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| | Vista and Windows OneCare Live: MASSIVE Problems? Greetings, It can take a week of system settings being tweaked and adjusted in order to get my computer usable. IE7 zone settings, script settings, add-ons checked; then, often uninstalling/reinstalling my important applications and programs, for which I even HAVE a computer in the first place. After having spent some six hours attempting to use my computers this morning (finally running just fine the last couple of days), I discovered that Windows Live OneCare has gone through and "cleaned up" my startup programs, "reset" my Internet Explorer security settings (including the Trusted Zone settings, which allow certain applications to run on my computer), while Windows Update has updated system drivers that I already know cause my laptop computer to hang. Did Windows Live OneCare ask me if I wanted these changes to made on my computer? Did it tell me what it had done (which startup programs were "cleaned up," like my network printing monitor program, which is the only way I can scan and print from my wireless laptop?), or did it even give me an alert when it went through and "reset" my IE7 security settings (including the Trusted Zone, upon which a few of my applications rely in order to even start up)? And did Windows Update let me review which updates I do and don't want installed on my laptop (selecting any setting other than Automatically Download and Install gives an annoying non-green status indicator on Windows OneCare Live, which could then let serious security issues go unnoticed. Hence, you're forced to do Automatic Install, or lose any further alert status from Windows Live OneCare). I've spent more of my life this year researching, adjusting, configuring, protecting and reinstalling my computer thanks to Vista, Windows OneCare Live and their endless changes, updates and driver replacements that keep me and my computers held hostage, and forcing me to pay for the privilege with an unused computer, stealth configuration tactics and live-world testing using my time, equipment and funds. |
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| | Re: Vista and Windows OneCare Live: MASSIVE Problems? I am curious as to why you are using Windows Live One Care. It's not a question, just food for thought. Even in the matter of updates, it is best to let Windows tell you what it wants to install, and then pick from the list. Don't install drivers from Windows upgrade site. Get them from the mfg site. "Vista User" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:69ECF0E5-1175-461B-B679-14D58113FFB5@xxxxxx Quote: > Greetings, > > It can take a week of system settings being tweaked and adjusted in order > to get my computer usable. IE7 zone settings, script settings, add-ons > checked; then, often uninstalling/reinstalling my important applications > and programs, for which I even HAVE a computer in the first place. > > After having spent some six hours attempting to use my computers this > morning (finally running just fine the last couple of days), I discovered > that Windows Live OneCare has gone through and "cleaned up" my startup > programs, "reset" my Internet Explorer security settings (including the > Trusted Zone settings, which allow certain applications to run on my > computer), while Windows Update has updated system drivers that I already > know cause my laptop computer to hang. > > Did Windows Live OneCare ask me if I wanted these changes to made on my > computer? Did it tell me what it had done (which startup programs were > "cleaned up," like my network printing monitor program, which is the only > way I can scan and print from my wireless laptop?), or did it even give me > an alert when it went through and "reset" my IE7 security settings > (including the Trusted Zone, upon which a few of my applications rely in > order to even start up)? And did Windows Update let me review which > updates I do and don't want installed on my laptop (selecting any setting > other than Automatically Download and Install gives an annoying non-green > status indicator on Windows OneCare Live, which could then let serious > security issues go unnoticed. Hence, you're forced to do Automatic > Install, or lose any further alert status from Windows Live OneCare). > > I've spent more of my life this year researching, adjusting, configuring, > protecting and reinstalling my computer thanks to Vista, Windows OneCare > Live and their endless changes, updates and driver replacements that keep > me and my computers held hostage, and forcing me to pay for the privilege > with an unused computer, stealth configuration tactics and live-world > testing using my time, equipment and funds. > > |
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| | Re: Vista and Windows OneCare Live: MASSIVE Problems? "Vista User" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:69ECF0E5-1175-461B-B679-14D58113FFB5@xxxxxx Quote: > Greetings, > > It can take a week of system settings being tweaked and adjusted in order > to get my computer usable. IE7 zone settings, script settings, add-ons > checked; then, often uninstalling/reinstalling my important applications > and programs, for which I even HAVE a computer in the first place. > > After having spent some six hours attempting to use my computers this > morning (finally running just fine the last couple of days), I discovered > that Windows Live OneCare has gone through and "cleaned up" my startup > programs, "reset" my Internet Explorer security settings (including the > Trusted Zone settings, which allow certain applications to run on my > computer), while Windows Update has updated system drivers that I already > know cause my laptop computer to hang. > > Did Windows Live OneCare ask me if I wanted these changes to made on my > computer? Did it tell me what it had done (which startup programs were > "cleaned up," like my network printing monitor program, which is the only > way I can scan and print from my wireless laptop?), or did it even give me > an alert when it went through and "reset" my IE7 security settings > (including the Trusted Zone, upon which a few of my applications rely in > order to even start up)? And did Windows Update let me review which > updates I do and don't want installed on my laptop (selecting any setting > other than Automatically Download and Install gives an annoying non-green > status indicator on Windows OneCare Live, which could then let serious > security issues go unnoticed. Hence, you're forced to do Automatic > Install, or lose any further alert status from Windows Live OneCare). > > I've spent more of my life this year researching, adjusting, configuring, > protecting and reinstalling my computer thanks to Vista, Windows OneCare > Live and their endless changes, updates and driver replacements that keep > me and my computers held hostage, and forcing me to pay for the privilege > with an unused computer, stealth configuration tactics and live-world > testing using my time, equipment and funds. > > "enhancements" to 2.0 at the last minute that even changed the screen saver to the standard Vista MS whatever, 10 minutes timeout, and if you changed it back to something else, next boot WLOC would change it BACK. I went through a very bad time getting "unsubscribed" from WLOC. A new "support web flow" seems to have been "slipstreamed" into the process; in my case, I was asked to allow an active-x control to be installed so that my WLOC installation could be "verified." I wanted to contact Microsoft to cancel my subscription, which HAD to be done over the phone (it doesn't), but COULD NOT FIND A TELEPHONE NUMBER through their webpages that seem to lead in a circular fashion to nowhere, a situation made worse my my WLOC installation being "not detected." Finally MVP Steven Boots helped out in that respect. I expected 2.0 to allow the user a little bit of flexibility; but MS doesn't see it that way. So away it went, I have Avast and it seems to do quite well along with the Vista firewall. Microsoft seems to be using the business model in WLOC, and in Vista, of "let the customer make it work in service." In other words, release it full of "issues" (I love the use of that word now for everything that is a Microsoft PROBLEM). In the WLOC forum you see endless non-answers, that "it should, it might, it could" and little else. WLOC was OK, as integrated into XP in 1.0 and now is a PITA; yellow or red status unless you do things (e.g., url lookups through their "phishing filter" and "automatic updates or die" their way; otherwise green status isn't possible, and the whole color scheme becomes ridiculous. The apologists will all clamor that WLOC is meant for the "average or inexperienced user" but methinks MS understimates its userbase. I'm doing the preparations for "upgrading" from Vista to XP very soon; and yes I gave Vista a chance, since public beta 2. Money wasted big-time for no real gain, just a lot of things rearranged and restricted for no good reason. My favorite Vista program is Acronis backup, a non-Microsoft program. They are one company that somehow wrote software that had no "gotchas" in the backup arena. Bill Halvorsen |
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