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| | Re: Problem with folder layout inheritance In Vista, 'Apply to Folders' now works on a per-template basis: All Items, Documents, Pictures, Music Icons, Music Details & Videos can each have different default settings. So you'll need to use 'Apply to Folders' once for each folder type. 'Apply to Folders' sets per-user defaults for the various folder types, but Explorer will still try to auto-sense the best type to use based on content. Perhaps you have set 'All Items' to your liking but some folders have either auto-sensed to Documents or some other template. Using the 'Also apply this template to all subfolders' option (found on the 'Customize' tab of the folder's Properties dialog) should apply the template of your choice to all subfolders of a given folder. However, you also mention folders migrated from XP. These could contain a desktop.ini file (normally flagged Hidden & System, so you have to set Explorer view settings accordingly to find them) which is specifying a folder template. So look for that in misbehaving folders. P.S. You're not the Keith Howard, CPA from Herrin, IL - are you? -- Good Luck, Keith Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User] "Keith Howard" <KeithHoward@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:673D3B96-46DB-43A4-BC07-2FD8A737829A@xxxxxx Quote: > Vista has more powerful capabilities than XP at specifying folder layout > (e.g. width in pixels, via View | Choose Details...). However, Tools | > Folder > Options... | View | Apply to Folders does not seem to inherit to certain > folders. I’m not sure, but it seems that folders that have been migrated > from > XP do not inherit the layout specified on new folders in Vista, even if > they > are below in the hierarchy when the Apply to Folders command is selected. > > Does anyone know of how to get around this, e.g. to force to application > of > the layout to all folders? Is there a command line utility that I can use? > I > understand that CACLS is used for folder permissions. I don’t think this > is a > permissions problem, but perhaps CACLS is relevant. |
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| | Re: Problem with folder layout inheritance Keith M., Thanks for the advice. I have experimented with your thoughts, and I now have the inherited view that was looking for, but the inheritance feature seems a bit flakey (or at least not intuitive). The technique that you mention in your paragraph 3 (Also apply this teplate to all subfolders) does not seem to work reliably for me. I understand that this is native Vista functionality. I sometimes need to go into what seems to be XP compatibility functionality (Tools, Folder Options, View, Apply to Folders), to get the desired result, and sometimes even this does not work. I also flail around and try both, but I can't find a reliable behavioural pattern. Also, you mention ini files. Note that I checked and I do not have any ini files between the level at which I am setting the inheritance and the level further down below where the lack of conformance problem reared its head. Also, a semi-solution that seemed to work for me is not to set the default at the top level Documents folders. Instead, I set the defaults repeatedly in each of my several folders 1 level below the Documents folder. It seems like a round-about approach, but it sort of seems to work. Thanks for your feedback. Regs, Keith H. P.S. (Alas, I am not the Keith Howard that you seem to know! I am from NYC and live in London...) "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote: Quote: > In Vista, 'Apply to Folders' now works on a per-template basis: All Items, > Documents, Pictures, Music Icons, Music Details & Videos can each have > different default settings. So you'll need to use 'Apply to Folders' once > for each folder type. > > 'Apply to Folders' sets per-user defaults for the various folder types, but > Explorer will still try to auto-sense the best type to use based on content. > > Perhaps you have set 'All Items' to your liking but some folders have either > auto-sensed to Documents or some other template. Using the 'Also apply this > template to all subfolders' option (found on the 'Customize' tab of the > folder's Properties dialog) should apply the template of your choice to all > subfolders of a given folder. > > However, you also mention folders migrated from XP. These could contain a > desktop.ini file (normally flagged Hidden & System, so you have to set > Explorer view settings accordingly to find them) which is specifying a > folder template. So look for that in misbehaving folders. > > P.S. You're not the Keith Howard, CPA from Herrin, IL - are you? > > > -- > Good Luck, > > Keith > Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User] > > > > "Keith Howard" <KeithHoward@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:673D3B96-46DB-43A4-BC07-2FD8A737829A@xxxxxx Quote: > > Vista has more powerful capabilities than XP at specifying folder layout > > (e.g. width in pixels, via View | Choose Details...). However, Tools | > > Folder > > Options... | View | Apply to Folders does not seem to inherit to certain > > folders. I’m not sure, but it seems that folders that have been migrated > > from > > XP do not inherit the layout specified on new folders in Vista, even if > > they > > are below in the hierarchy when the Apply to Folders command is selected. > > > > Does anyone know of how to get around this, e.g. to force to application > > of > > the layout to all folders? Is there a command line utility that I can use? > > I > > understand that CACLS is used for folder permissions. I don’t think this > > is a > > permissions problem, but perhaps CACLS is relevant. |
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| | Re: Problem with folder layout inheritance Keith M., Thanks for the advice. I have experimented with your thoughts, and I now have the inherited view that was looking for, but the inheritance feature seems a bit flakey (or at least not intuitive). The technique that you mention in your paragraph 3 (Also apply this teplate to all subfolders) does not seem to work reliably for me. I understand that this is native Vista functionality. I sometimes need to go into what seems to be XP compatibility functionality (Tools, Folder Options, View, Apply to Folders), to get the desired result, and sometimes even this does not work. I also flail around and try both, but I can't find a reliable behavioural pattern. Also, you mention ini files. Note that I checked and I do not have any ini files between the level at which I am setting the inheritance and the level further down below where the lack of conformance problem reared its head. Also, a semi-solution that seemed to work for me is not to set the default at the top level Documents folders. Instead, I set the defaults repeatedly in each of my several folders 1 level below the Documents folder. It seems like a round-about approach, but it sort of seems to work. Thanks for your feedback. Regs, Keith H. P.S. (Alas, I am not the Keith Howard that you seem to know! I am from NYC and live in London...) =========== "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote: Quote: > In Vista, 'Apply to Folders' now works on a per-template basis: All Items, > Documents, Pictures, Music Icons, Music Details & Videos can each have > different default settings. So you'll need to use 'Apply to Folders' once > for each folder type. > > 'Apply to Folders' sets per-user defaults for the various folder types, but > Explorer will still try to auto-sense the best type to use based on content. > > Perhaps you have set 'All Items' to your liking but some folders have either > auto-sensed to Documents or some other template. Using the 'Also apply this > template to all subfolders' option (found on the 'Customize' tab of the > folder's Properties dialog) should apply the template of your choice to all > subfolders of a given folder. > > However, you also mention folders migrated from XP. These could contain a > desktop.ini file (normally flagged Hidden & System, so you have to set > Explorer view settings accordingly to find them) which is specifying a > folder template. So look for that in misbehaving folders. > > P.S. You're not the Keith Howard, CPA from Herrin, IL - are you? > > > -- > Good Luck, > > Keith > Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User] > > > > "Keith Howard" <KeithHoward@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:673D3B96-46DB-43A4-BC07-2FD8A737829A@xxxxxx Quote: > > Vista has more powerful capabilities than XP at specifying folder layout > > (e.g. width in pixels, via View | Choose Details...). However, Tools | > > Folder > > Options... | View | Apply to Folders does not seem to inherit to certain > > folders. I’m not sure, but it seems that folders that have been migrated > > from > > XP do not inherit the layout specified on new folders in Vista, even if > > they > > are below in the hierarchy when the Apply to Folders command is selected. > > > > Does anyone know of how to get around this, e.g. to force to application > > of > > the layout to all folders? Is there a command line utility that I can use? > > I > > understand that CACLS is used for folder permissions. I don’t think this > > is a > > permissions problem, but perhaps CACLS is relevant. |
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| Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Re: Problem with folder layout inheritance Keith M., Thanks for the advice. I have experimented with your thoughts, and I now have the inherited view that was looking for, but the inheritance feature seems a bit flakey (or at least not intuitive). The technique that you mention in your paragraph 3 (Also apply this teplate to all subfolders) does not seem to work reliably for me. I understand that this is native Vista functionality. I sometimes need to go into what seems to be XP compatibility functionality (Tools, Folder Options, View, Apply to Folders), to get the desired result, and sometimes even this does not work. I also flail around and try both, but I can't find a reliable behavioural pattern. Also, you mention ini files. Note that I checked and I do not have any ini files between the level at which I am setting the inheritance and the level further down below where the lack of conformance problem reared its head. Also, a semi-solution that seemed to work for me is not to set the default at the top level Documents folders. Instead, I set the defaults repeatedly in each of my several folders 1 level below the Documents folder. It seems like a round-about approach, but it sort of seems to work. Thanks for your feedback. Regs, Keith H. P.S. (Alas, I am not the Keith Howard that you seem to know! I am from NYC and live in London...) =========== "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote: Quote: > In Vista, 'Apply to Folders' now works on a per-template basis: All Items, > Documents, Pictures, Music Icons, Music Details & Videos can each have > different default settings. So you'll need to use 'Apply to Folders' once > for each folder type. > > 'Apply to Folders' sets per-user defaults for the various folder types, but > Explorer will still try to auto-sense the best type to use based on content. > > Perhaps you have set 'All Items' to your liking but some folders have either > auto-sensed to Documents or some other template. Using the 'Also apply this > template to all subfolders' option (found on the 'Customize' tab of the > folder's Properties dialog) should apply the template of your choice to all > subfolders of a given folder. > > However, you also mention folders migrated from XP. These could contain a > desktop.ini file (normally flagged Hidden & System, so you have to set > Explorer view settings accordingly to find them) which is specifying a > folder template. So look for that in misbehaving folders. > > P.S. You're not the Keith Howard, CPA from Herrin, IL - are you? > > > -- > Good Luck, > > Keith > Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User] > > > > "Keith Howard" <KeithHoward@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:673D3B96-46DB-43A4-BC07-2FD8A737829A@xxxxxx > This may be able to help you some to. Windows Explorer Folder View settings and Windows Explorer - Folder Type Templates Shawn |
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