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Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP

  1. #1


    ktpardue Guest

    Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP


    Hello,
    I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to answer
    Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but have
    not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista
    manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently
    denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across
    folders? With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator
    of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full rights
    to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very
    helpful.

    Thanks,
    KT Pardue




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  3. #2


    Wandering Guest

    Re: Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP


    "ktpardue" <kDELETEMEtpardue@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ktpardue.2bf0f54@xxxxxx

    >
    > Hello,
    > I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to answer
    > Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but have
    > not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista
    > manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently
    > denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across
    > folders? With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator
    > of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full rights
    > to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very
    > helpful.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > KT Pardue
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > ktpardue
    Network administrator is not the same as "administrator" status in Vista,
    and even an account with Administrator status cannot do a number of
    operations without elevating it's status to full administrator. No user
    account, even with "administrator" status actually has this higher status.

    Vista, like all modern operating systems does a great deal to improve
    security, by not allowing anything running to run as administrator, even an
    administrator account, so that if it were compromised by malware, it could
    not take over your machine. You could try any flavor of Linux or a Mac, and
    today, you'll fine essentially the same ideas. The simple fact is that
    almost no one and no software needs full administrator status, and to give
    it willy nilly is to open the machine to disaster. It also protects you from
    yourself. Sometimes this can be frustrating. In general, you might say that
    if the OP is preventing your from moving or altering certain files, it may
    well be there is a good reason, and you probably shouldn't be tampering with
    them. Of course there are exceptions, but Vista is a complex system, and
    overriding it's protections as many do is simply asking for grief. Malware
    is far more sophisticated these days, and the scanner software is always
    playing catch-up, it is never ahead of the bad guys. This is all simplified,
    but that is the drift of it.

    There is a learning curve with Vista or any modern operating system. It can
    be fun and a useful challenge, or you can give in to frustration because
    Vista does not operate like XP. The simple reason is that it isn't XP. I
    picked it up in a few weeks, and most of the folks I know did too. Going
    back to XP is less and less of an option and sometimes simply not possible
    for lack of drivers.. Vista works great for me, and I came from Win98SE,
    where you could blow away anything, move anything, and any malware at all
    could do whatever it wanted to the machine. I don't miss it. I hope this
    helps you.

    Good luck.


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  4. #3


    NetLink_Blue Guest

    Re: Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP


    "ktpardue" <kDELETEMEtpardue@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ktpardue.2bf0f54@xxxxxx

    >
    > Hello,
    > I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to answer
    > Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but have
    > not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista
    > manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently
    > denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across
    > folders?
    There may be no simple and easy answer to why Vista's file management is
    FUBAR'd ( screwed up beyond all repair).

    If you Google for terms like Vista/ permissions/ file management ... you
    will find all kinds of complaints. And inane MS supporters responses that
    basically boil down to -- "deal with it, chump".

    I have turned off UAC (User Account Control) on my system, and I still get
    glitches with folder operations. Administrator "rights" on your own
    computer ( looking down the road into the future) do not really belong to
    you. They belong to Microsoft, and the big media corporations that MS
    supports. On Vista today, they may be a "Super Administrator" previlage,
    though I haven't researched this possible option.


    > With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator
    > of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full rights
    > to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very
    > helpful.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > KT Pardue

    You really need to research this for yourself. If you do find a "succinct"
    answer that works for you, please share the information. Good Luck.

    _ Net


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  5. #4


    ktpardue Guest

    Re: Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP


    NetLink_Blue;677127 Wrote:

    > "ktpardue" kDELETEMEtpardue@xxxxxxRONG wrote in message
    > news:ktpardue.2bf0f54@xxxxxx-
    >
    > Hello,
    > I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to
    > answer
    > Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but
    > have
    > not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista
    > manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently
    > denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across
    > folders?-
    >
    > There may be no simple and easy answer to why Vista's file management
    > is
    > FUBAR'd ( screwed up beyond all repair).
    >
    > If you Google for terms like Vista/ permissions/ file management ...
    > you
    > will find all kinds of complaints. And inane MS supporters responses
    > that
    > basically boil down to -- "deal with it, chump".
    >
    > I have turned off UAC (User Account Control) on my system, and I still
    > get
    > glitches with folder operations. Administrator "rights" on your own
    > computer ( looking down the road into the future) do not really belong
    > to
    > you. They belong to Microsoft, and the big media corporations that MS
    >
    > supports. On Vista today, they may be a "Super Administrator"
    > previlage,
    > though I haven't researched this possible option.
    >
    > -
    > With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator
    > of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full
    > rights
    > to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very
    > helpful.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > KT Pardue-
    >
    >
    > You really need to research this for yourself. If you do find a
    > "succinct"
    > answer that works for you, please share the information. Good Luck.
    >
    > _ Net
    As a matter of fact, I seem to remember having read somewhere a really
    good summary (or so it seemed at the time) of how to deal with Vista's
    file management, and I will post it if I find it again. thanks!




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  6. #5


    Ernst Guest

    Re: Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP

    I understand and appreciate the attempts to protect the system against abuse.
    However, it seems to overdo it on a regular basis. As ktpardue I struggle
    with this. Why can I save for example a pdf-file in a destination directory
    one moment and not the next? All it does is make me crazy, because I have to
    copy the pdf to the destination folder after having saved it in the default
    location. And this happens 20 times a day. I would really like this resolved
    in an update.


    "ktpardue" wrote:

    >
    > NetLink_Blue;677127 Wrote:

    > > "ktpardue" kDELETEMEtpardue@xxxxxxRONG wrote in message
    > > news:ktpardue.2bf0f54@xxxxxx-
    > >
    > > Hello,
    > > I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to
    > > answer
    > > Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but
    > > have
    > > not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista
    > > manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently
    > > denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across
    > > folders?-
    > >
    > > There may be no simple and easy answer to why Vista's file management
    > > is
    > > FUBAR'd ( screwed up beyond all repair).
    > >
    > > If you Google for terms like Vista/ permissions/ file management ...
    > > you
    > > will find all kinds of complaints. And inane MS supporters responses
    > > that
    > > basically boil down to -- "deal with it, chump".
    > >
    > > I have turned off UAC (User Account Control) on my system, and I still
    > > get
    > > glitches with folder operations. Administrator "rights" on your own
    > > computer ( looking down the road into the future) do not really belong
    > > to
    > > you. They belong to Microsoft, and the big media corporations that MS
    > >
    > > supports. On Vista today, they may be a "Super Administrator"
    > > previlage,
    > > though I haven't researched this possible option.
    > >
    > > -
    > > With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator
    > > of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full
    > > rights
    > > to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very
    > > helpful.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > KT Pardue-
    > >
    > >
    > > You really need to research this for yourself. If you do find a
    > > "succinct"
    > > answer that works for you, please share the information. Good Luck.
    > >
    > > _ Net
    >
    > As a matter of fact, I seem to remember having read somewhere a really
    > good summary (or so it seemed at the time) of how to deal with Vista's
    > file management, and I will post it if I find it again. thanks!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > ktpardue
    >

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