Pretty much most or probably all of the missing files were created after the
restore point by downloading zips and extracting into project folders under
my Documents folder. I was afraid that was what happened but documentation
claimed elsewise. I did not take a detailed inventory as I had way too many
files and I had to restore from my backups anyway.
That MSFT would delete these files is an unbelieveably horrible bug!
Especially when they claim to not touch files in that folder. And to just
rip out SOME of the files out of a project folder and not the entire folder.
What stupid Microsoft twit could possibly envision that as a "feature" is
beyond me. To arbitrarily remove files that were manually placed in a
personal folder. Just incredible.
Really really bad bug imo!
Thanks for posting Bert's reply Jabez.
I have all system restore and shadow features turned off supposedly but
there are so many bugs in Vista in areas where XP was perfectly stable I
don't trust Vista and I spend a lot of extra time backing up my images and
data and code.
One of the more irritating Vista "features" are when the views of folders
keep seemingly randomly changing even after you customize them and all their
subfolders esp. after looking at a folder with jpg files in them. I have to
reset the folder customizations a lot in order to see the size and last
Attached below in the scenario of what happened regarding system restore
trashing my files and would suggest any further discussion be in the
vista.file_management group as the general groups is way to "noisy".
[summary of how my files got deleted by system "restore" - what a joke!]
I run a fairly stout system and have 3 x 320G drives where C: is my boot
drive, D: is my backup drive and E: is my copy of the backup drive that I
swap offsite with a 4th 320G drive that is also E: so as to have the running
image, several full and differential backups on D: and then 2 copies of the
D: drive rotated offsite each week.
Don't think I want to repro this again but what happened to the best of my
memory and my change logs was:
10/19 did a full acronis true image backup - was about 36G for the backup
10/19 installed MSFT updates and VS2008 and did a differential backup for
10/20-10/24 downloaded and unzipped several WWF examples and compiled and
ran them fine. Also created my own project for WWF and created several
10/24 installed MSFT updates including some drivers for silicon image sata
controller and then worked on my project some more.
10/25 Noticed my 3rd 320G sata drive that I rotate for backups was no longer
described as a removable drive like the other 2 which I don't swap so I
figured I had a bad driver from the updates and since my full image was a
10/25 did a differential backup for about 18.5G SInce my last differential
was AFTER I found the non removable drive problem I did a system restore
from the checkpoint made on 10/24 which should have been made before updates
10/25 went to compile my project and noticed all my .CS files were missing.
Found that ALL the .CS files were missing from all the projects I had
recently added over the last 4 days. All these file were under
updates installed on 10/24 still showed they were present after the system
10/26 did a differential backup and this time it was only 8.9G so almost 10G
of data had been deleted by the system restore! Stuff besides the .CS files
also had been deleted but I did not bother much to note what they were since
I now totally distrusted my filesystem.
10/26 backed up all meaningful data I had changed since the 10/25
differential backup and did a full volume restore thru the 10/25
differential then manually added back the files I had changed including
fortunately a manual backup copy of my project I had placed on my backup
drive. In the end I lost a few .CS files but they were only samples and I
can reload them from the internet but at least am back to a solid image and
have my source code I worked on for 4 days.
BTW, there is also a horrible problem with IIS using old files from a
website if the files are replaced or the folder replaced as IIS uses the old
files from the shadow copies.
I have totally disabled all aspects of system resore and shadow copies as I
think they are much more dangerous than useful. I would much prefer that
MSFT supplied a decent backup system.
[end of summary]
"Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> From Bert's post in the .General NG:
> Hi Dave,
> File type (.cs) is monitored by System Restore. How far back did you
> the system? And were the files there prier to the creation of the restore
> point the system was restored to?
> And in Vista, the Documents folder is not exempt from System Restore as
> My Documents folder was in XP.
> If the files removed by System Restore were not backed up, you can preform
> undo restore to get them back. Then restore back to just before the
> driver was installed.
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> Member: http://dts-l.org
> Jabez Gan
> Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
> "Dave" <dave@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> Bert. Appreciate the reply. Could you post here? Way too much noise in
>> that other group and it has scrolled away and I can't seem to get the
>> older messages.
>> "Bert Kinney" <bert@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> Hi Jabez,
>>> See my reply to Dave in Windows.Vista.General.
>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> Member: http://dts-l.org
>>> Jabez Gan [MVP] wrote:
>>>> Hey Dave,
>>>> I got to agree that this is a bad bug in Vista...
>>>> But if you system restore back to the latest state just to retrieve the
>>>> files, does it work?
>>>> Also if you can provide me with full information, I can make sure that
>>>> MS knows about this bug. Feel free to email me with the following
>>>> Description of the problem
>>>> Repro steps
>>>> Your Vista version