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Old 08-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
98 Guy
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Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

If files are copied (drag'n'dropped) to a CD-R while using Vista, are
those files accessible if the CD is put into an XP machine? I've heard
of some first-hand accounts where this seems to be the case.

Does Vista use a file system on burned CD's or DVD's that XP can't read?

If so, does Micro$oft provide a driver for XP to be able to read them?

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Old 08-22-2008   #2 (permalink)
98 Guy
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

Ramesh MVP wrote:
Quote:

> Vista usage UDF file system for CD/DVDs...and you can read in earlier
> version of Windows by choosing appropriate version of UDF while burning
> discs
>
> 1.02 >> This format can be read on Windows 98 as well as many Apple
> computers. You should use this version if you need to format DVD-RAM or
> MO (Magneto-optical) discs.
>
> 1.5 >> This format is compatible with Windows 2000, Windows XP, and
> Windows Server 2003. It might not be compatible with Windows 98 or Apple
> computers.
>
> 2.01 >> This format is compatible with Windows XP and Windows Server
> 2003. It might not compatible with Windows 98, Windows 2000, or Apple
> computers.
>
> 2.5 >> This format is designed for the latest version of Windows and
> might not be compatible with earlier versions of Windows.
So is the default setting 2.5?

Is it just me, or is this issue (and the potential for Vista -> XP
incompatibility) common knowledge?

Is there a benefit in using 2.5 vs 2.01, or did Microsoft do this
because it's their habbit of creating compatibility or
intra-operatbility problems with older windows versions?
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Old 08-22-2008   #3 (permalink)
Bob D.
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

I think for regular CD's it's file system is CDFS. Not sure what they call
it for a DVD.

Bob


"98 Guy" <98@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:48AEB6A3.9E7FF78D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> If files are copied (drag'n'dropped) to a CD-R while using Vista, are
> those files accessible if the CD is put into an XP machine? I've heard
> of some first-hand accounts where this seems to be the case.
>
> Does Vista use a file system on burned CD's or DVD's that XP can't read?
>
> If so, does Micro$oft provide a driver for XP to be able to read them?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-23-2008   #4 (permalink)
98 Guy
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

Um, did none of you people catch the following information... ???

You're all going off on crazy-ass tangents. The following is the most
coherent explanation so far, but it does raise further questions:

Ramesh MVP wrote:
Quote:

> Vista usage UDF file system for CD/DVDs...and you can read in earlier
> version of Windows by choosing appropriate version of UDF while
> burning discs
>
> 1.02 >> This format can be read on Windows 98 as well as many Apple
> computers. You should use this version if you need to format DVD-RAM
> or MO (Magneto-optical) discs.
>
> 1.5 >> This format is compatible with Windows 2000, Windows XP, and
> Windows Server 2003. It might not be compatible with Windows 98 or
> Apple computers.
>
> 2.01 >> This format is compatible with Windows XP and Windows Server
> 2003. It might not compatible with Windows 98, Windows 2000, or Apple
> computers.
>
> 2.5 >> This format is designed for the latest version of Windows and
> might not be compatible with earlier versions of Windows.
And the following questions remain unanswered:

Is the default Vista setting to use UDF 2.5?

Is it just me, or is this issue (and the potential for Vista -> XP
incompatibility) common knowledge?

Is there a benefit in using 2.5 vs 2.01, or did Microsoft do this
because it's their habbit of creating compatibility or
intra-operatbility problems with older windows versions?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-15-2009   #5 (permalink)
Adam A. Wanderer
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

"98 Guy" <98@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:48AEB6A3.9E7FF78D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> If files are copied (drag'n'dropped) to a CD-R while using Vista, are
> those files accessible if the CD is put into an XP machine? I've heard
> of some first-hand accounts where this seems to be the case.
>
> Does Vista use a file system on burned CD's or DVD's that XP can't read?
>
> If so, does Micro$oft provide a driver for XP to be able to read them?
I'm a long, long way from being an expert, but part of it may be the
"version" of UDF XP and/or Vista use. Also, there's a UDF/ISO "bridge
format" that uses both in the same disk so that both new and older systems
can read the CD/DVD created. To make matters worse, there are ways to
"relax" the UDF and ISO formats to make them easier to work with, but that
can result in the disk not working, or working, on different machines and
programs (it's usually best never to "relax" the format, unless you know for
sure it won't make any difference.
Note: An experienced user of the Nero disk burning program can tell you
more about the options for UDF, ISO and UDF/ISO "bridge" formats and what
can be "relaxed" when creating CD/DVDs. (I'm not an experienced user.)
Nero, and other programs, has the supreme advantage of being able to "tweak"
the UDF, ISO and "bride" options/settings, whereas you can't change the XP
or Vista settings. What UDF-ISO-UDF/ISO formats and "relaxations" the "Drag
and Drop" methods use on either XP or Vista, probably only someone at
Microsoft could even begin to tell you, and they don't talk to the public
much. I tried to find out at the Microsoft web site, and it's actually
worse than stereo instructions or understanding the inner workings of some
super computer! (Go to http://www.microsoft.com and use the search feature
to feed in UDF, ISO, and both UDF/ISO together.)


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