Vista - Vista search anomalies

I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise 3.jpg in
Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none of them
showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed up. I am
using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file name and
contents.
Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
Thanks,
Chas

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:37:01 -0800, chasgl
<chasgl@xxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah... Vista search sucks.

Turn off indexing on all drives.

Use Agent Ransack (Google it) for your searches.

where did you search for it, in the start menu or some other place?

"chasgl" <chasgl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Saying that Vista search sucks is the biggest understatement I have read in a long time. It is horrible! It blows! It is amazingly, stunningly, disgustingly, fatally flawed. No one could have done usability testing on that steaming pile of horse hockey. It infuriates me that they not only released this total piece of garbage but that they don't get rid of it. What possible reason could MS have had for eliminating the perfectly good search facility in XP so that they could replace it with something that is so nauseatingly badly designed and totally bug-ridden. It angers me on a daily basis. I have decided for the first time to seriously consider getting a Mac, primarily due to the nightmare of using Vista, the two biggest offenders being file search and file management (no tree-view, Microsoft??? No way to revert to the File Explorer that worked so well in Windows 95, 98, NT, and XP????) I used to be a big MS supporter but now I tell anyone who will listen to avoid Vista like the plague. Man, I hate it!!!

Jonathan Harker wrote:
Jonathan, I've found that the only thing that doesn't work with windows
search is the search box in the start menu, and the fact that if you
have multiple drives you must have that drive open in an explorer window.

Try this experiment;

Since you mentioned the Public folder, click start > computer > C drive
(in the left pane)so that the contents of C is open in the explorer
window. At the top right of the explorer window is a search box. Type
the first 3 digits of the file you want. I use search 4.0 and I have
never been unable to easily find anything I want. I also have 3 external
HDD's along with my one internal C drive. You must search each drive
separately. You will not find a file in H when you search F. The windows
indexing apparently handles each drive individually.

Try this and let us know.

--
Dave T.


You can't imagine the extra work I had when I was a god. - Hirohito,
Emporer of Japan

Dave, you HAVE to be kidding! I can virtually never get Vista file search to work. Like Jonathon, I have run experiments to prove that it doesn't work. For example, today I searched my entire computer for all my mp3 files because I wanted to back them up, searching for "mp3". It found only a few files of the thousands of files on my one and only drive, none of which had mp3 as an extension. But if I changed to one of the directories that I knew has files and did the same identical search, it found all of them. And if I selected just the C drive and did the search, it found the same handful as when I searched the entire computer. And these searches were done from the File Explorer, not from the Start menu. I tried with Indexed on and again with it off. I looked at every option in the Search options and tried everything I could think of. Always the same incorrect result. This is typical of what happens every time I try to use that lousy search. Next experiment: I copied a few hundred mp3 files to a USB drive from my C drive. Did a search of the entire computer and it found only the ones on the USB drive but none of the ones on the C drive. Same files. Copied, not moved - they still are sitting on the C drive. But search simply doesn't find them. Why not?

If such a basic and necessary tool fails as badly and as consistently as this one does, it makes the entire OS worthless in my opinion.

And what about the Advanced search features? You only get the option to set the Advanced Search parameters by first doing a search and then waiting for it to complete, which can be a long wait to do something that you needed to do at the outset. It really is upsetting! I mean it is the WORST!

donfrench wrote:Donfrench, I understand your frustration. I guess I don't have any
answers except to say that I have had NO problems with anything about
Vista. Everything works for me! I have had this (OEM, not upgrade) OS
for nearly 2 years and it is the best OS I have ever used and I have
been computing at work and at home since Win3.11. Not one BSOD, not one
failed driver, Search finds everything I look for, as long as I don't
use the search in the start menu. It is not as though I don't use it for
anything challenging. I use a USB turntable with Audacity audio editing
software extensively, along with photoshop, open office, Google earth
and I do a little gaming. The only changes I have made (other than
adding a ton of storage) is a larger power supply and an upgraded video
card.
One thing that did irritate me was MS doing push updates, but that is
not Vista specific.
I can't begin to relate to the problems that I read about on Usenet,
because I don't experience them. I know (my imagination?) that whenever
a poster lists the equipment they use, it always seems to be a short
list of manufacturers like Dell and Toshiba. I can't recall many people
complaining about an HP product, which is what I have. Again, maybe my
imagination.

--
Dave T.


You can't imagine the extra work I had when I was a god. - Hirohito,
Emporer of Japan

It is from the search field in Windows Explorer.
Chas

"Shankp" wrote:

Windows Vista search works well for me, especially if I use the various
recommended techniques. Here are a couple of useful references:

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/win...echniques.aspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../advquery.mspx

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"chasgl" <chasgl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:49:35 -0600, donfrench <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
wrote:
Don,
I think that you will find that once you learn how to use it, Windows
Desktop Search 4 works very well indeed. The syntax, the options, and the
whole way it operates is very different from before. If you just plunge
in using the old ways, I agree that it can be very frustrating.

For example, to find all Mp3 files with an indexed search, use the query:
ext:mp3
from the "Indexed Locations" saved search in your user folder. If some of
your Mp3 files are in non-indexed folders, then use the "Everywhere" saved
search or set the option to include non-indexed locations.

You can see the Advanced Search panel before doing a search by using the
keyboard shortcut Win key + F and then clicking on the Advanced Search
button on the far right of the toolbar.

Keep in mind also that searches from the Start menu are restricted by
default and have their own setup options, in the Customize Start Menu
dialog.

Here are some MS links that explain how the new search function works:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../advquery.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...filetypes.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...andtricks.mspx
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/win...529ec1033.mspx
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...6426d1033.mspx
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...dc0d51033.mspx

Doug M. in NJ