Windows Vista Forums

Administrator account - Built-in vs. new one
  1. #1


    Luc Guest

    Administrator account - Built-in vs. new one

    It is generally recommended to use a standard account for day-to-day
    operations, and to reserve the administrator account for any actions that
    affect all user(s) on a system. Even when there is only one user, say on a
    home PC, if I understand things correctly, it is best to have both an
    administrator and a standard account.

    But what is the better alternative, if any: enable the built-in
    administrator account and convert the administrator account that is created
    automatically when installing Vista to a standard one; or create a second,
    standard account alongside the administrator that is created when installing
    Vista, and leave the built-in administrator account disabled.



    Any thoughts or recommendations?

    --
    Luc

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #2


    Bruce Chambers Guest

    Re: Administrator account - Built-in vs. new one

    Luc wrote:

    > It is generally recommended to use a standard account for day-to-day
    > operations, and to reserve the administrator account for any actions that
    > affect all user(s) on a system. Even when there is only one user, say on a
    > home PC, if I understand things correctly, it is best to have both an
    > administrator and a standard account.
    >

    Correct. Routinely using a computer with administrative privileges
    is not without some risk. You will be more susceptible to some types of
    malware, particularly adware and spyware. While using a computer with
    limited privileges isn't the cure-all, silver bullet that some claim it
    to be, any experienced IT professional will verify that doing so
    definitely reduces that amount of damage and depth of penetration by the
    malware. If you get infected/infested while running as an
    administrator, the odds are much greater that any malware will be
    extremely difficult, if not impossible, to remove with formating the
    hard drive and starting anew. The intruding malware will have the same
    privileges to all of the files on your hard drive that you do.

    Vista's UAC adds an additional layer of protection, even if you
    don't enter a password each time it warns you; the important thing is
    that you're being warned, and can then make your own decision. A
    technically competent user who is aware of the risks and knows how to
    take proper precautions can usually safely operate with administrative
    privileges; I do so myself. But I certainly don't recommend it for the
    average computer user.


    > But what is the better alternative, if any: enable the built-in
    > administrator account and convert the administrator account that is created
    > automatically when installing Vista to a standard one; or create a second,
    > standard account alongside the administrator that is created when installing
    > Vista, and leave the built-in administrator account disabled.
    >
    > Any thoughts or recommendations?
    >

    The built-in Administrator account really was never intended to be
    used for day-to-day normal use. The standard security practice is to
    rename the account, set a strong password on it, and use it only to
    create another account for regular use, reserving the Administrator
    account as a "back door" in case something corrupts your regular
    account(s).

    I create both an administrative account and a regular account for my
    use, reserving the built-in Administrator account (after renaming it and
    placing a strong password on it) for emergency use should my "normal"
    administrator account become damaged or otherwise unavailable.



    --

    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
    http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Luc Guest

    Re: Administrator account - Built-in vs. new one

    Hi Bruce,

    Thank you for your detailed explanation. To be on the safe (safest) side
    then, I had better create a second, standard account for myself (I'm the only
    user, by the way) to be protected best against malware, use the administrator
    account that was created when installing Vista only for those actions that do
    require administrator-privileges, and leave the built-in but unabled
    administrator account untouched (the built-in one doesn't seem to be subject
    to UAC, if I understand correctly, so doesn't provide quite the same
    protection that any other administrator account does).
    --
    Luc


    "Bruce Chambers" wrote:

    > Luc wrote:

    > > It is generally recommended to use a standard account for day-to-day
    > > operations, and to reserve the administrator account for any actions that
    > > affect all user(s) on a system. Even when there is only one user, say on a
    > > home PC, if I understand things correctly, it is best to have both an
    > > administrator and a standard account.
    > >
    >
    >
    > Correct. Routinely using a computer with administrative privileges
    > is not without some risk. You will be more susceptible to some types of
    > malware, particularly adware and spyware. While using a computer with
    > limited privileges isn't the cure-all, silver bullet that some claim it
    > to be, any experienced IT professional will verify that doing so
    > definitely reduces that amount of damage and depth of penetration by the
    > malware. If you get infected/infested while running as an
    > administrator, the odds are much greater that any malware will be
    > extremely difficult, if not impossible, to remove with formating the
    > hard drive and starting anew. The intruding malware will have the same
    > privileges to all of the files on your hard drive that you do.
    >
    > Vista's UAC adds an additional layer of protection, even if you
    > don't enter a password each time it warns you; the important thing is
    > that you're being warned, and can then make your own decision. A
    > technically competent user who is aware of the risks and knows how to
    > take proper precautions can usually safely operate with administrative
    > privileges; I do so myself. But I certainly don't recommend it for the
    > average computer user.
    >
    >

    > > But what is the better alternative, if any: enable the built-in
    > > administrator account and convert the administrator account that is created
    > > automatically when installing Vista to a standard one; or create a second,
    > > standard account alongside the administrator that is created when installing
    > > Vista, and leave the built-in administrator account disabled.
    > >
    > > Any thoughts or recommendations?
    > >
    >
    >
    > The built-in Administrator account really was never intended to be
    > used for day-to-day normal use. The standard security practice is to
    > rename the account, set a strong password on it, and use it only to
    > create another account for regular use, reserving the Administrator
    > account as a "back door" in case something corrupts your regular
    > account(s).
    >
    > I create both an administrative account and a regular account for my
    > use, reserving the built-in Administrator account (after renaming it and
    > placing a strong password on it) for emergency use should my "normal"
    > administrator account become damaged or otherwise unavailable.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Bruce Chambers
    >
    > Help us help you:
    > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
    > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
    >
    > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
    >
    > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #4


    Bruce Chambers Guest

    Re: Administrator account - Built-in vs. new one

    Luc wrote:

    > Hi Bruce,
    >
    > Thank you for your detailed explanation. To be on the safe (safest) side
    > then, I had better create a second, standard account for myself (I'm the only
    > user, by the way) to be protected best against malware, use the administrator
    > account that was created when installing Vista only for those actions that do
    > require administrator-privileges, and leave the built-in but unabled
    > administrator account untouched (the built-in one doesn't seem to be subject
    > to UAC, if I understand correctly, so doesn't provide quite the same
    > protection that any other administrator account does).

    You're welcome. However, I don't recommend leaving the built-in
    account disabled. If you do that, you'll be unable to use it when you
    need it. I'd recommend enabling it, renaming it, and setting a strong
    password on it.


    --

    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
    http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

Administrator account - Built-in vs. new one problems?

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Built-in Administrator Account - Change Name Brink Tutorials 0 21 Apr 2009
Built in Administrator account disabled? Mike Vista account administration 3 17 Apr 2008
Built-in administrator account Scott Vista General 6 08 Jun 2007
Built-in administrator account Dimas Perez Vista account administration 5 13 Feb 2007
Built-in Administrator account SteveC Vista security 1 10 Oct 2006