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Old 05-07-2009   #1 (permalink)


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Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64

My issue is that I cannot make a large enough partition from inside Vista x64.

I have two 1TB HDDs in mirroring, and there's only 1 primary partition right now that spans across the entire 1TB. 350GB of the 1TB are occupied by the OS and documents / files.

My objective is to split this 1TB into two partitions for dual boot with Win7 RC. And for that I need a 2nd primary partition on this drive (at least 20GB or so).

I first tried the standard way of creating a new partition. From Disk Management, I right clicked on the C drive and Shrink Volume. Then, it says I can only shrink by 1GB!!! Since I cannot be repeating that 20 or more times, I unsuccessfully gave diskpart.exe a shot.

Can anybody help me with this?

On the Shrink C disk from Disk Management, it sasy:

Size of available shrink space can be restricted if snapshots or pagefiles are enabled on the volume.

Could this be the reason? And if so, how can I turn them off?

Thank you!

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Old 05-07-2009   #2 (permalink)
Richard Urban


 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64

Go to Computer | Properties | Advanced System Settings | System
rotection - turn off System Restore. Then reboot. Now run a manual defrag
on the drive you want to shrink. Then try the shrink process again.

If still no joy you will need to perform a boot time defrag that is offered
by some 3rd party defrag programs, such as PerfectDisk or DisKeeper.

I do all of my partition work by booting from a CD that contains Acronis
Disk Director Suite. By doing this I am not encumbered by any locked
files/folders because none are in use (the operating system is non in use at
that point).

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"NYCGirl" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:d658d983c048a9427b9dff7e18112d1c@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> My issue is that I cannot make a large enough partition from inside
> Vista x64.
>
> I have two 1TB HDDs in mirroring, and there's only 1 primary partition
> right now that spans across the entire 1TB. 350GB of the 1TB are
> occupied by the OS and documents / files.
>
> My objective is to split this 1TB into two partitions for dual boot
> with Win7 RC. And for that I need a 2nd primary partition on this drive
> (at least 20GB or so).
>
> I first tried the standard way of creating a new partition. From Disk
> Management, I right clicked on the C drive and Shrink Volume. Then, it
> says I can only shrink by 1GB!!! Since I cannot be repeating that 20 or
> more times, I unsuccessfully gave diskpart.exe a shot.
>
> Can anybody help me with this?
>
> On the Shrink C disk from Disk Management, it sasy:
>
> Size of available shrink space can be restricted if snapshots or
> pagefiles are enabled on the volume.
>
> Could this be the reason? And if so, how can I turn them off?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> --
> NYCGirl
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-08-2009   #3 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium x64
 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Urban View Post
Go to Computer | Properties | Advanced System Settings | System
rotection - turn off System Restore. Then reboot. Now run a manual defrag
on the drive you want to shrink. Then try the shrink process again.

If still no joy you will need to perform a boot time defrag that is offered
by some 3rd party defrag programs, such as PerfectDisk or DisKeeper.

I do all of my partition work by booting from a CD that contains Acronis
Disk Director Suite. By doing this I am not encumbered by any locked
files/folders because none are in use (the operating system is non in use at
that point).

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"NYCGirl" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:d658d983c048a9427b9dff7e18112d1c@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:
>
> My issue is that I cannot make a large enough partition from inside
> Vista x64.
>
> I have two 1TB HDDs in mirroring, and there's only 1 primary partition
> right now that spans across the entire 1TB. 350GB of the 1TB are
> occupied by the OS and documents / files.
>
> My objective is to split this 1TB into two partitions for dual boot
> with Win7 RC. And for that I need a 2nd primary partition on this drive
> (at least 20GB or so).
>
> I first tried the standard way of creating a new partition. From Disk
> Management, I right clicked on the C drive and Shrink Volume. Then, it
> says I can only shrink by 1GB!!! Since I cannot be repeating that 20 or
> more times, I unsuccessfully gave diskpart.exe a shot.
>
> Can anybody help me with this?
>
> On the Shrink C disk from Disk Management, it sasy:
>
> Size of available shrink space can be restricted if snapshots or
> pagefiles are enabled on the volume.
>
> Could this be the reason? And if so, how can I turn them off?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> --
> NYCGirl
Thank you for your reply. I suspect that I may well have to do the special defrag. I turned off System Restore, Pagefile etc. but I cannot still shrink enough.

I read about Acronis Disk Director Suite, however, I hardly have to make partitions, so, it's probably not smart for me to invest 50 dollars on the soft..

I will try PerfectDisk or DisKeeper to move the MBR etc. Thank you for the suggestions!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-08-2009   #4 (permalink)
Manny Weisbord


 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64

NYCGirl <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote:
Quote:

>
>Richard Urban;1038137 Wrote:
Quote:

>> Go to Computer | Properties | Advanced System Settings | System
>> rotection - turn off System Restore. Then reboot. Now run a manual
>> defrag
>> on the drive you want to shrink. Then try the shrink process again.
>>
>> If still no joy you will need to perform a boot time defrag that is
>> offered
>> by some 3rd party defrag programs, such as PerfectDisk or DisKeeper.
>>
>> I do all of my partition work by booting from a CD that contains
>> Acronis
>> Disk Director Suite. By doing this I am not encumbered by any locked
>> files/folders because none are in use (the operating system is non in
>> use at
>> that point).
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "NYCGirl" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:d658d983c048a9427b9dff7e18112d1c@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
Quote:

>> > >
>> > > My issue is that I cannot make a large enough partition from inside
>> > > Vista x64.
>> > >
>> > > I have two 1TB HDDs in mirroring, and there's only 1 primary
>> > partition
>> > > right now that spans across the entire 1TB. 350GB of the 1TB are
>> > > occupied by the OS and documents / files.
>> > >
>> > > My objective is to split this 1TB into two partitions for dual boot
>> > > with Win7 RC. And for that I need a 2nd primary partition on this
>> > drive
>> > > (at least 20GB or so).
>> > >
>> > > I first tried the standard way of creating a new partition. From Disk
>> > > Management, I right clicked on the C drive and Shrink Volume. Then,
>> > it
>> > > says I can only shrink by 1GB!!! Since I cannot be repeating that 20
>> > or
>> > > more times, I unsuccessfully gave diskpart.exe a shot.
>> > >
>> > > Can anybody help me with this?
>> > >
>> > > On the Shrink C disk from Disk Management, it sasy:
>> > >
>> > > Size of available shrink space can be restricted if snapshots or
>> > > pagefiles are enabled on the volume.
>> > >
>> > > Could this be the reason? And if so, how can I turn them off?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > NYCGirl > >
>
>Thank you for your reply. I suspect that I may well have to do the
>special defrag. I turned off System Restore, Pagefile etc. but I cannot
>still shrink enough.
>
>I read about Acronis Disk Director Suite, however, I hardly have to
>make partitions, so, it's probably not smart for me to invest 50 dollars
>on the soft..
>
>I will try PerfectDisk or DisKeeper to move the MBR etc. Thank you for
>the suggestions!
Try the freebie EASEUS:

http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #5 (permalink)
Slap


 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64


"NYCGirl" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:7bac61819b2f62cd7e6f6595a8b6db57@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Richard Urban;1038137 Wrote:
Quote:

>> Go to Computer | Properties | Advanced System Settings | System
>> rotection - turn off System Restore. Then reboot. Now run a manual
>> defrag
>> on the drive you want to shrink. Then try the shrink process again.
>>
>> If still no joy you will need to perform a boot time defrag that is
>> offered
>> by some 3rd party defrag programs, such as PerfectDisk or DisKeeper.
>>
>> I do all of my partition work by booting from a CD that contains
>> Acronis
>> Disk Director Suite. By doing this I am not encumbered by any locked
>> files/folders because none are in use (the operating system is non in
>> use at
>> that point).
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "NYCGirl" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:d658d983c048a9427b9dff7e18112d1c@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
Quote:

>> > >
>> > > My issue is that I cannot make a large enough partition from inside
>> > > Vista x64.
>> > >
>> > > I have two 1TB HDDs in mirroring, and there's only 1 primary
>> > partition
>> > > right now that spans across the entire 1TB. 350GB of the 1TB are
>> > > occupied by the OS and documents / files.
>> > >
>> > > My objective is to split this 1TB into two partitions for dual boot
>> > > with Win7 RC. And for that I need a 2nd primary partition on this
>> > drive
>> > > (at least 20GB or so).
>> > >
>> > > I first tried the standard way of creating a new partition. From Disk
>> > > Management, I right clicked on the C drive and Shrink Volume. Then,
>> > it
>> > > says I can only shrink by 1GB!!! Since I cannot be repeating that 20
>> > or
>> > > more times, I unsuccessfully gave diskpart.exe a shot.
>> > >
>> > > Can anybody help me with this?
>> > >
>> > > On the Shrink C disk from Disk Management, it sasy:
>> > >
>> > > Size of available shrink space can be restricted if snapshots or
>> > > pagefiles are enabled on the volume.
>> > >
>> > > Could this be the reason? And if so, how can I turn them off?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > NYCGirl > >
>
> Thank you for your reply. I suspect that I may well have to do the
> special defrag. I turned off System Restore, Pagefile etc. but I cannot
> still shrink enough.
>
> I read about Acronis Disk Director Suite, however, I hardly have to
> make partitions, so, it's probably not smart for me to invest 50 dollars
> on the soft..
>
> I will try PerfectDisk or DisKeeper to move the MBR etc. Thank you for
> the suggestions!
>
>
> --
> NYCGirl
Go here...
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

Download the iso. Copy the image (iso) to cd. Boot from it. You are good
to go.
--


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #6 (permalink)
Ray Luca


 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64

"Slap" <slap@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Go here...
>http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
>
>Download the iso. Copy the image (iso) to cd. Boot from it. You are good
>to go.
No... don't "copy" it. Burn it with software that can handle an ISO
image and break it down into its components so that the result will be
a bootable install disc.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-11-2009   #7 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium x64
 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Manny Weisbord View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Slap View Post
[quote]

Go here...
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

Download the iso. Copy the image (iso) to cd. Boot from it. You are good
to go.
--
Hi!!! Thank you very much!! I ended up booting and making partitions from Vista disk over hte weekend as nothing else worked..

I did Perfect Disk's SMARTPlacement to move Boot files, but it was still not shrinkable. I had the option to defrag at boot, but when I set it to that option and rebooted, I got a message that the defrag could not be performed, I also got some letters like /f /d c:\ or whatever (I don't remember exactly what it was) which made no sense to me. So, I figure, if the software that people pay for couldn't do it, then there was no hope. And decided to reinstall Vista and make partitions.

Thank you for all of your help! I learned a lot!!!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-11-2009   #8 (permalink)
Slap


 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64


"Ray Luca" <rayluca@xxxxxx> wrote in message
newsl7f05te854a25equu72nnf9plveobv8i5@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Slap" <slap@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>Go here...
>>http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
>>
>>Download the iso. Copy the image (iso) to cd. Boot from it. You are
>>good
>>to go.
>
> No... don't "copy" it. Burn it with software that can handle an ISO
> image and break it down into its components so that the result will be
> a bootable install disc.
That's what Vista does. They call it 'copy image to cd' from the right
mouse button drop down menu. If she has XP she needs a third party iso
maker. In vista 'copy' to CD will do just that and she will end up with a
'iso' file which of course will not boot.

--




My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-11-2009   #9 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium x64
 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Slap View Post
"Ray Luca" <rayluca@xxxxxx> wrote in message
newsl7f05te854a25equu72nnf9plveobv8i5@xxxxxx
Quote:
> "Slap" <slap@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:
>>Go here...
>>GParted -- Welcome
>>
>>Download the iso. Copy the image (iso) to cd. Boot from it. You are
>>good
>>to go.
>
> No... don't "copy" it. Burn it with software that can handle an ISO
> image and break it down into its components so that the result will be
> a bootable install disc.
That's what Vista does. They call it 'copy image to cd' from the right
mouse button drop down menu. If she has XP she needs a third party iso
maker. In vista 'copy' to CD will do just that and she will end up with a
'iso' file which of course will not boot.

--
yeah I know what you are saying, I have Roxio Creator 2009, and I have to choose Make a disk from an image or something like that. That's how I made my Win 7 installation disks and other bootable disks. You don't make a copy of an ISO image and put it on a disk as it is.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-11-2009   #10 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium x64
 
 

Re: Help! HDD Partitioning Inside Vista x64

Hey I bookedmarked EASEUS Partition Master (the free version supposedly only works on 32-bit Vista and mine's 64 bit) but downloaded Gparted's latest version.

As far as I can tell, it's NOT an ISO file. I could use WinRAR which unpacks compressed files including zip files. So I just seed it on my C drive, and I can run it like that?

Though I already made necessary partitions, I would like to learn how to use it so that I can use it when I change my mind again and change the current partitions, lol.
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