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Old 01-07-2008   #1 (permalink)
Richard H O'Keefe


 
 

Installing xp over vista

I bought an Acer with preinstalled Vista.

If I delete the partition, will I be able to install xp on the
computer. Will there be any problems?

Thanks, Richard

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Old 01-07-2008   #2 (permalink)
Malke


 
 

Re: Installing xp over vista

Richard H O'Keefe wrote:
Quote:

> I bought an Acer with preinstalled Vista.
>
> If I delete the partition, will I be able to install xp on the
> computer. Will there be any problems?
>
> Thanks, Richard
You need to do some things first:

1. Go to Acer's (the OEM) website and look for XP drivers for your
specific model computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't
install XP. End of story.

2. Check with Acer - either from their tech support website or by
calling them - to see if you will void your warranty if you do this. If
you will void the warranty, you make the decision.

3. If Acer does support XP on the machine, call them and see if you can
have downgrade rights and have them send you an XP restore disk. This
will be far the easiest and best way of getting XP on the machine.

4. If XP is supported on the machine but Acer won't send you or don't
have an XP restore disk, understand that you'll need to purchase a
retail copy of XP from your favorite online or brick/mortar store.

5. Also understand that you will need to do a clean install of XP so if
you have any data you want, back it up first.

http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows -
What you will need on-hand

6. If none of the above is applicable to you because you can't run XP on
that machine, return the computer and purchase one running XP instead.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
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Old 01-07-2008   #3 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Installing xp over vista

Why not keep Vista? make a new partition, install XP and have a dual boot system.
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Old 01-07-2008   #4 (permalink)
Tom Ferguson


 
 

Re: Installing xp over vista

I suggest you first install XP as a dual boot arrangement with Vista. There
are instructions from various sources on how to do that. Do a Google search.
In particular, make sure it details how to install XP after Vista. The best
way to dial boot the two is to install XP first so make sure you have the
right set of instructions for your situation-XP _after_ Vista. Also, do
consider Malke's suggestions.

E.g.
http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

If, after a while, XP is working well, you can delete the Vista partition
and set up XP as the only system. There are instructions for that, too.

If you have any questions during any part of this, someone here can help, I
am sure.

Good luck.

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007

"Richard H O'Keefe" <richardd4@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47822d1d.3407775@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I bought an Acer with preinstalled Vista.
>
> If I delete the partition, will I be able to install xp on the
> computer. Will there be any problems?
>
> Thanks, Richard
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-07-2008   #5 (permalink)
Malke


 
 

Re: Installing xp over vista

Tom Ferguson wrote:
Quote:

> I suggest you first install XP as a dual boot arrangement with Vista.
> There are instructions from various sources on how to do that. Do a
> Google search. In particular, make sure it details how to install XP
> after Vista. The best way to dial boot the two is to install XP first so
> make sure you have the right set of instructions for your situation-XP
> _after_ Vista. Also, do consider Malke's suggestions.
>
> E.g.
> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp
>
> If, after a while, XP is working well, you can delete the Vista
> partition and set up XP as the only system. There are instructions for
> that, too.
That's a good suggestion, Tom. I also wanted to add that the OP could
look into doing virtual computing (Virtual PC 2007 or VMWare) if he just
needs to run a few apps in XP. This gets around the drivers issue
(depending on the apps of course).


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2008   #6 (permalink)
Richard H O'Keefe


 
 

Re: Installing xp over vista

I want to thank everyone for their advice.

Acer has sold my computer model with the XP OS and with the Vista OS.
I went to Acer and now I have a list of the appropiate drivers.

When my computer was delivered, I received a cd disk labeled "Windows
Anytime Upgrade". The disk was a freebie from Microsoft.

I used this freebie and ran an installation program as a clean
install. The OS system that was installed was Vista Home Basic that
is unstable and requires activation periodically. I could upgrade to
some kind of vista premium for 79 dollars. I don't wnat to upgrade
over the internet and end up with an OS that is no better than a
preinstalled OS. I prefer to install xp and to possess the
installation disk.

I probably damaged what ACER calls the hidden PQSERVICE partition, or
the Master Boot Record. I have lost the ability to use Acer's
recovery program to restore the Acer OEM preinstalled OS. I have lost
Acer's support.

Thanks again,
Richard


On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:49:34 GMT, richardd4@xxxxxx (Richard H
O'Keefe) wrote:
Quote:

>I bought an Acer with preinstalled Vista.
>
>If I delete the partition, will I be able to install xp on the
>computer. Will there be any problems?
>
>Thanks, Richard
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2008   #7 (permalink)
Malke


 
 

Re: Installing xp over vista

Richard H O'Keefe wrote:
Quote:

> I want to thank everyone for their advice.
>
> Acer has sold my computer model with the XP OS and with the Vista OS.
> I went to Acer and now I have a list of the appropiate drivers.
>
> When my computer was delivered, I received a cd disk labeled "Windows
> Anytime Upgrade". The disk was a freebie from Microsoft.
>
> I used this freebie and ran an installation program as a clean
> install. The OS system that was installed was Vista Home Basic that
> is unstable and requires activation periodically. I could upgrade to
> some kind of vista premium for 79 dollars. I don't wnat to upgrade
> over the internet and end up with an OS that is no better than a
> preinstalled OS. I prefer to install xp and to possess the
> installation disk.
>
> I probably damaged what ACER calls the hidden PQSERVICE partition, or
> the Master Boot Record. I have lost the ability to use Acer's
> recovery program to restore the Acer OEM preinstalled OS. I have lost
> Acer's support.
If you know for a fact that you have lost Acer's support (and IMO they
are pigs for doing this but there's nothing you can do about their
attitude) and you know for sure that you can't do a restore to factory
condition from the hidden partition, then purchase a retail copy of XP
and do a clean install. After the operating system is installed, then
use all the XP drivers you got from Acer and you'll have a working
computer again.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2008   #8 (permalink)
Richard H O'Keefe


 
 

Re: Installing xp over vista

Thanks, that's my intention.

Richard

On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:52:08 -0800, Malke <notreally@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>Richard H O'Keefe wrote:
Quote:

>> I want to thank everyone for their advice.
>>
>> Acer has sold my computer model with the XP OS and with the Vista OS.
>> I went to Acer and now I have a list of the appropiate drivers.
>>
>> When my computer was delivered, I received a cd disk labeled "Windows
>> Anytime Upgrade". The disk was a freebie from Microsoft.
>>
>> I used this freebie and ran an installation program as a clean
>> install. The OS system that was installed was Vista Home Basic that
>> is unstable and requires activation periodically. I could upgrade to
>> some kind of vista premium for 79 dollars. I don't wnat to upgrade
>> over the internet and end up with an OS that is no better than a
>> preinstalled OS. I prefer to install xp and to possess the
>> installation disk.
>>
>> I probably damaged what ACER calls the hidden PQSERVICE partition, or
>> the Master Boot Record. I have lost the ability to use Acer's
>> recovery program to restore the Acer OEM preinstalled OS. I have lost
>> Acer's support.
>
>If you know for a fact that you have lost Acer's support (and IMO they
>are pigs for doing this but there's nothing you can do about their
>attitude) and you know for sure that you can't do a restore to factory
>condition from the hidden partition, then purchase a retail copy of XP
>and do a clean install. After the operating system is installed, then
>use all the XP drivers you got from Acer and you'll have a working
>computer again.
>
>
>Malke
>--
>Elephant Boy Computers
>www.elephantboycomputers.com
>"Don't Panic!"
>MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-20-2008   #9 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate x32
 
 

Re: Installing xp over vista

I have just completed this dual-boot install and everything seems to work fine. I'm rolling back to XP gradually on one system, seems to be better for playing about with system settings.
Will still keep the Desktop as Vista though.
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