit and press enter
    >>>> Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
    >>>> Add a new key at that level called SpecialAccounts
    >>>> Add a sub-key in SpecialAccounts and call it UserList
    >>>> Create a 32-bit DWORD value in UserList and call it Administrator and
    >>>> set the value to 1
    >>>> X out of the registry editor
    >>>> In the command prompt window, type WITHOUT the quotes: "net user
    >>>> Administrator /Active:yes" and press enter
    >>>> Log Off
    >>>> When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> THE SIMPLE WAY:
    >>>>
    >>>> Click Start and right-click Computer and choose Manage
    >>>> Allow the UAC prompt
    >>>> Click the little arrow to the left of Local Users and Groups to expand
    >>>> Click Users
    >>>> In the left-hand pane, double-click Administrator and UN-check the
    >>>> Account is Disabled box, click Apply and OK
    >>>> X out of the Computer Management and Log Off
    >>>> When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> CONSIDERATIONS:
    >>>>
    >>>> When enabling the Administrator account using the COMPLEX method, the
    >>>> Account is Disabled box that is referred to in the SIMPLE method gets
    >>>> unchecked automatically.
    >>>>
    >>>> When enabling the Administrator account using the SIMPLE method, the
    >>>> registry modifications that are referred to in the COMPLEX method do
    >>>> NOT get automatically created, yet the Administrator account is still
    >>>> enabled.
    >>>>
    >>>> So can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between these two
    >>>> methods and which one, if any, is the preferred way and why?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Dan~~
    >>>

    >>

    > Why would you want to do this?
    > K
    >
    >



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  6. #6


    kreed Guest

    Re: Administrator vs Administrator


    "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:97B1E36E-9E2D-4EFF-9E0E-E3AF12F80FDE@microsoft.com...
    > Just read the post here, and you might learn.....kudos........
    >
    > "kreed" <NOTkreed22a@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
    > news:186dnW0727cxF6PYRVnygw@bt.com...
    >>
    >> "Marty Felker" <martinfelker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:efHLRVy9GHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>> Jerry:
    >>>
    >>> Amazing! Where do get get this info. If you figured it outself
    >>> yoursel -kudos.
    >>>
    >>> Marty F
    >>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:A093303B-2B45-4DF3-A2AA-61A3AE510A9D@microsoft.com...
    >>>>I did mine what you call the complex way. Its very simple....
    >>>>
    >>>> "Dan Anderson" <nikkinik@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:7DB8219D-7BFD-4CBF-BB15-080F45EEDBD6@microsoft.com...
    >>>>> OK....In doing multiple CLEAN installs of Vista (RC1 & RC2) I have
    >>>>> discovered TWO separate ways to enable and use the built-in
    >>>>> Administrator account. What I want to know is what is the difference
    >>>>> between these, and is one of them better to use than the other? Of
    >>>>> the two ways, one is VERY quick and simple and the other is a bit more
    >>>>> complex. Here they are:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> THE COMPLEX WAY:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Click Start/All Programs/Accessories
    >>>>> Right-Click Command Prompt and choose Run as Administrator
    >>>>> Click Allow on the UAC prompt
    >>>>> In the Command window, type regedit and press enter
    >>>>> Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
    >>>>> Add a new key at that level called SpecialAccounts
    >>>>> Add a sub-key in SpecialAccounts and call it UserList
    >>>>> Create a 32-bit DWORD value in UserList and call it Administrator and
    >>>>> set the value to 1
    >>>>> X out of the registry editor
    >>>>> In the command prompt window, type WITHOUT the quotes: "net user
    >>>>> Administrator /Active:yes" and press enter
    >>>>> Log Off
    >>>>> When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> THE SIMPLE WAY:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Click Start and right-click Computer and choose Manage
    >>>>> Allow the UAC prompt
    >>>>> Click the little arrow to the left of Local Users and Groups to expand
    >>>>> Click Users
    >>>>> In the left-hand pane, double-click Administrator and UN-check the
    >>>>> Account is Disabled box, click Apply and OK
    >>>>> X out of the Computer Management and Log Off
    >>>>> When you log back on, the Administrator account will be there.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> CONSIDERATIONS:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> When enabling the Administrator account using the COMPLEX method, the
    >>>>> Account is Disabled box that is referred to in the SIMPLE method gets
    >>>>> unchecked automatically.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> When enabling the Administrator account using the SIMPLE method, the
    >>>>> registry modifications that are referred to in the COMPLEX method do
    >>>>> NOT get automatically created, yet the Administrator account is still
    >>>>> enabled.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> So can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between these two
    >>>>> methods and which one, if any, is the preferred way and why?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> Dan~~
    >>>>
    >>>

    >> Why would you want to do this?
    >> K
    >>
    >>

    >

    Still doesn't tell me why. None of it seems particularly COMPLEX or CLEVER.
    Do you not think it might be setup this way for a reason?
    K



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