Vista - Administrator Account

10-07-2007

On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:45:39 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

Quote:

> The problem is that some older older programs, that were designed
> with a traditional admin account in mind, will either not
> function properly or throw error messages if it cannot access
> restricted areas of the OS.
>
> This can usually be overcome by starting and running the program
> as administrator, if you decide that it is safe to do so.

The puzzling thing is why 'Run as administrator' is necessary for
the standard user/administrator account set up on installing Vista.
This account surely should be able to elevate its privileges for
operations that require it through the UAC 'Do you want to continue'
dialogs. Why would you need to start the operation using 'Run as
administrator', or indeed do you need to at all?

--
Chris Game

"Chance favors only the prepared mind." -- Louis Pasteur

10-07-2007

Chris

You may need this option for older programs that were made prior to Vista.
Most of these programs were developed assuming that everyone uses an
administrator account, despite warnings that they should not be programmed
this way.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

"Chris Game" <chrisgame@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:v9azq2on6g91.dlg@xxxxxx

Quote:

> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:45:39 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:
>

Quote:

>> The problem is that some older older programs, that were designed
>> with a traditional admin account in mind, will either not
>> function properly or throw error messages if it cannot access
>> restricted areas of the OS.
>>
>> This can usually be overcome by starting and running the program
>> as administrator, if you decide that it is safe to do so.

>
> The puzzling thing is why 'Run as administrator' is necessary for
> the standard user/administrator account set up on installing Vista.
> This account surely should be able to elevate its privileges for
> operations that require it through the UAC 'Do you want to continue'
> dialogs. Why would you need to start the operation using 'Run as
> administrator', or indeed do you need to at all?
>
> --
> Chris Game
>
> "Chance favors only the prepared mind." -- Louis Pasteur

10-08-2007

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:26:33 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

Quote:

> You may need this option for older programs that were made prior
> to Vista. Most of these programs were developed assuming that
> everyone uses an administrator account, despite warnings that
> they should not be programmed this way.

Yes, my question was really to try to understand why the OS wouldn't
offer to elevate the privileges of the user when such programs try
to access or write data outside the user's usual area, as it does
for many operations on files.

--
Chris Game

Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

3 Weeks Ago

hi im the only user of a used computer but i dont no the administrator log on
information so now i cant restart on computer to b the administrator to
download or switch users can u tell me how to reset the computer so i can b
administrator please help asap , thankz
--
mz carolyn

"David Johnson" wrote:

Quote:

> Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user
> on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of
> Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get
> enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you
> can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't
> use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the
> Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only
> user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would
> it be easier to just reinstall? Please help.
>
> David
>
>

10-07-2007	#21 (permalink)
Chris Game n/a posts	Re: Administrator Account On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:45:39 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote: Quote: > The problem is that some older older programs, that were designed > with a traditional admin account in mind, will either not > function properly or throw error messages if it cannot access > restricted areas of the OS. > > This can usually be overcome by starting and running the program > as administrator, if you decide that it is safe to do so. The puzzling thing is why 'Run as administrator' is necessary for the standard user/administrator account set up on installing Vista. This account surely should be able to elevate its privileges for operations that require it through the UAC 'Do you want to continue' dialogs. Why would you need to start the operation using 'Run as administrator', or indeed do you need to at all? -- Chris Game "Chance favors only the prepared mind." -- Louis Pasteur
My System Specs

10-07-2007	#22 (permalink)
Ronnie Vernon MVP n/a posts	Re: Administrator Account Chris You may need this option for older programs that were made prior to Vista. Most of these programs were developed assuming that everyone uses an administrator account, despite warnings that they should not be programmed this way. -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User "Chris Game" <chrisgame@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:v9azq2on6g91.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: > On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:45:39 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote: > Quote: >> The problem is that some older older programs, that were designed >> with a traditional admin account in mind, will either not >> function properly or throw error messages if it cannot access >> restricted areas of the OS. >> >> This can usually be overcome by starting and running the program >> as administrator, if you decide that it is safe to do so. > > The puzzling thing is why 'Run as administrator' is necessary for > the standard user/administrator account set up on installing Vista. > This account surely should be able to elevate its privileges for > operations that require it through the UAC 'Do you want to continue' > dialogs. Why would you need to start the operation using 'Run as > administrator', or indeed do you need to at all? > > -- > Chris Game > > "Chance favors only the prepared mind." -- Louis Pasteur
My System Specs

10-08-2007	#23 (permalink)
Chris Game n/a posts	Re: Administrator Account On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:26:33 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote: Quote: > You may need this option for older programs that were made prior > to Vista. Most of these programs were developed assuming that > everyone uses an administrator account, despite warnings that > they should not be programmed this way. Yes, my question was really to try to understand why the OS wouldn't offer to elevate the privileges of the user when such programs try to access or write data outside the user's usual area, as it does for many operations on files. -- Chris Game Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.
My System Specs

3 Weeks Ago	#24 (permalink)
mz carolyn n/a posts	RE: Administrator Account hi im the only user of a used computer but i dont no the administrator log on information so now i cant restart on computer to b the administrator to download or switch users can u tell me how to reset the computer so i can b administrator please help asap , thankz -- mz carolyn "David Johnson" wrote: Quote: > Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user > on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of > Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get > enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you > can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't > use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the > Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only > user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would > it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. > > David > >
My System Specs

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