Vista - Over-ride Administrative Policy

I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine. When I try
to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device Center 6
for Windows Vista), I get an error message:

"The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation".

Yet:
- I am the system administrator
- and there's no option to enter password to give permission.

Suggestions?

In Vista, even an administrator account runs with standard user privileges
until a program asks for administrator elevation. The programs you are
installing have not been updated for Vista.

You can force the issue by right clicking the installation file and
selecting the Run as Administrator option in the context menu.



--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Harry Motro" <Harry Motro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0CDA5B70-5C3F-479E-9CF7-7C1B6ECA4C57@microsoft.com...
>I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine. When I
>try
> to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device Center
> 6
> for Windows Vista), I get an error message:
>
> "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation".
>
> Yet:
> - I am the system administrator
> - and there's no option to enter password to give permission.
>
> Suggestions?

I have had the same exact problem with the new itunes 7.1.1 and 'run as
admin' does not help. I have tried too many things to list with no avail.
Can anyone help?

"Harry Motro" wrote:

> I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine. When I try
> to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device Center 6
> for Windows Vista), I get an error message:
>
> "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation".
>
> Yet:
> - I am the system administrator
> - and there's no option to enter password to give permission.
>
> Suggestions?

If anyone is interested I found out that in windows home premium, secpol.msc,
is not available, therefore you have to go through the command prompt to open
the 'real' administrator account. Once I did this my 2 week problem was
solved.

"jaxsen" wrote:

> I have had the same exact problem with the new itunes 7.1.1 and 'run as
> admin' does not help. I have tried too many things to list with no avail.
> Can anyone help?
>
> "Harry Motro" wrote:
>
> > I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine. When I try
> > to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device Center 6
> > for Windows Vista), I get an error message:
> >
> > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation".
> >
> > Yet:
> > - I am the system administrator
> > - and there's no option to enter password to give permission.
> >
> > Suggestions?

Yes, well, my issue is with Powerdvd. It won't let me install v 7.03, because
it says I don't have administrative permission on my computer. I changed the
settings, i think, like previously suggested, but now it won't go further
than entering my password. Once I enter the password, it won't let me go any
further, just gives that same error. I would right-click the option to enter
the password, but when I do so, right clicking shows no options. So, how can
I change my settings or whatever to enable the usage of powerdvd?

YOU BET I'M (among a multitude) INTERESTED.

Jaxsen, your message very enticing -- and equally unenlightening! For those
of us less experienced, please advice precise path after the (black) screen
appears with all the mumbo-jombo. What then?

Thank you. Cordially,



"jaxsen" wrote:

> If anyone is interested I found out that in windows home premium, secpol.msc,
> is not available, therefore you have to go through the command prompt to open
> the 'real' administrator account. Once I did this my 2 week problem was
> solved.
>
> "jaxsen" wrote:
>
> > I have had the same exact problem with the new itunes 7.1.1 and 'run as
> > admin' does not help. I have tried too many things to list with no avail.
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > "Harry Motro" wrote:
> >
> > > I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine. When I try
> > > to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device Center 6
> > > for Windows Vista), I get an error message:
> > >
> > > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation".
> > >
> > > Yet:
> > > - I am the system administrator
> > > - and there's no option to enter password to give permission.
> > >
> > > Suggestions?

RODuke41

You replied to a very old thread that did not contain a lot of information.

What exactly is the problem you are experiencing and what would you like to
accomplish?

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"RODuke41" <ro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:013F5C75-66C1-43FC-B6E8-4946345A6993@microsoft.com...
> YOU BET I'M (among a multitude) INTERESTED.
>
> Jaxsen, your message very enticing -- and equally unenlightening! For
> those
> of us less experienced, please advice precise path after the (black)
> screen
> appears with all the mumbo-jombo. What then?
>
> Thank you. Cordially,
>
>
>
> "jaxsen" wrote:
>
>> If anyone is interested I found out that in windows home premium,
>> secpol.msc,
>> is not available, therefore you have to go through the command prompt to
>> open
>> the 'real' administrator account. Once I did this my 2 week problem was
>> solved.
>>
>> "jaxsen" wrote:
>>
>> > I have had the same exact problem with the new itunes 7.1.1 and 'run as
>> > admin' does not help. I have tried too many things to list with no
>> > avail.
>> > Can anyone help?
>> >
>> > "Harry Motro" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine.
>> > > When I try
>> > > to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device
>> > > Center 6
>> > > for Windows Vista), I get an error message:
>> > >
>> > > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this
>> > > installation".
>> > >
>> > > Yet:
>> > > - I am the system administrator
>> > > - and there's no option to enter password to give permission.
>> > >
>> > > Suggestions?

Thank you, Vernon. Prompt reply appreciated.

What I am trying to accomplish is where/how/when Administrator (that's me)
policies were set and equally, how/where to change them.

As you know, there's a multitude of group members experiencing the same
problem over an extended period. All sorts of responses, but not one answers
the question. Put aside UAC off/on, a workaround sometimes but not always
helpful,and dangerous to boot.

Cordially,
--
RO


"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> RODuke41
>
> You replied to a very old thread that did not contain a lot of information.
>
> What exactly is the problem you are experiencing and what would you like to
> accomplish?
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "RODuke41" <ro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:013F5C75-66C1-43FC-B6E8-4946345A6993@microsoft.com...
> > YOU BET I'M (among a multitude) INTERESTED.
> >
> > Jaxsen, your message very enticing -- and equally unenlightening! For
> > those
> > of us less experienced, please advice precise path after the (black)
> > screen
> > appears with all the mumbo-jombo. What then?
> >
> > Thank you. Cordially,
> >
> >
> >
> > "jaxsen" wrote:
> >
> >> If anyone is interested I found out that in windows home premium,
> >> secpol.msc,
> >> is not available, therefore you have to go through the command prompt to
> >> open
> >> the 'real' administrator account. Once I did this my 2 week problem was
> >> solved.
> >>
> >> "jaxsen" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have had the same exact problem with the new itunes 7.1.1 and 'run as
> >> > admin' does not help. I have tried too many things to list with no
> >> > avail.
> >> > Can anyone help?
> >> >
> >> > "Harry Motro" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine.
> >> > > When I try
> >> > > to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device
> >> > > Center 6
> >> > > for Windows Vista), I get an error message:
> >> > >
> >> > > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this
> >> > > installation".
> >> > >
> >> > > Yet:
> >> > > - I am the system administrator
> >> > > - and there's no option to enter password to give permission.
> >> > >
> >> > > Suggestions?
>

RO

> What I am trying to accomplish is where/how/when Administrator (that's me)
> policies were set and equally, how/where to change them.

If you are using Vista Business, Enterprise or Ultimate, the policies that
control the UAC prompt that you see when a program asks for system wide,
unrestricted access, are set in either the Group Policy Editor or Security
Policy Editor. If you are using the Vista Home Basic or Home Premium, they
are set in the registry.

> As you know, there's a multitude of group members experiencing the same
> problem over an extended period. All sorts of responses, but not one
> answers
> the question. Put aside UAC off/on, a workaround sometimes but not always
> helpful,and dangerous to boot.

There are only a couple of ways to over-ride administrative policies. One is
to turn UAC off, which you have already noted can be dangerous and the other
is to use the built-in administrator account, which has the administrator
elevation prompt disabled. Using this account can be as dangerous as
disabling UAC, since it has the ability to allow any program to gain
unrestricted access to the entire system with no prompt as to what is
happening.

Another disadvantage to using the built-in administrator account is that
changes made to the system may only be applied to settings when you are
logged on with that account.

You can enable the built-in administrator account by going to Start and
typing cmd.exe In the results, right click cmd.exe and select the Run As
Administrator option.

In the command window, type the following command:

net user administrator /active:yes

Press Enter.

This will make the built-in admin account visible on the login screen.
--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"RODuke41" <ro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3E3E4844-393F-43BE-9E35-90D5ECDE3CF0@microsoft.com...
> Thank you, Vernon. Prompt reply appreciated.
>
> Cordially,
> --
> RO
>
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
>> RODuke41
>>
>> You replied to a very old thread that did not contain a lot of
>> information.
>>
>> What exactly is the problem you are experiencing and what would you like
>> to
>> accomplish?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "RODuke41" <ro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:013F5C75-66C1-43FC-B6E8-4946345A6993@microsoft.com...
>> > YOU BET I'M (among a multitude) INTERESTED.
>> >
>> > Jaxsen, your message very enticing -- and equally unenlightening! For
>> > those
>> > of us less experienced, please advice precise path after the (black)
>> > screen
>> > appears with all the mumbo-jombo. What then?
>> >
>> > Thank you. Cordially,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "jaxsen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> If anyone is interested I found out that in windows home premium,
>> >> secpol.msc,
>> >> is not available, therefore you have to go through the command prompt
>> >> to
>> >> open
>> >> the 'real' administrator account. Once I did this my 2 week problem
>> >> was
>> >> solved.
>> >>
>> >> "jaxsen" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I have had the same exact problem with the new itunes 7.1.1 and 'run
>> >> > as
>> >> > admin' does not help. I have tried too many things to list with no
>> >> > avail.
>> >> > Can anyone help?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Harry Motro" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine.
>> >> > > When I try
>> >> > > to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device
>> >> > > Center 6
>> >> > > for Windows Vista), I get an error message:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this
>> >> > > installation".
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Yet:
>> >> > > - I am the system administrator
>> >> > > - and there's no option to enter password to give permission.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Suggestions?
>>

I am much obliged Ronnie Vernon although your reply is a good illustration of
the expression, you've forgotten more than I'll ever know.

You say the Admin policies for Vista HP are set in the Registry. That
effectively puts them well beyond me as even the word Registry makes me
apprehensive. I now understand why no info is supplied when the dreaded block
appears.

You helpfully continue with alternatives to override admin policies, each of
which is dangerous, any one more so than another. Your conclusion re making
the built-in admin account visible on the login screen makes me wonder
whether it's worthwhile to do so. A case of the cure being worse than the
bite, so to speak.

It is disappointing to realize the repetitive blocking of all sorts of
program installation (including even some from msn!) is insoluble. Process
then requires going to where UAC can be turned off, then back to the program,
then after install, back again to turn on UAC. Almost worth turning off Vista.

Cordially, RO

PS: In your opinion are the MSN programers likely to come up with a
modification allowing on-the-spot Admin change to ALLOW an installation to
proceed? And I mean in the near future; at my age long term planning is six
months.


--
RO


"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> RO
>
> > What I am trying to accomplish is where/how/when Administrator (that's me)
> > policies were set and equally, how/where to change them.
>
> If you are using Vista Business, Enterprise or Ultimate, the policies that
> control the UAC prompt that you see when a program asks for system wide,
> unrestricted access, are set in either the Group Policy Editor or Security
> Policy Editor. If you are using the Vista Home Basic or Home Premium, they
> are set in the registry.
>
> > As you know, there's a multitude of group members experiencing the same
> > problem over an extended period. All sorts of responses, but not one
> > answers
> > the question. Put aside UAC off/on, a workaround sometimes but not always
> > helpful,and dangerous to boot.
>
> There are only a couple of ways to over-ride administrative policies. One is
> to turn UAC off, which you have already noted can be dangerous and the other
> is to use the built-in administrator account, which has the administrator
> elevation prompt disabled. Using this account can be as dangerous as
> disabling UAC, since it has the ability to allow any program to gain
> unrestricted access to the entire system with no prompt as to what is
> happening.
>
> Another disadvantage to using the built-in administrator account is that
> changes made to the system may only be applied to settings when you are
> logged on with that account.
>
> You can enable the built-in administrator account by going to Start and
> typing cmd.exe In the results, right click cmd.exe and select the Run As
> Administrator option.
>
> In the command window, type the following command:
>
> net user administrator /active:yes
>
> Press Enter.
>
> This will make the built-in admin account visible on the login screen.
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "RODuke41" <ro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3E3E4844-393F-43BE-9E35-90D5ECDE3CF0@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you, Vernon. Prompt reply appreciated.
> >
> > Cordially,
> > --
> > RO
> >
> >
> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> RODuke41
> >>
> >> You replied to a very old thread that did not contain a lot of
> >> information.
> >>
> >> What exactly is the problem you are experiencing and what would you like
> >> to
> >> accomplish?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ronnie Vernon
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >>
> >> "RODuke41" <ro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:013F5C75-66C1-43FC-B6E8-4946345A6993@microsoft.com...
> >> > YOU BET I'M (among a multitude) INTERESTED.
> >> >
> >> > Jaxsen, your message very enticing -- and equally unenlightening! For
> >> > those
> >> > of us less experienced, please advice precise path after the (black)
> >> > screen
> >> > appears with all the mumbo-jombo. What then?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you. Cordially,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "jaxsen" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If anyone is interested I found out that in windows home premium,
> >> >> secpol.msc,
> >> >> is not available, therefore you have to go through the command prompt
> >> >> to
> >> >> open
> >> >> the 'real' administrator account. Once I did this my 2 week problem
> >> >> was
> >> >> solved.
> >> >>
> >> >> "jaxsen" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I have had the same exact problem with the new itunes 7.1.1 and 'run
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > admin' does not help. I have tried too many things to list with no
> >> >> > avail.
> >> >> > Can anyone help?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Harry Motro" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > I have Windows Vista Premium and am working on a SINGLE machine.
> >> >> > > When I try
> >> >> > > to install certain programs (I-tunes 7.1 and Windows Mobile Device
> >> >> > > Center 6
> >> >> > > for Windows Vista), I get an error message:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this
> >> >> > > installation".
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Yet:
> >> >> > > - I am the system administrator
> >> >> > > - and there's no option to enter password to give permission.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Suggestions?
> >>
>
>