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Old 02-13-2008   #1 (permalink)
Max
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Who keep metadata from XP ?

Hi people,

In Windows XP we can create metadata for all type of file (right click on a
file then properties\summary)

but when you transfer a file from XP to Vista all those metadata are been
deleted ! so how can we keep it ? (and edit them under vista)

Thx a lot


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Old 02-13-2008   #2 (permalink)
Richard G. Harper
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Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

Metadata is stored by the file system, not with the file. As such it cannot
be transferred between systems.

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"Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi people,
>
> In Windows XP we can create metadata for all type of file (right click on
> a file then properties\summary)
>
> but when you transfer a file from XP to Vista all those metadata are been
> deleted ! so how can we keep it ? (and edit them under vista)
>
> Thx a lot
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-13-2008   #3 (permalink)
Gary Mount
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Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

You will find the information under the "Details" tab instead of a "Summary'
tab.
Also, you have to use the NTFS in order to keep the meta data. If you copy
onto a fat32, or other none NTFS location, the meta data does not copy over.

"Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4C5DF495-72F6-4B06-98A1-060A702242E5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi people,
>
> In Windows XP we can create metadata for all type of file (right click on
> a file then properties\summary)
>
> but when you transfer a file from XP to Vista all those metadata are been
> deleted ! so how can we keep it ? (and edit them under vista)
>
> Thx a lot
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-13-2008   #4 (permalink)
Max
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Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

"Metadata is stored by the file system, not with the file. As such it
cannot
be transferred between systems."

Ho ok
but when I read a file (how hosted on a XP machine) with another XP machine
I can access to the NTFS metadata anyways, there are a way to enable this in
vista ?




"You will find the information under the "Details" tab instead of a
"Summary' tab.
Also, you have to use the NTFS in order to keep the meta data. If you copy
onto a fat32, or other none NTFS location, the meta data does not copy
over."

Yeah, of course the target folder is also in NTFS format, so "normally" Its
keep the metadata but with Vista no



..There are any solution to keep those ntfs metadata on Vista ?
..why Microsoft as not implemented this function ?


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Old 02-13-2008   #5 (permalink)
Gary Mount
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Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

I did a test of copying a file with some added information I made in the
Summary. The information copied over from an XP machine onto a Vista machine
without losing the data.



"Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Metadata is stored by the file system, not with the file. As such it
> cannot
> be transferred between systems."
>
> Ho ok
> but when I read a file (how hosted on a XP machine) with another XP
> machine I can access to the NTFS metadata anyways, there are a way to
> enable this in vista ?
>
>
>
>
> "You will find the information under the "Details" tab instead of a
> "Summary' tab.
> Also, you have to use the NTFS in order to keep the meta data. If you copy
> onto a fat32, or other none NTFS location, the meta data does not copy
> over."
>
> Yeah, of course the target folder is also in NTFS format, so "normally"
> Its keep the metadata but with Vista no
>
>
>
> .There are any solution to keep those ntfs metadata on Vista ?
> .why Microsoft as not implemented this function ?
>
>
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Old 02-13-2008   #6 (permalink)
Max
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Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

what was the file type ?
because I think some are supported by vista, I have myself try with .exe and
..txt and don't work

So tell me which file type and I will try the same.

thx a lot.
Quote:

> I did a test of copying a file with some added information I made in the
> Summary. The information copied over from an XP machine onto a Vista
> machine without losing the data.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-13-2008   #7 (permalink)
Gary Mount
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Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

I used a jpg file to do my test. .txt files do not have meta data that I can
edit anyway.

"Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> what was the file type ?
> because I think some are supported by vista, I have myself try with .exe
> and .txt and don't work
>
> So tell me which file type and I will try the same.
>
> thx a lot.
>
Quote:

>> I did a test of copying a file with some added information I made in the
>> Summary. The information copied over from an XP machine onto a Vista
>> machine without losing the data.
>
>
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Old 02-13-2008   #8 (permalink)
Gary Mount
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Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

Here is a link to more information about metadata...
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897440.aspx

It seems to really be "alternate data streams of information."

"Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4C5DF495-72F6-4B06-98A1-060A702242E5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi people,
>
> In Windows XP we can create metadata for all type of file (right click on
> a file then properties\summary)
>
> but when you transfer a file from XP to Vista all those metadata are been
> deleted ! so how can we keep it ? (and edit them under vista)
>
> Thx a lot
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-13-2008   #9 (permalink)
Gary Mount
Guest


 

Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

After some testing, the .jpg file does not appear to have this alternate
stream that contains this metadata.


"Gary Mount" <gary_mount@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Here is a link to more information about metadata...
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897440.aspx
>
> It seems to really be "alternate data streams of information."
>
> "Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:4C5DF495-72F6-4B06-98A1-060A702242E5@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi people,
>>
>> In Windows XP we can create metadata for all type of file (right click on
>> a file then properties\summary)
>>
>> but when you transfer a file from XP to Vista all those metadata are been
>> deleted ! so how can we keep it ? (and edit them under vista)
>>
>> Thx a lot
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-13-2008   #10 (permalink)
Gary Mount
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Re: Who keep metadata from XP ?

I have been doing some further experimenting. using a .jpg file with some
comments I added, even when I copy the file to a fat formatted volume, the
data I added is still retained.
I would like to test this on a word document, but I haven't installed office
on my system yet. (I recently had to reinstall my O/S after accidently
reformatting my hard drive).

"Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4C5DF495-72F6-4B06-98A1-060A702242E5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi people,
>
> In Windows XP we can create metadata for all type of file (right click on
> a file then properties\summary)
>
> but when you transfer a file from XP to Vista all those metadata are been
> deleted ! so how can we keep it ? (and edit them under vista)
>
> Thx a lot
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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