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  1. #1


    Ben Griffiths Guest

    Documents and Settings

    After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings folder.
    Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.

    So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is a
    'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain access
    to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one cannot
    'Apply' any changes you make.

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  2. #2


    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    Sounds like UAC to me, try disabling it and try accessing the folder again:
    Click Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll
    down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes
    to take effect.
    --
    --
    Andre
    Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
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    Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

    "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    > After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    > apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings
    > folder.
    > Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    >
    > So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is a
    > 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain
    > access
    > to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one cannot
    > 'Apply' any changes you make.




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  3. #3


    Sean McLeod Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    Not sure why you needed to enable the administrator account.

    When I browse into c:\users\administrator I get an UAC prompt, which I okay
    and then I can continue browsing.

    And obivously browsing into my own account, c:\users\sean there is no UAC
    prompt and I have no problems browsing that sub-folder.

    You say "Documents and Settings" folder. Is this from an XP upgrade? In
    clean installs of Vista they've changed that to \users.

    Cheers

    "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    > After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    > apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings
    > folder.
    > Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    >
    > So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is a
    > 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain
    > access
    > to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one cannot
    > 'Apply' any changes you make.



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  4. #4


    Sean McLeod Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    As mentioned in my reply to the original posting I get a UAC prompt when
    accessing other folders like administrator and then I can browse them with
    no problems.

    If he's not getting a UAC prompt then it's probably a different set of
    permissions that administrator doesn't have access to without taking
    ownership.

    In general it's a bad idea to go round disabling UAC, rather run a command
    prompt, or explorer as administrator when you need to if you want to avoid
    the UAC prompt.

    Cheers

    "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:%23iBtJmFjGHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > Sounds like UAC to me, try disabling it and try accessing the folder
    > again:
    > Click Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll
    > down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the
    > changes to take effect.
    > --
    > --
    > Andre
    > Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
    > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    >
    > "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    >> After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    >> apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings
    >> folder.
    >> Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    >>
    >> So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is a
    >> 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain
    >> access
    >> to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one
    >> cannot
    >> 'Apply' any changes you make.

    >
    >



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  5. #5


    Kev Struthers Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    I've got exactly the same fault after doing what I thought was a "clean"
    install of Vista. It actually left most of drive C intact and renamed the
    original Windows directory to Windows.old. I think he problem is that
    Documents and Settings is still owned by my XP persona.....still working on
    that one.

    "Sean McLeod" wrote:

    > Not sure why you needed to enable the administrator account.
    >
    > When I browse into c:\users\administrator I get an UAC prompt, which I okay
    > and then I can continue browsing.
    >
    > And obivously browsing into my own account, c:\users\sean there is no UAC
    > prompt and I have no problems browsing that sub-folder.
    >
    > You say "Documents and Settings" folder. Is this from an XP upgrade? In
    > clean installs of Vista they've changed that to \users.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    > > After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    > > apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings
    > > folder.
    > > Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    > >
    > > So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is a
    > > 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain
    > > access
    > > to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one cannot
    > > 'Apply' any changes you make.

    >


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  6. #6


    Sean McLeod Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    So do you have a \Documents and Settings and a \users tree now?

    If so then run an administrator version of explorer and take/give ownership
    to your Vista user account. You probably then want to copy your data from
    the \Documents and Settings tree to the \users tree.

    Cheers

    "Kev Struthers" <Kev Struthers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:5E5CED1E-0E92-4DB8-9F73-A660675E5C02@microsoft.com...
    > I've got exactly the same fault after doing what I thought was a "clean"
    > install of Vista. It actually left most of drive C intact and renamed the
    > original Windows directory to Windows.old. I think he problem is that
    > Documents and Settings is still owned by my XP persona.....still working
    > on
    > that one.
    >
    > "Sean McLeod" wrote:
    >
    >> Not sure why you needed to enable the administrator account.
    >>
    >> When I browse into c:\users\administrator I get an UAC prompt, which I
    >> okay
    >> and then I can continue browsing.
    >>
    >> And obivously browsing into my own account, c:\users\sean there is no UAC
    >> prompt and I have no problems browsing that sub-folder.
    >>
    >> You say "Documents and Settings" folder. Is this from an XP upgrade? In
    >> clean installs of Vista they've changed that to \users.
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >>
    >> "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    >> > After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    >> > apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings
    >> > folder.
    >> > Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    >> >
    >> > So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is
    >> > a
    >> > 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain
    >> > access
    >> > to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one
    >> > cannot
    >> > 'Apply' any changes you make.

    >>



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  7. #7


    Chris Altmann Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    Try AppData instead of Application Data. There are similar new folders for
    the others. I think it's part of the new security regime (and probably to
    keep programs from hardcoding the paths to these folders instead of using
    the APIs and envars).


    "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    > After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    > apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings
    > folder.
    > Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    >
    > So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is a
    > 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain
    > access
    > to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one cannot
    > 'Apply' any changes you make.



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  8. #8


    Ben Griffiths Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    Yes, because I told windows to show hidden system files.

    I was, and indeed am, just testing a number of browses. Firefox stores it's
    profile data, which I want to import a new one, in the Application Data
    folder. Or at least, it did. That's one reason I wanted to have access
    anyway, other than that I'm simply explorering Vista!

    It's interesting about the UAC. It was really annoying me, so I had simply
    disabled it, I hadn't realised then I could simply load explorer in
    Administrator mode to stop those infuriating warnings.

    The permissions that don't allow me into the Documents and Settings folder
    are different though, and it isn't UAC. Currently I'm using XP, so I'll have
    to boot Vista up and try some suggestions later. Thanks for your help.

    "Sean McLeod" wrote:

    > So do you have a \Documents and Settings and a \users tree now?
    >
    > If so then run an administrator version of explorer and take/give ownership
    > to your Vista user account. You probably then want to copy your data from
    > the \Documents and Settings tree to the \users tree.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > "Kev Struthers" <Kev Struthers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:5E5CED1E-0E92-4DB8-9F73-A660675E5C02@microsoft.com...
    > > I've got exactly the same fault after doing what I thought was a "clean"
    > > install of Vista. It actually left most of drive C intact and renamed the
    > > original Windows directory to Windows.old. I think he problem is that
    > > Documents and Settings is still owned by my XP persona.....still working
    > > on
    > > that one.
    > >
    > > "Sean McLeod" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Not sure why you needed to enable the administrator account.
    > >>
    > >> When I browse into c:\users\administrator I get an UAC prompt, which I
    > >> okay
    > >> and then I can continue browsing.
    > >>
    > >> And obivously browsing into my own account, c:\users\sean there is no UAC
    > >> prompt and I have no problems browsing that sub-folder.
    > >>
    > >> You say "Documents and Settings" folder. Is this from an XP upgrade? In
    > >> clean installs of Vista they've changed that to \users.
    > >>
    > >> Cheers
    > >>
    > >> "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    > >> > After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    > >> > apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings
    > >> > folder.
    > >> > Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    > >> >
    > >> > So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is
    > >> > a
    > >> > 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain
    > >> > access
    > >> > to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one
    > >> > cannot
    > >> > 'Apply' any changes you make.
    > >>

    >


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  9. #9


    Ben Griffiths Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    I belive I tried that at the time and recieved exactly the same permission
    warning. Though, I cannot remember.

    "Chris Altmann" wrote:

    > Try AppData instead of Application Data. There are similar new folders for
    > the others. I think it's part of the new security regime (and probably to
    > keep programs from hardcoding the paths to these folders instead of using
    > the APIs and envars).
    >
    >
    > "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    > > After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    > > apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and Settings
    > > folder.
    > > Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    > >
    > > So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there is a
    > > 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually gain
    > > access
    > > to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one cannot
    > > 'Apply' any changes you make.

    >


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  10. #10


    Sean McLeod Guest

    Re: Documents and Settings

    Vista is more than likely seeing references to a user ID that existed under
    XP as the owner etc. of the \documents and settings folders etc. So that's
    why I suggested taking ownership with your new vista userID.

    Cheers

    "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4A5323BC-1BA2-4F48-AB7A-B32F86A0F13D@microsoft.com...
    > Yes, because I told windows to show hidden system files.
    >
    > I was, and indeed am, just testing a number of browses. Firefox stores
    > it's
    > profile data, which I want to import a new one, in the Application Data
    > folder. Or at least, it did. That's one reason I wanted to have access
    > anyway, other than that I'm simply explorering Vista!
    >
    > It's interesting about the UAC. It was really annoying me, so I had simply
    > disabled it, I hadn't realised then I could simply load explorer in
    > Administrator mode to stop those infuriating warnings.
    >
    > The permissions that don't allow me into the Documents and Settings folder
    > are different though, and it isn't UAC. Currently I'm using XP, so I'll
    > have
    > to boot Vista up and try some suggestions later. Thanks for your help.
    >
    > "Sean McLeod" wrote:
    >
    >> So do you have a \Documents and Settings and a \users tree now?
    >>
    >> If so then run an administrator version of explorer and take/give
    >> ownership
    >> to your Vista user account. You probably then want to copy your data from
    >> the \Documents and Settings tree to the \users tree.
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >>
    >> "Kev Struthers" <Kev Struthers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >> message
    >> news:5E5CED1E-0E92-4DB8-9F73-A660675E5C02@microsoft.com...
    >> > I've got exactly the same fault after doing what I thought was a
    >> > "clean"
    >> > install of Vista. It actually left most of drive C intact and renamed
    >> > the
    >> > original Windows directory to Windows.old. I think he problem is that
    >> > Documents and Settings is still owned by my XP persona.....still
    >> > working
    >> > on
    >> > that one.
    >> >
    >> > "Sean McLeod" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Not sure why you needed to enable the administrator account.
    >> >>
    >> >> When I browse into c:\users\administrator I get an UAC prompt, which I
    >> >> okay
    >> >> and then I can continue browsing.
    >> >>
    >> >> And obivously browsing into my own account, c:\users\sean there is no
    >> >> UAC
    >> >> prompt and I have no problems browsing that sub-folder.
    >> >>
    >> >> You say "Documents and Settings" folder. Is this from an XP upgrade?
    >> >> In
    >> >> clean installs of Vista they've changed that to \users.
    >> >>
    >> >> Cheers
    >> >>
    >> >> "Ben Griffiths" <BenGriffiths@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >> >> message
    >> >> newsA74CD82-A997-46B5-B1A4-519513059EC3@microsoft.com...
    >> >> > After finally managing to enable the Administrator account, I still
    >> >> > apparently don't have permission to access the Documents and
    >> >> > Settings
    >> >> > folder.
    >> >> > Neither can I access the Application Data in my User folder.
    >> >> >
    >> >> > So far, Vista is being extremely resrictive... I don't suppose there
    >> >> > is
    >> >> > a
    >> >> > 'Let me in' tick box anywhere? Alternatively, how can I actually
    >> >> > gain
    >> >> > access
    >> >> > to these folders? Vista advises me to use the Security tab, but one
    >> >> > cannot
    >> >> > 'Apply' any changes you make.
    >> >>

    >>



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