Vista - Not a Domain User yet can access domain?

I installed Vista Enterprise. I set myself up as a member of the Domain as I
always have under XP. It joined fine. However the login name remained as
LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME not DOMAIN\USERNAME. I figured this was a
characteristic of Vista. I used the machine with no problems for two weeks.
One day when I booted my machine, the profile had changed to DOMAIN\USERNAME
and everything that had been setup in the profile, naturally, was gone.

I reinstalled. Went through the same procedure of joining the domain. It
still shows LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME. I am trying to install CRM for
Outlook. The installation is telling me I am "Not a Domain User." It looks
like I am headed down the same path - one day shortly the machine will boot
as DOMAIN\USERNAME.

Clearly I'm not doing something correctly either with the account priviliges
or when I join. I don't want to get this new profile tweaked and then have to
redo it. Could someone please articulate what I am doing incorrectly?

Thanks in advance.
JB

After the computer is joined to the domain on the first logon explicitly
logon as the domain user DOMAINNAME\USERNAME. This will create the domain
user's profile. The next time you logon all you should need is the user
name. On the logon prompt it will say either the domain name or local
computer name underneath where you enter the user and password. I'm assuming
you're not using the same user name for a local user and a domain user. That
will work but you have to always read the logon screen and make sure which
user you are using so it's not recommended.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca



"JB" <JB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FD241E4B-6898-4711-9ECD-533DD3DA86E0@microsoft.com...
>I installed Vista Enterprise. I set myself up as a member of the Domain as
>I
> always have under XP. It joined fine. However the login name remained as
> LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME not DOMAIN\USERNAME. I figured this was a
> characteristic of Vista. I used the machine with no problems for two
> weeks.
> One day when I booted my machine, the profile had changed to
> DOMAIN\USERNAME
> and everything that had been setup in the profile, naturally, was gone.
>
> I reinstalled. Went through the same procedure of joining the domain. It
> still shows LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME. I am trying to install CRM for
> Outlook. The installation is telling me I am "Not a Domain User." It looks
> like I am headed down the same path - one day shortly the machine will
> boot
> as DOMAIN\USERNAME.
>
> Clearly I'm not doing something correctly either with the account
> priviliges
> or when I join. I don't want to get this new profile tweaked and then have
> to
> redo it. Could someone please articulate what I am doing incorrectly?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> JB

Thank you very much. What I missed was the logon option for a different user,
which then articulated the domain. Once I did that things were fine. I copied
the profile and so far all is well. I was planning on updating this later
tonight but you beat me to the punch. Thanks again...JB

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> After the computer is joined to the domain on the first logon explicitly
> logon as the domain user DOMAINNAME\USERNAME. This will create the domain
> user's profile. The next time you logon all you should need is the user
> name. On the logon prompt it will say either the domain name or local
> computer name underneath where you enter the user and password. I'm assuming
> you're not using the same user name for a local user and a domain user. That
> will work but you have to always read the logon screen and make sure which
> user you are using so it's not recommended.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
>
> "JB" <JB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FD241E4B-6898-4711-9ECD-533DD3DA86E0@microsoft.com...
> >I installed Vista Enterprise. I set myself up as a member of the Domain as
> >I
> > always have under XP. It joined fine. However the login name remained as
> > LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME not DOMAIN\USERNAME. I figured this was a
> > characteristic of Vista. I used the machine with no problems for two
> > weeks.
> > One day when I booted my machine, the profile had changed to
> > DOMAIN\USERNAME
> > and everything that had been setup in the profile, naturally, was gone.
> >
> > I reinstalled. Went through the same procedure of joining the domain. It
> > still shows LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME. I am trying to install CRM for
> > Outlook. The installation is telling me I am "Not a Domain User." It looks
> > like I am headed down the same path - one day shortly the machine will
> > boot
> > as DOMAIN\USERNAME.
> >
> > Clearly I'm not doing something correctly either with the account
> > priviliges
> > or when I join. I don't want to get this new profile tweaked and then have
> > to
> > redo it. Could someone please articulate what I am doing incorrectly?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > JB
>
>

You're welcome. During the Vista beta I asked if the traditional logon
screen could be an option. I was told they decided to do way with it for
performance reasons. As it gave you a drop down list of available domains it
could take a long time to find all the domains in a large forest. I don't
see why they couldn't have a group policy or a setting somewhere to stop the
searching for domains but I guess that idea went nowhere :-)

I can see from a security standpoint the Vista way is better but I would
still like the option of the old logon screen.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"JB" <JB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:08D73AD3-81DB-484A-AC1D-984340A6BCB3@microsoft.com...
> Thank you very much. What I missed was the logon option for a different
> user,
> which then articulated the domain. Once I did that things were fine. I
> copied
> the profile and so far all is well. I was planning on updating this later
> tonight but you beat me to the punch. Thanks again...JB
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> After the computer is joined to the domain on the first logon explicitly
>> logon as the domain user DOMAINNAME\USERNAME. This will create the domain
>> user's profile. The next time you logon all you should need is the user
>> name. On the logon prompt it will say either the domain name or local
>> computer name underneath where you enter the user and password. I'm
>> assuming
>> you're not using the same user name for a local user and a domain user.
>> That
>> will work but you have to always read the logon screen and make sure
>> which
>> user you are using so it's not recommended.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> "JB" <JB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FD241E4B-6898-4711-9ECD-533DD3DA86E0@microsoft.com...
>> >I installed Vista Enterprise. I set myself up as a member of the Domain
>> >as
>> >I
>> > always have under XP. It joined fine. However the login name remained
>> > as
>> > LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME not DOMAIN\USERNAME. I figured this was a
>> > characteristic of Vista. I used the machine with no problems for two
>> > weeks.
>> > One day when I booted my machine, the profile had changed to
>> > DOMAIN\USERNAME
>> > and everything that had been setup in the profile, naturally, was gone.
>> >
>> > I reinstalled. Went through the same procedure of joining the domain.
>> > It
>> > still shows LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME. I am trying to install CRM for
>> > Outlook. The installation is telling me I am "Not a Domain User." It
>> > looks
>> > like I am headed down the same path - one day shortly the machine will
>> > boot
>> > as DOMAIN\USERNAME.
>> >
>> > Clearly I'm not doing something correctly either with the account
>> > priviliges
>> > or when I join. I don't want to get this new profile tweaked and then
>> > have
>> > to
>> > redo it. Could someone please articulate what I am doing incorrectly?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> > JB
>>
>>

Kerry,

While researching my problem, I stumble upon this that is almost similar to
mine. The diffirence is that I am using a laptop and connect to the domain
via a VPN that I launch after I login.

In XP, I could login to my domain "in cache mode" and then launch my VPN
after when I needed access to my drives or to Outlook for exemple.

In Vista I was able to join the domain but I get the CTRL-ALT-DEL prompt
with local-machine\username prompt and when I put domain\username, I get an
error that no authentification server is available. (username on the machine
is same as on the domain). Of course because I am remote and the VPN is not
up and running (could not find a way to launch it BEFORE the login prompt).

This causes some of my applications (like Sharepoint or CRM (over web
browser)) to require a login into the domain each time accessed (Sharepoint
is my home page). Annoying as hell. Even if I click remember password it
does not work. In XP, the fact that I logged in to my domain initially
prevented me from having that login request everytime.

How can I solve that ?

Tx

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:%235jPTuMQHHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> You're welcome. During the Vista beta I asked if the traditional logon
> screen could be an option. I was told they decided to do way with it for
> performance reasons. As it gave you a drop down list of available domains
> it could take a long time to find all the domains in a large forest. I
> don't see why they couldn't have a group policy or a setting somewhere to
> stop the searching for domains but I guess that idea went nowhere :-)
>
> I can see from a security standpoint the Vista way is better but I would
> still like the option of the old logon screen.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "JB" <JB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:08D73AD3-81DB-484A-AC1D-984340A6BCB3@microsoft.com...
>> Thank you very much. What I missed was the logon option for a different
>> user,
>> which then articulated the domain. Once I did that things were fine. I
>> copied
>> the profile and so far all is well. I was planning on updating this later
>> tonight but you beat me to the punch. Thanks again...JB
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>>
>>> After the computer is joined to the domain on the first logon explicitly
>>> logon as the domain user DOMAINNAME\USERNAME. This will create the
>>> domain
>>> user's profile. The next time you logon all you should need is the user
>>> name. On the logon prompt it will say either the domain name or local
>>> computer name underneath where you enter the user and password. I'm
>>> assuming
>>> you're not using the same user name for a local user and a domain user.
>>> That
>>> will work but you have to always read the logon screen and make sure
>>> which
>>> user you are using so it's not recommended.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kerry Brown
>>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "JB" <JB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FD241E4B-6898-4711-9ECD-533DD3DA86E0@microsoft.com...
>>> >I installed Vista Enterprise. I set myself up as a member of the Domain
>>> >as
>>> >I
>>> > always have under XP. It joined fine. However the login name remained
>>> > as
>>> > LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME not DOMAIN\USERNAME. I figured this was a
>>> > characteristic of Vista. I used the machine with no problems for two
>>> > weeks.
>>> > One day when I booted my machine, the profile had changed to
>>> > DOMAIN\USERNAME
>>> > and everything that had been setup in the profile, naturally, was
>>> > gone.
>>> >
>>> > I reinstalled. Went through the same procedure of joining the domain.
>>> > It
>>> > still shows LOCALMACHINENAME\USERNAME. I am trying to install CRM for
>>> > Outlook. The installation is telling me I am "Not a Domain User." It
>>> > looks
>>> > like I am headed down the same path - one day shortly the machine will
>>> > boot
>>> > as DOMAIN\USERNAME.
>>> >
>>> > Clearly I'm not doing something correctly either with the account
>>> > priviliges
>>> > or when I join. I don't want to get this new profile tweaked and then
>>> > have
>>> > to
>>> > redo it. Could someone please articulate what I am doing incorrectly?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance.
>>> > JB
>>>
>>>
>