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Can't see files in some folders

  1. #1


    TheBlueSky Guest

    Can't see files in some folders

    Hi all,

    I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some files
    on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates some
    folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g. C:\Program
    Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.

    These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able to
    access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they are
    not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have the
    option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I can't
    see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    couldn't even find them by searching!

    This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    folders instead of Program Files.

    I appreciate any help on that.

    Thanks in advance.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #2


    Bob Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders


    For Yahoo Messenger you'll need a 3rd party Archive Decoder.
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...er&btnG=Search

    Maybe the same for eMule.
    -------
    *Report back, please*
    [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying to so
    that others may learn and benefit from the issue]

    [How to ask a question]
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

    "TheBlueSky" <TheBlueSky@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:2A30B9C2-D2A8-4437-8A58-9DA41F5E3881@xxxxxx

    > Hi all,
    >
    > I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some
    > files
    > on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates
    > some
    > folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g.
    > C:\Program
    > Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.
    >
    > These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able to
    > access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they
    > are
    > not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have the
    > option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I
    > can't
    > see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    > couldn't even find them by searching!
    >
    > This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    > other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    > version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    > folders instead of Program Files.
    >
    > I appreciate any help on that.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Keith Miller \(MVP\) Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders

    In Explorer, when you navigate to:

    'C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger'

    You should see a button in the toolbar labeled 'Compatibility files'. Click
    that & you will be taken to:

    'C:\Users\<UserName>AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
    Files\Yahoo!\Messenger'

    Which is where Vista redirects programs that attempt to write to the Program
    Files directory.

    --
    Good Luck,

    Keith
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



    "TheBlueSky" <TheBlueSky@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:2A30B9C2-D2A8-4437-8A58-9DA41F5E3881@xxxxxx

    > Hi all,
    >
    > I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some
    > files
    > on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates
    > some
    > folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g.
    > C:\Program
    > Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.
    >
    > These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able to
    > access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they
    > are
    > not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have the
    > option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I
    > can't
    > see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    > couldn't even find them by searching!
    >
    > This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    > other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    > version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    > folders instead of Program Files.
    >
    > I appreciate any help on that.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #4


    Ronnie Vernon MVP Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders

    BlueSky

    This behavior is because these programs are not compatible with the way
    Vista treats restricted folders, such as 'Program Files'.

    When you open one of the folders where the files are saved, look for a
    "Compatible Files" button on the Windows Explorer Command Bar. When you
    click the compatibily files button, this will open the folder where the
    files are saved.

    The usual location will be:
    C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\

    *Note: These folders are hidden, by default. To make them visible, Open
    Organize\Folder and Search Options\View Tab. Select the 'Show hidden files
    and folders' option. Apply/OK.

    This whole process is called 'File and Folder Virtualization' and is there
    to allow non-Vista compatible programs to work properly.

    --

    Ronnie Vernon
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "TheBlueSky" <TheBlueSky@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:2A30B9C2-D2A8-4437-8A58-9DA41F5E3881@xxxxxx

    > Hi all,
    >
    > I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some
    > files
    > on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates
    > some
    > folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g.
    > C:\Program
    > Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.
    >
    > These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able to
    > access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they
    > are
    > not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have the
    > option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I
    > can't
    > see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    > couldn't even find them by searching!
    >
    > This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    > other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    > version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    > folders instead of Program Files.
    >
    > I appreciate any help on that.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    TheBlueSky Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders

    Yahoo and eMule were just an example for applications that store some files
    on Program Files folder that I can't see in Windows Explorer. I know they are
    somewhere there and I can access them from the application who wrote them,
    but again, not from Windows Explorer, and my question was about where they
    are stored.

    "Bob" wrote:

    >
    > For Yahoo Messenger you'll need a 3rd party Archive Decoder.
    > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...er&btnG=Search
    >
    > Maybe the same for eMule.
    > -------
    > *Report back, please*
    > [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying to so
    > that others may learn and benefit from the issue]
    >
    > [How to ask a question]
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
    >
    > "TheBlueSky" <TheBlueSky@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:2A30B9C2-D2A8-4437-8A58-9DA41F5E3881@xxxxxx

    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some
    > > files
    > > on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates
    > > some
    > > folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g.
    > > C:\Program
    > > Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.
    > >
    > > These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able to
    > > access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they
    > > are
    > > not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have the
    > > option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I
    > > can't
    > > see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    > > couldn't even find them by searching!
    > >
    > > This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    > > other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    > > version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    > > folders instead of Program Files.
    > >
    > > I appreciate any help on that.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance.
    >
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6


    TheBlueSky Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders

    Thanks, that was helpful

    "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:

    > In Explorer, when you navigate to:
    >
    > 'C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger'
    >
    > You should see a button in the toolbar labeled 'Compatibility files'. Click
    > that & you will be taken to:
    >
    > 'C:\Users\<UserName>AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
    > Files\Yahoo!\Messenger'
    >
    > Which is where Vista redirects programs that attempt to write to the Program
    > Files directory.
    >
    > --
    > Good Luck,
    >
    > Keith
    > Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
    >
    >
    >
    > "TheBlueSky" <TheBlueSky@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:2A30B9C2-D2A8-4437-8A58-9DA41F5E3881@xxxxxx

    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some
    > > files
    > > on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates
    > > some
    > > folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g.
    > > C:\Program
    > > Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.
    > >
    > > These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able to
    > > access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they
    > > are
    > > not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have the
    > > option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I
    > > can't
    > > see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    > > couldn't even find them by searching!
    > >
    > > This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    > > other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    > > version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    > > folders instead of Program Files.
    > >
    > > I appreciate any help on that.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance.
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #7


    TheBlueSky Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders

    Thanks

    "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

    > BlueSky
    >
    > This behavior is because these programs are not compatible with the way
    > Vista treats restricted folders, such as 'Program Files'.
    >
    > When you open one of the folders where the files are saved, look for a
    > "Compatible Files" button on the Windows Explorer Command Bar. When you
    > click the compatibily files button, this will open the folder where the
    > files are saved.
    >
    > The usual location will be:
    > C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\
    >
    > *Note: These folders are hidden, by default. To make them visible, Open
    > Organize\Folder and Search Options\View Tab. Select the 'Show hidden files
    > and folders' option. Apply/OK.
    >
    > This whole process is called 'File and Folder Virtualization' and is there
    > to allow non-Vista compatible programs to work properly.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Ronnie Vernon
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Desktop Experience
    >
    >
    > "TheBlueSky" <TheBlueSky@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:2A30B9C2-D2A8-4437-8A58-9DA41F5E3881@xxxxxx

    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some
    > > files
    > > on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates
    > > some
    > > folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g.
    > > C:\Program
    > > Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.
    > >
    > > These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able to
    > > access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they
    > > are
    > > not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have the
    > > option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I
    > > can't
    > > see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    > > couldn't even find them by searching!
    > >
    > > This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    > > other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    > > version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    > > folders instead of Program Files.
    > >
    > > I appreciate any help on that.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance.
    >
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #8


    Les Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders

    " Keith Miller (MVP)" <k.miller@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:E68721E4-B983-4710-8704-7AF367024A9F@xxxxxx

    > In Explorer, when you navigate to:
    >
    > 'C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger'
    >
    > You should see a button in the toolbar labeled 'Compatibility files'.
    > Click that & you will be taken to:
    >
    > 'C:\Users\<UserName>AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
    > Files\Yahoo!\Messenger'
    >
    > Which is where Vista redirects programs that attempt to write to the
    > Program Files directory.
    >
    > --
    > Good Luck,
    >
    > Keith
    > Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
    >
    >
    >
    > "TheBlueSky" <TheBlueSky@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:2A30B9C2-D2A8-4437-8A58-9DA41F5E3881@xxxxxx

    >> Hi all,
    >>
    >> I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some
    >> files
    >> on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates
    >> some
    >> folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g.
    >> C:\Program
    >> Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.
    >>
    >> These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able
    >> to
    >> access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they
    >> are
    >> not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have the
    >> option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I
    >> can't
    >> see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    >> couldn't even find them by searching!
    >>
    >> This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    >> other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    >> version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    >> folders instead of Program Files.
    >>
    >> I appreciate any help on that.
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance.
    >

    A good hint, but I can't find it on my Vista Ultimate. I have several
    programmes that use the
    'C:\Users\<UserName>AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program to store data - Opera
    browser for example.

    When I navigate to the Opera folder in Explorer, there is no button that you
    described, and no menu items suggestive of it either

    Is there an option somewhere that I need to switch on to see what you
    describe?

    --
    regards,
    Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland


      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #9


    Keith Miller \(MVP\) Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders

    Are there any subfolders to the Opera folder? In the example I gave, there
    is no 'Compatibility Files' button in the Yahoo! folder, only in the
    Yahoo!\Messenger folder.

    The button shows up in the folder where the file save was directed, i.e..

    'C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\plug_ins3d\prc'

    --
    Good Luck,

    Keith
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



    "Les" <completelyfalse@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:uX1xnLelIHA.1184@xxxxxx

    >" Keith Miller (MVP)" <k.miller@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >news:E68721E4-B983-4710-8704-7AF367024A9F@xxxxxx

    >> In Explorer, when you navigate to:
    >>
    >> 'C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger'
    >>
    >> You should see a button in the toolbar labeled 'Compatibility files'.
    >> Click that & you will be taken to:
    >>
    >> 'C:\Users\<UserName>AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
    >> Files\Yahoo!\Messenger'
    >>
    >> Which is where Vista redirects programs that attempt to write to the
    >> Program Files directory.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Good Luck,
    >>
    >> Keith
    >> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "TheBlueSky" <TheBlueSky@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:2A30B9C2-D2A8-4437-8A58-9DA41F5E3881@xxxxxx

    >>> Hi all,
    >>>
    >>> I'm facing this issue with some applications that needs to write some
    >>> files
    >>> on their installation directory... for example Yahoo Messenger creates
    >>> some
    >>> folders and write some files on its installation directory (e.g.
    >>> C:\Program
    >>> Files\Yahoo) for different reasons, like messages archiving.
    >>>
    >>> These files and folders are created somehow and the application is able
    >>> to
    >>> access them correctly, but when I use Windows Explorer to see them they
    >>> are
    >>> not there! They are absolutely not hidden and even if they are I have
    >>> the
    >>> option of displaying the hidden files and folders enabled, and still I
    >>> can't
    >>> see them! I don't know if Vista has some way to store these file, but I
    >>> couldn't even find them by searching!
    >>>
    >>> This problem isn't specific to Yahoo Messanger as I faced it before with
    >>> other application. One another example is eMule before that create Vista
    >>> version that stores your settings and downloaded file in your Vista user
    >>> folders instead of Program Files.
    >>>
    >>> I appreciate any help on that.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks in advance.
    >>
    >
    >
    > A good hint, but I can't find it on my Vista Ultimate. I have several
    > programmes that use the
    > 'C:\Users\<UserName>AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program to store data -
    > Opera browser for example.
    >
    > When I navigate to the Opera folder in Explorer, there is no button that
    > you described, and no menu items suggestive of it either
    >
    > Is there an option somewhere that I need to switch on to see what you
    > describe?
    >
    > --
    > regards,
    > Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #10


    Chuck Guest

    Re: Can't see files in some folders


    When I try to back up my system, I now find that there's more than 30 GB of
    data in the VirtualStore directories. This seems to duplicate files in the
    Program Files directory. Is there anyway to stop this madness?

    Chuck

    "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

    > BlueSky
    >
    > This behavior is because these programs are not compatible with the way
    > Vista treats restricted folders, such as 'Program Files'.
    >
    > When you open one of the folders where the files are saved, look for a
    > "Compatible Files" button on the Windows Explorer Command Bar. When you
    > click the compatibily files button, this will open the folder where the
    > files are saved.
    >
    > The usual location will be:
    > C:\Users\your name\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\
    >
    > *Note: These folders are hidden, by default. To make them visible, Open
    > Organize\Folder and Search Options\View Tab. Select the 'Show hidden files
    > and folders' option. Apply/OK.
    >
    > This whole process is called 'File and Folder Virtualization' and is there
    > to allow non-Vista compatible programs to work properly.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Ronnie Vernon
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Desktop Experience

      My System SpecsSystem Spec


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