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Old 06-20-2008   #11 (permalink)
Sushil Baid [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

vista file backup are placed under x:\<your-machine-name> folder
vista complete pc backup are placed under x:\windowsimagebackup folder

HTH

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"bullred" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> yup---i noticed this to this past week. i get a little taskbar message
> saying "did not backup today" something to that effect.(i'm at work on
> XP so I don't remember the exact quote from my Vista).
>
> i have a 200 gig internal storage fat32 drive i use between vista and
> linux. i knew it was half full but was not aware it was backing up that
> much stuff. which was only my documents,pics, and some mp3's. it has 70
> megs of space left---thats megs,not gigs!
>
> problem is, since this is just a storage drive, i can't find where the
> backups are---yet it's full. anybody know what file i'd be looking
> for---like .bu or something? i can't find'em. prolly just haveing a bald
> moment week. anyway---where are my backups on this full drive? thx yall
>
>
>
> --
> bullred

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Old 06-20-2008   #12 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

thanks sushil....

yes, i finally found the backups under the PC name on the Fat32 drive. i guess i wasen't aware the PC name would appear on my backup drives as well. i was looking on the C drive. DOh! yea -and i had like weekly 22gig backups for the last 5 or 6 weeks. that'll fill it up. i deleted all except the latest. like in another thread here, i wish Vista would automatically delete older backups.
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Old 06-23-2008   #13 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by bullred View Post
thanks sushil....

yes, i finally found the backups under the PC name on the Fat32 drive. i guess i wasen't aware the PC name would appear on my backup drives as well. i was looking on the C drive. DOh! yea -and i had like weekly 22gig backups for the last 5 or 6 weeks. that'll fill it up. i deleted all except the latest. like in another thread here, i wish Vista would automatically delete older backups.
Thanks for the offer, but I don't need to do a full backup now. But, this is a common problem. It wants the whole space of the volume (C:/). But only uses a much smaller amount. For example, I have folders out side of my C drive that windows does not back up. Also the MC dvr-ms files are not backup either. I can have many GB of dvr-ms files. Last time I had the problem. Complete backup wanted about 350GBs and used something like 74. Before I deleted what I had on my backup destination drive, I received an error that the volume had not enough space. But like I said, many many other people have the same problem because it is on every Vista OS with complete backup. I don't use the command prompt. I am using the Complete Backup GUI.

You could help me with one thing. My power plan keeps changing back to " Turn Display off in 20 minutes". I set it back to " Turn Display off display never" and turn off the hard drives. And it goes back to 20 minutes again and again. On 3 computers I have Vista on. It may take a few days, but it happens again and again. Is there a regedit fix to force my custom settings?
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Old 06-23-2008   #14 (permalink)
Sushil Baid [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

delete backup funtionality is planned in window7 UI. it will provide user
option to delete older backups. but will not auto delete older backups. will
that work for you?

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"bullred" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> thanks sushil....
>
> yes, i finally found the backups under the PC name on the Fat32 drive.
> i guess i wasen't aware the PC name would appear on my backup drives as
> well. i was looking on the C drive. DOh! yea -and i had like weekly
> 22gig backups for the last 5 or 6 weeks. that'll fill it up. i deleted
> all except the latest. like in another thread here, i wish Vista would
> automatically delete older backups.
>
>
> --
> bullred
>
> Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
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Old 06-23-2008   #15 (permalink)
Sushil Baid [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

hello,

i wanted to make sure that you are using complete pc backup, and not basic
file backup. are you using backup UI and using "complete pc backup" flow?

why i am asking this is because
complete pc backup does not exclude any files on a volume except
hiberfile.sys/pagefile.sys and at times - vss diff area areas files. hence,
backup should contain all the files on the c:. only reason - you should
disparity between estimate and actual backup size - is order of size of the
above files. but order of disparity mentioned by you below is huge. hence, i
am trying to get few details like i mentioned in my previous reply. can you
pl provide those details?

ps/ complete pc backups are placed in "windowsimagebackup" folder on the
backup drive.
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"chuckbam" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> bullred;752913 Wrote:
Quote:

>> thanks sushil....
>>
>> yes, i finally found the backups under the PC name on the Fat32 drive.
>> i guess i wasen't aware the PC name would appear on my backup drives as
>> well. i was looking on the C drive. DOh! yea -and i had like weekly
>> 22gig backups for the last 5 or 6 weeks. that'll fill it up. i deleted
>> all except the latest. like in another thread here, i wish Vista would
>> automatically delete older backups.
>
> Thanks for the offer, but I don't need to do a full backup now. But,
> this is a common problem. It wants the whole space of the volume (C:/).
> But only uses a much smaller amount. For example, I have folders out
> side of my C drive that windows does not back up. Also the MC dvr-ms
> files are not backup either. I can have many GB of dvr-ms files. Last
> time I had the problem. Complete backup wanted about 350GBs and used
> something like 74. Before I deleted what I had on my backup destination
> drive, I received an error that the volume had not enough space. But
> like I said, many many other people have the same problem because it is
> on every Vista OS with complete backup. I don't use the command prompt.
> I am using the Complete Backup GUI.
>
> You could help me with one thing. My power plan keeps changing back to
> " Turn Display off in 20 minutes". I set it back to " Turn Display off
> display never" and turn off the hard drives. And it goes back to 20
> minutes again and again. On 3 computers I have Vista on. It may take a
> few days, but it happens again and again. Is there a regedit fix to
> force my custom settings?
>
>
> --
> chuckbam
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Old 06-23-2008   #16 (permalink)
Sushil Baid [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

regarding the power setting - i am not the right person. i will post the
query to relevant product team and see if they can resolve it.

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"chuckbam" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> bullred;752913 Wrote:
Quote:

>> thanks sushil....
>>
>> yes, i finally found the backups under the PC name on the Fat32 drive.
>> i guess i wasen't aware the PC name would appear on my backup drives as
>> well. i was looking on the C drive. DOh! yea -and i had like weekly
>> 22gig backups for the last 5 or 6 weeks. that'll fill it up. i deleted
>> all except the latest. like in another thread here, i wish Vista would
>> automatically delete older backups.
>
> Thanks for the offer, but I don't need to do a full backup now. But,
> this is a common problem. It wants the whole space of the volume (C:/).
> But only uses a much smaller amount. For example, I have folders out
> side of my C drive that windows does not back up. Also the MC dvr-ms
> files are not backup either. I can have many GB of dvr-ms files. Last
> time I had the problem. Complete backup wanted about 350GBs and used
> something like 74. Before I deleted what I had on my backup destination
> drive, I received an error that the volume had not enough space. But
> like I said, many many other people have the same problem because it is
> on every Vista OS with complete backup. I don't use the command prompt.
> I am using the Complete Backup GUI.
>
> You could help me with one thing. My power plan keeps changing back to
> " Turn Display off in 20 minutes". I set it back to " Turn Display off
> display never" and turn off the hard drives. And it goes back to 20
> minutes again and again. On 3 computers I have Vista on. It may take a
> few days, but it happens again and again. Is there a regedit fix to
> force my custom settings?
>
>
> --
> chuckbam
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Old 06-23-2008   #17 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

Tanks Sushil !
Nice to see you on the board. I think the 20 min power reset is when you install new update, do a system restore or maybe even install DirecX. I just thought it is MS trying to keep the OS green. That is fine with me. There are other things I don't like about Vista, but, accept them and try to work around or disable etc. Like UAC and Indexing. But, if there is a way to edit my custom setting to a default- that would be great. Overall- I am a big fan of Vista.

One more thing, I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit with 8 GBs of memory. I know the OS is rated to use this amount of memory. But, I think it never addresses all the memory. On some test, I believe it started page filing before it used 6 GBs of my 8GBs. Any tweaks for memory management to address all 8 GBs. My motherboard and the OS see all 8 GBs so it is nothing dumb like that. I have been looking at this for many months.

Last edited by chuckbam; 06-23-2008 at 11:34 PM..
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Old 06-28-2008   #18 (permalink)
Sushil Baid [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

did you mean to say -- system restore is resetting power settings?

i got one more suggestion internally - pl check whether there is domain
policy enforcing pwoer settings?

If you look in the Power Options UI, you'll see the following:

"some settings are managed by your system administrators".

again for the other query - i am not the right person. if you have specific
set of repro steps for the memory issues - i can pass to right team.


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this information is provided as-is without any warranties, implicit or
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"chuckbam" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> Tanks Sushil !
> Nice to see you on the board. I think the 20 min power reset is when
> you install new update, do a system restore or maybe even install
> DirecX. I just thought it is MS trying to keep the OS green. That is
> fine with me. There are other things I don't like about Vista, but,
> accept them and try to work around or disable etc. Like UAC and
> Indexing. But, if there is a way to edit my custom setting to a default-
> that would be great. Overall- I am a big fan of Vista.
>
> One more thing, I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit with 8 GBs of memory. I
> know the OS is rated to use this amount of memory. But, I think it never
> addresses all the memory. On some test, I believe it started page filing
> before it used 2/3 of my 8GBs. Any tweaks for memory management to
> address all 8 GBs. My motherboard and the OS see all 8 GBs so it is
> nothing dumb like that. I have been looking at this for many months.
>
>
> --
> chuckbam
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Old 06-29-2008   #19 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Sushil Baid [MSFT] View Post
did you mean to say -- system restore is resetting power settings?

i got one more suggestion internally - pl check whether there is domain
policy enforcing pwoer settings?

If you look in the Power Options UI, you'll see the following:

"some settings are managed by your system administrators".

again for the other query - i am not the right person. if you have specific
set of repro steps for the memory issues - i can pass to right team.


--
-sushil [MSFT]
this information is provided as-is without any warranties, implicit or
explicit.
"chuckbam" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
>
> Tanks Sushil !
> Nice to see you on the board. I think the 20 min power reset is when
> you install new update, do a system restore or maybe even install
> DirecX. I just thought it is MS trying to keep the OS green. That is
> fine with me. There are other things I don't like about Vista, but,
> accept them and try to work around or disable etc. Like UAC and
> Indexing. But, if there is a way to edit my custom setting to a default-
> that would be great. Overall- I am a big fan of Vista.
>
> One more thing, I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit with 8 GBs of memory. I
> know the OS is rated to use this amount of memory. But, I think it never
> addresses all the memory. On some test, I believe it started page filing
> before it used 2/3 of my 8GBs. Any tweaks for memory management to
> address all 8 GBs. My motherboard and the OS see all 8 GBs so it is
> nothing dumb like that. I have been looking at this for many months.
>
>
> --
> chuckbam
no, I think it is Windows Update.
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Old 06-29-2008   #20 (permalink)


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Re: Vista Complete PC Backup (0x80780048) Not Enough Space?

I don't have the "some settings are managed by your system administrators".
I am the administrators.

Just last week I had to change it back to my settings of never turn off Display andturn off hard drive ... This is not my first installation on this computer and it is not the only Vista computer I have seen this with. I am not going nuts. I think it is a MS Green thing. It wants to be set as turn off display in 20 min. No HD power management.





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