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Old 03-12-2007   #1 (permalink)
bmv
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administrator priv not recognized after program closes

I am running an accounting program. I am the only administrator/user on this
computer. I have tried to "run the program as administrator" which helps
while the program is running, however there are updates that are supposed to
load after the program shuts down and I get the message: Please have an
administrator log in to change the program.

I don't get it as I am supposed to be the administrator!



Old 03-12-2007   #2 (permalink)
Jimmy Brush
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Re: administrator priv not recognized after program closes

Hello,

In Windows Vista, even though you are an administrator, the programs that
run on your computer cannot use your administrator power unless they ask you
for it, or you explicitly give them power by right-clicking them and
clicking Run As Administrator.

You are doing everything correctly; the program is at fault here.

I would suggest checking for an update for the program on their website that
makes their software vista-compatible.


--
- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

Old 03-15-2007   #3 (permalink)
kelly
Guest


 

Re: administrator priv not recognized after program closes

Yeah that makes sense. The program that works correctly untill Vistas admin
problems come up and the standard response is "the program is at fault"

Yea, right..

Sound to me like Vistas "running admin programs not at admin levels" program
is at fault.

"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> In Windows Vista, even though you are an administrator, the programs that
> run on your computer cannot use your administrator power unless they ask you
> for it, or you explicitly give them power by right-clicking them and
> clicking Run As Administrator.
>
> You are doing everything correctly; the program is at fault here.
>
> I would suggest checking for an update for the program on their website that
> makes their software vista-compatible.
>
>
> --
> - JB
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
> Windows Vista Support Faq
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>

Old 03-15-2007   #4 (permalink)
Ronnie Vernon MVP
Guest


 

Re: administrator priv not recognized after program closes

You are making an incorrect assumption because you have not taken the time
to look at the underlying reasons for the way Vista works. There are no
admin problems in Vista, only in the way programs that are not Vista
compliant work.

Up until now, some programs have been written to require that they be given
full access to the Windows system with no restrictions at all, even if the
programs did not really require this type of access. This allowed things
like viruses and other malware to use these programs to gain access to the
system core and perform their dirty deeds. These programs were written this
way simply because it was easier than writing them to access only the
specific parts of the system that they actually needed.

These legacy programs need to be updated to comply with the restrictions
that are present in Vista. A program that meets these new standards will not
require the elevated prompt for admin access to be displayed.

If you really want to be informed read the following article.

User Account Control Overview:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa906021.aspx


--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"kelly" <kelly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BE9B1CDC-F6B0-4DD6-9114-66EFA90D9F1F@microsoft.com...
> Yeah that makes sense. The program that works correctly untill Vistas
> admin
> problems come up and the standard response is "the program is at fault"
>
> Yea, right..
>
> Sound to me like Vistas "running admin programs not at admin levels"
> program
> is at fault.
>
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> In Windows Vista, even though you are an administrator, the programs that
>> run on your computer cannot use your administrator power unless they ask
>> you
>> for it, or you explicitly give them power by right-clicking them and
>> clicking Run As Administrator.
>>
>> You are doing everything correctly; the program is at fault here.
>>
>> I would suggest checking for an update for the program on their website
>> that
>> makes their software vista-compatible.
>>
>>
>> --
>> - JB
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>> Windows Vista Support Faq
>> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>>


Old 03-19-2007   #5 (permalink)
bmv
Guest


 

Re: administrator priv not recognized after program closes

I will read the 8 pages and see what I can do.

My biggest frustration comes from the fact that I did NOT want to buy a
laptop with VISTA because these transitional problems need time to be ironed
out, it usually takes a year for both the MS world and Non-MS world to become
compatible.

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> You are making an incorrect assumption because you have not taken the time
> to look at the underlying reasons for the way Vista works. There are no
> admin problems in Vista, only in the way programs that are not Vista
> compliant work.
>
> Up until now, some programs have been written to require that they be given
> full access to the Windows system with no restrictions at all, even if the
> programs did not really require this type of access. This allowed things
> like viruses and other malware to use these programs to gain access to the
> system core and perform their dirty deeds. These programs were written this
> way simply because it was easier than writing them to access only the
> specific parts of the system that they actually needed.
>
> These legacy programs need to be updated to comply with the restrictions
> that are present in Vista. A program that meets these new standards will not
> require the elevated prompt for admin access to be displayed.
>
> If you really want to be informed read the following article.
>
> User Account Control Overview:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa906021.aspx
>
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "kelly" <kelly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BE9B1CDC-F6B0-4DD6-9114-66EFA90D9F1F@microsoft.com...
> > Yeah that makes sense. The program that works correctly untill Vistas
> > admin
> > problems come up and the standard response is "the program is at fault"
> >
> > Yea, right..
> >
> > Sound to me like Vistas "running admin programs not at admin levels"
> > program
> > is at fault.
> >
> > "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> In Windows Vista, even though you are an administrator, the programs that
> >> run on your computer cannot use your administrator power unless they ask
> >> you
> >> for it, or you explicitly give them power by right-clicking them and
> >> clicking Run As Administrator.
> >>
> >> You are doing everything correctly; the program is at fault here.
> >>
> >> I would suggest checking for an update for the program on their website
> >> that
> >> makes their software vista-compatible.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> - JB
> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >> Windows Vista Support Faq
> >> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
> >>

>

Old 08-10-2007   #6 (permalink)
Mild Mannered Professor
Guest


 

Re: administrator priv not recognized after program closes



"bmv" wrote:

> I will read the 8 pages and see what I can do.
>
> My biggest frustration comes from the fact that I did NOT want to buy a
> laptop with VISTA because these transitional problems need time to be ironed
> out, it usually takes a year for both the MS world and Non-MS world to become
> compatible.
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
> > You are making an incorrect assumption because you have not taken the time
> > to look at the underlying reasons for the way Vista works. There are no
> > admin problems in Vista, only in the way programs that are not Vista
> > compliant work.
> >
> > Up until now, some programs have been written to require that they be given
> > full access to the Windows system with no restrictions at all, even if the
> > programs did not really require this type of access. This allowed things
> > like viruses and other malware to use these programs to gain access to the
> > system core and perform their dirty deeds. These programs were written this
> > way simply because it was easier than writing them to access only the
> > specific parts of the system that they actually needed.
> >
> > These legacy programs need to be updated to comply with the restrictions
> > that are present in Vista. A program that meets these new standards will not
> > require the elevated prompt for admin access to be displayed.
> >
> > If you really want to be informed read the following article.
> >
> > User Account Control Overview:
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa906021.aspx
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ronnie Vernon
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows Shell/User
> >
> >
> > "kelly" <kelly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:BE9B1CDC-F6B0-4DD6-9114-66EFA90D9F1F@microsoft.com...
> > > Yeah that makes sense. The program that works correctly untill Vistas
> > > admin
> > > problems come up and the standard response is "the program is at fault"
> > >
> > > Yea, right..
> > >
> > > Sound to me like Vistas "running admin programs not at admin levels"
> > > program
> > > is at fault.
> > >
> > > "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> In Windows Vista, even though you are an administrator, the programs that
> > >> run on your computer cannot use your administrator power unless they ask
> > >> you
> > >> for it, or you explicitly give them power by right-clicking them and
> > >> clicking Run As Administrator.
> > >>
> > >> You are doing everything correctly; the program is at fault here.
> > >>
> > >> I would suggest checking for an update for the program on their website
> > >> that
> > >> makes their software vista-compatible.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> - JB
> > >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
> > >>
> > >> Windows Vista Support Faq
> > >> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
> > >>

> >

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