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| | Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP Hello, I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to answer Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but have not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across folders? With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full rights to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very helpful. Thanks, KT Pardue -- ktpardue |
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| | Re: Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP "ktpardue" <kDELETEMEtpardue@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ktpardue.2bf0f54@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hello, > I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to answer > Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but have > not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista > manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently > denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across > folders? With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator > of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full rights > to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very > helpful. > > Thanks, > KT Pardue > > > > > -- > ktpardue and even an account with Administrator status cannot do a number of operations without elevating it's status to full administrator. No user account, even with "administrator" status actually has this higher status. Vista, like all modern operating systems does a great deal to improve security, by not allowing anything running to run as administrator, even an administrator account, so that if it were compromised by malware, it could not take over your machine. You could try any flavor of Linux or a Mac, and today, you'll fine essentially the same ideas. The simple fact is that almost no one and no software needs full administrator status, and to give it willy nilly is to open the machine to disaster. It also protects you from yourself. Sometimes this can be frustrating. In general, you might say that if the OP is preventing your from moving or altering certain files, it may well be there is a good reason, and you probably shouldn't be tampering with them. Of course there are exceptions, but Vista is a complex system, and overriding it's protections as many do is simply asking for grief. Malware is far more sophisticated these days, and the scanner software is always playing catch-up, it is never ahead of the bad guys. This is all simplified, but that is the drift of it. There is a learning curve with Vista or any modern operating system. It can be fun and a useful challenge, or you can give in to frustration because Vista does not operate like XP. The simple reason is that it isn't XP. I picked it up in a few weeks, and most of the folks I know did too. Going back to XP is less and less of an option and sometimes simply not possible for lack of drivers.. Vista works great for me, and I came from Win98SE, where you could blow away anything, move anything, and any malware at all could do whatever it wanted to the machine. I don't miss it. I hope this helps you. Good luck. |
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| | Re: Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP "ktpardue" <kDELETEMEtpardue@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ktpardue.2bf0f54@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hello, > I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to answer > Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but have > not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista > manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently > denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across > folders? FUBAR'd ( screwed up beyond all repair). If you Google for terms like Vista/ permissions/ file management ... you will find all kinds of complaints. And inane MS supporters responses that basically boil down to -- "deal with it, chump". I have turned off UAC (User Account Control) on my system, and I still get glitches with folder operations. Administrator "rights" on your own computer ( looking down the road into the future) do not really belong to you. They belong to Microsoft, and the big media corporations that MS supports. On Vista today, they may be a "Super Administrator" previlage, though I haven't researched this possible option. Quote: > With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator > of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full rights > to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very > helpful. > > Thanks, > KT Pardue You really need to research this for yourself. If you do find a "succinct" answer that works for you, please share the information. Good Luck. _ Net |
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| | Re: Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP NetLink_Blue;677127 Wrote: Quote: > "ktpardue" kDELETEMEtpardue@xxxxxxRONG wrote in message > news:ktpardue.2bf0f54@xxxxxx- > > Hello, > I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to > answer > Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but > have > not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista > manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently > denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across > folders?- > > There may be no simple and easy answer to why Vista's file management > is > FUBAR'd ( screwed up beyond all repair). > > If you Google for terms like Vista/ permissions/ file management ... > you > will find all kinds of complaints. And inane MS supporters responses > that > basically boil down to -- "deal with it, chump". > > I have turned off UAC (User Account Control) on my system, and I still > get > glitches with folder operations. Administrator "rights" on your own > computer ( looking down the road into the future) do not really belong > to > you. They belong to Microsoft, and the big media corporations that MS > > supports. On Vista today, they may be a "Super Administrator" > previlage, > though I haven't researched this possible option. > > - > With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator > of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full > rights > to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very > helpful. > > Thanks, > KT Pardue- > > > You really need to research this for yourself. If you do find a > "succinct" > answer that works for you, please share the information. Good Luck. > > _ Net good summary (or so it seemed at the time) of how to deal with Vista's file management, and I will post it if I find it again. thanks! -- ktpardue |
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| | Re: Overview of Vista File Management vs. XP I understand and appreciate the attempts to protect the system against abuse. However, it seems to overdo it on a regular basis. As ktpardue I struggle with this. Why can I save for example a pdf-file in a destination directory one moment and not the next? All it does is make me crazy, because I have to copy the pdf to the destination folder after having saved it in the default location. And this happens 20 times a day. I would really like this resolved in an update. "ktpardue" wrote: Quote: > > NetLink_Blue;677127 Wrote: Quote: > > "ktpardue" kDELETEMEtpardue@xxxxxxRONG wrote in message > > news:ktpardue.2bf0f54@xxxxxx- > > > > Hello, > > I am new to this forum and I am pleased there is such a forum to > > answer > > Vista questions. I have owned Vista Ultimate since it came out, but > > have > > not used it until now. I am trying to get used to the the way Vista > > manage files. Can someone succinctly explain why Vista frequently > > denies me the ability to move, copy, cut, and paste files across > > folders?- > > > > There may be no simple and easy answer to why Vista's file management > > is > > FUBAR'd ( screwed up beyond all repair). > > > > If you Google for terms like Vista/ permissions/ file management ... > > you > > will find all kinds of complaints. And inane MS supporters responses > > that > > basically boil down to -- "deal with it, chump". > > > > I have turned off UAC (User Account Control) on my system, and I still > > get > > glitches with folder operations. Administrator "rights" on your own > > computer ( looking down the road into the future) do not really belong > > to > > you. They belong to Microsoft, and the big media corporations that MS > > > > supports. On Vista today, they may be a "Super Administrator" > > previlage, > > though I haven't researched this possible option. > > > > - > > With XP this was never an issue. I am the owner/administrator > > of my own network and I believe I have ensured that I have full > > rights > > to all operations. Any feedback you can provide me will be very > > helpful. > > > > Thanks, > > KT Pardue- > > > > > > You really need to research this for yourself. If you do find a > > "succinct" > > answer that works for you, please share the information. Good Luck. > > > > _ Net > As a matter of fact, I seem to remember having read somewhere a really > good summary (or so it seemed at the time) of how to deal with Vista's > file management, and I will post it if I find it again. thanks! > > > > > -- > ktpardue > |
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