Vista - how do you find all videos or pdfs with the new search tool

Where did that ability go. Or files by size. what is ms doing? this is a
horrible search engine compared to xp and 2003 svr.
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frustrated <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Where did that ability go. Or files by size. what is ms doing? this is a
>horrible search engine compared to xp and 2003 svr.

Advanced Search still has the capability to do all of what you
described.

WindowsKey+F, then hit the "Advanced Search" button.
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Hello,

Windows Vista has a new built-in searching engine that is completely
integrated into the operating system, but not all files are indexed. To add
a new file type to be indexed, you just have to follow a couple of steps.

To get to the indexing service panel, just type index into the start menu
search box, and hit enter.

In the Indexing Options window, click the Advanced button:
Now, type in the new extension and click “Add new extension�
If you want the file contents to be indexed as well, find the file type in
the list and make sure you select the “Index Properties and File Contents�
radio button.

I can search for tags or authors or various date attributes or file size
without a problem, but a number of the more advanced searching features are
tucked away, hidden from view from most users. For example, there is no
obvious way in the search window to narrow down my search to Word documents.
This functionality is indeed there, but it’s hidden. To access this feature,
mouse over the “Type� header� and click the down-pointing arrow. This will
bring up a checkbox list of filetypes present in the search. Click the
checkbox next to “TXT File,� for example, and the search will be narrowed to
only include TXT (plain text) files.

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"frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E547990B-09A5-432F-8F53-780FF23F4F9C@microsoft.com...
> Where did that ability go. Or files by size. what is ms doing? this is a
> horrible search engine compared to xp and 2003 svr.
> --
> help

great tips but why so convoluted like the rest of vista. the previous search
while not perfect had some simple powerful features. ill check out your
suggestions. thanks again.

but tell me how to do you look for all files larger than 1 mg in size or
find all videos. exact steps please.

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"Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Windows Vista has a new built-in searching engine that is completely
> integrated into the operating system, but not all files are indexed. To add
> a new file type to be indexed, you just have to follow a couple of steps.
>
> To get to the indexing service panel, just type index into the start menu
> search box, and hit enter.
>
> In the Indexing Options window, click the Advanced button:
> Now, type in the new extension and click “Add new extension�
> If you want the file contents to be indexed as well, find the file type in
> the list and make sure you select the “Index Properties and File Contents�
> radio button.
>
> I can search for tags or authors or various date attributes or file size
> without a problem, but a number of the more advanced searching features are
> tucked away, hidden from view from most users. For example, there is no
> obvious way in the search window to narrow down my search to Word documents.
> This functionality is indeed there, but it’s hidden. To access this feature,
> mouse over the “Type� header� and click the down-pointing arrow. This will
> bring up a checkbox list of filetypes present in the search. Click the
> checkbox next to “TXT File,� for example, and the search will be narrowed to
> only include TXT (plain text) files.
>
> --
> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
> issue to Brian
> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you
>
> Jonathan Yaniv
> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
>
> "frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E547990B-09A5-432F-8F53-780FF23F4F9C@microsoft.com...
> > Where did that ability go. Or files by size. what is ms doing? this is a
> > horrible search engine compared to xp and 2003 svr.
> > --
> > help
>
>

Hello,

Windows Key + F, and then, click advanced search, then you can select which
size you want to search for. Very simple.

Thanks

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"frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E8762EAC-C3FC-45B2-9742-65124AF3F44C@microsoft.com...
> great tips but why so convoluted like the rest of vista. the previous
> search
> while not perfect had some simple powerful features. ill check out your
> suggestions. thanks again.
>
> but tell me how to do you look for all files larger than 1 mg in size or
> find all videos. exact steps please.
>
> --
> help
>
>
> "Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Windows Vista has a new built-in searching engine that is completely
>> integrated into the operating system, but not all files are indexed. To
>> add
>> a new file type to be indexed, you just have to follow a couple of steps.
>>
>> To get to the indexing service panel, just type index into the start menu
>> search box, and hit enter.
>>
>> In the Indexing Options window, click the Advanced button:
>> Now, type in the new extension and click “Add new extension�
>> If you want the file contents to be indexed as well, find the file type
>> in
>> the list and make sure you select the “Index Properties and File
>> Contents�
>> radio button.
>>
>> I can search for tags or authors or various date attributes or file size
>> without a problem, but a number of the more advanced searching features
>> are
>> tucked away, hidden from view from most users. For example, there is no
>> obvious way in the search window to narrow down my search to Word
>> documents.
>> This functionality is indeed there, but it’s hidden. To access this
>> feature,
>> mouse over the “Type� header� and click the down-pointing arrow. This
>> will
>> bring up a checkbox list of filetypes present in the search. Click the
>> checkbox next to “TXT File,� for example, and the search will be narrowed
>> to
>> only include TXT (plain text) files.
>>
>> --
>> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
>> issue to Brian
>> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
>> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Jonathan Yaniv
>> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
>>
>> "frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E547990B-09A5-432F-8F53-780FF23F4F9C@microsoft.com...
>> > Where did that ability go. Or files by size. what is ms doing? this
>> > is a
>> > horrible search engine compared to xp and 2003 svr.
>> > --
>> > help
>>
>>

nope no go. i can clearly find files in the same folder that are not returned
as search results that are added to the index.


for example i type in search window the word mp3 and it just sits there even
though i have specified files larger than 1000k? i have about 500 of them.
7 are returned as results and all are in the same folder?

and you have still not explained how to look for any video ( i do not want
to specify a name) using search. this tool needs serious revisements. oh by
the way im an mcse 2003 so i have a little knowledge of search functions.
just a little. if im frustrated just imagine how my users will feel? oh im
using our licensed business vista enterprise edition.
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"Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Windows Key + F, and then, click advanced search, then you can select which
> size you want to search for. Very simple.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
> issue to Brian
> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you
>
> Jonathan Yaniv
> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
>
> "frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E8762EAC-C3FC-45B2-9742-65124AF3F44C@microsoft.com...
> > great tips but why so convoluted like the rest of vista. the previous
> > search
> > while not perfect had some simple powerful features. ill check out your
> > suggestions. thanks again.
> >
> > but tell me how to do you look for all files larger than 1 mg in size or
> > find all videos. exact steps please.
> >
> > --
> > help
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Windows Vista has a new built-in searching engine that is completely
> >> integrated into the operating system, but not all files are indexed. To
> >> add
> >> a new file type to be indexed, you just have to follow a couple of steps.
> >>
> >> To get to the indexing service panel, just type index into the start menu
> >> search box, and hit enter.
> >>
> >> In the Indexing Options window, click the Advanced button:
> >> Now, type in the new extension and click “Add new extension�
> >> If you want the file contents to be indexed as well, find the file type
> >> in
> >> the list and make sure you select the “Index Properties and File
> >> Contents�
> >> radio button.
> >>
> >> I can search for tags or authors or various date attributes or file size
> >> without a problem, but a number of the more advanced searching features
> >> are
> >> tucked away, hidden from view from most users. For example, there is no
> >> obvious way in the search window to narrow down my search to Word
> >> documents.
> >> This functionality is indeed there, but it’s hidden. To access this
> >> feature,
> >> mouse over the “Type� header� and click the down-pointing arrow. This
> >> will
> >> bring up a checkbox list of filetypes present in the search. Click the
> >> checkbox next to “TXT File,� for example, and the search will be narrowed
> >> to
> >> only include TXT (plain text) files.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
> >> issue to Brian
> >> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
> >> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> Jonathan Yaniv
> >> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
> >>
> >> "frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E547990B-09A5-432F-8F53-780FF23F4F9C@microsoft.com...
> >> > Where did that ability go. Or files by size. what is ms doing? this
> >> > is a
> >> > horrible search engine compared to xp and 2003 svr.
> >> > --
> >> > help
> >>
> >>
>

I agree with you that this tool needs more work. They took out a lot of
necessary features.

--
Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
issue to Brian
Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Jonathan Yaniv
Windows Live Butterfly Expert

"frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0E39C0F3-F576-4046-AFDF-7E18A1D84E2E@microsoft.com...
> nope no go. i can clearly find files in the same folder that are not
> returned
> as search results that are added to the index.
>
>
> for example i type in search window the word mp3 and it just sits there
> even
> though i have specified files larger than 1000k? i have about 500 of
> them.
> 7 are returned as results and all are in the same folder?
>
> and you have still not explained how to look for any video ( i do not want
> to specify a name) using search. this tool needs serious revisements. oh
> by
> the way im an mcse 2003 so i have a little knowledge of search functions.
> just a little. if im frustrated just imagine how my users will feel? oh im
> using our licensed business vista enterprise edition.
> --
> help
>
>
> "Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Windows Key + F, and then, click advanced search, then you can select
>> which
>> size you want to search for. Very simple.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
>> issue to Brian
>> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
>> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Jonathan Yaniv
>> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
>>
>> "frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E8762EAC-C3FC-45B2-9742-65124AF3F44C@microsoft.com...
>> > great tips but why so convoluted like the rest of vista. the previous
>> > search
>> > while not perfect had some simple powerful features. ill check out your
>> > suggestions. thanks again.
>> >
>> > but tell me how to do you look for all files larger than 1 mg in size
>> > or
>> > find all videos. exact steps please.
>> >
>> > --
>> > help
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Windows Vista has a new built-in searching engine that is completely
>> >> integrated into the operating system, but not all files are indexed.
>> >> To
>> >> add
>> >> a new file type to be indexed, you just have to follow a couple of
>> >> steps.
>> >>
>> >> To get to the indexing service panel, just type index into the start
>> >> menu
>> >> search box, and hit enter.
>> >>
>> >> In the Indexing Options window, click the Advanced button:
>> >> Now, type in the new extension and click “Add new extension�
>> >> If you want the file contents to be indexed as well, find the file
>> >> type
>> >> in
>> >> the list and make sure you select the “Index Properties and File
>> >> Contents�
>> >> radio button.
>> >>
>> >> I can search for tags or authors or various date attributes or file
>> >> size
>> >> without a problem, but a number of the more advanced searching
>> >> features
>> >> are
>> >> tucked away, hidden from view from most users. For example, there is
>> >> no
>> >> obvious way in the search window to narrow down my search to Word
>> >> documents.
>> >> This functionality is indeed there, but it’s hidden. To access this
>> >> feature,
>> >> mouse over the “Type� header� and click the down-pointing arrow. This
>> >> will
>> >> bring up a checkbox list of filetypes present in the search. Click the
>> >> checkbox next to “TXT File,� for example, and the search will be
>> >> narrowed
>> >> to
>> >> only include TXT (plain text) files.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving
>> >> your
>> >> issue to Brian
>> >> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate
>> >> me
>> >> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan Yaniv
>> >> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
>> >>
>> >> "frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:E547990B-09A5-432F-8F53-780FF23F4F9C@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Where did that ability go. Or files by size. what is ms doing?
>> >> > this
>> >> > is a
>> >> > horrible search engine compared to xp and 2003 svr.
>> >> > --
>> >> > help
>> >>
>> >>
>>

On 2007-02-25 02:05, frustrated wrote:
> nope no go. i can clearly find files in the same folder that are not returned
> as search results that are added to the index.
>
>
> for example i type in search window the word mp3 and it just sits there even
> though i have specified files larger than 1000k? i have about 500 of them.
> 7 are returned as results and all are in the same folder?

Are you sure that the folders where you keep your music has been indexed
yet? If not check the box "Include non-indexed, hidden, and systemfiles
(might be slow)".

> and you have still not explained how to look for any video ( i do not want
> to specify a name) using search. this tool needs serious revisements. oh by
> the way im an mcse 2003 so i have a little knowledge of search functions.
> just a little. if im frustrated just imagine how my users will feel? oh im
> using our licensed business vista enterprise edition.

If you want to seach for files with a specific file-extansion (which is
the only way to search for all videos since Vista can't magically know
which file is a video and which is not) you don't need to use the
advance seach just follow these steps:

1. Make sure the places where you store your videos are indexed
2. Windows + F
3. Enter "*.avi OR *.mpg OR *.mpeg OR *.mkv OR *.ogm OR *.rmvb"

While this might not find all video-files (I've skipped some of the less
used extensions I know of) it will find most of them.

For more tips on searching click on the desktop, press F1, enter
"search" in the box, press enter, click on "Tips for finding files" and
read.

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Erik Wikström

Yes I realize that. But before in xp you could search by videos, pictures and
music. this feature is gone. it was easy and now its a pain. and it is
inconsistent. i remember the beta versions always crashing with the indexing
in vista. seems it still has issues. also disappointed that winfx file
system was dropped. vista is a subpar o/s in my opinion. should have waited
two more years to release it. vendors are scrambling to make their apps work
with it as it has been delayed so many times. bah ms.
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"Erik Wikström" wrote:

> On 2007-02-25 02:05, frustrated wrote:
> > nope no go. i can clearly find files in the same folder that are not returned
> > as search results that are added to the index.
> >
> >
> > for example i type in search window the word mp3 and it just sits there even
> > though i have specified files larger than 1000k? i have about 500 of them.
> > 7 are returned as results and all are in the same folder?
>
> Are you sure that the folders where you keep your music has been indexed
> yet? If not check the box "Include non-indexed, hidden, and systemfiles
> (might be slow)".
>
> > and you have still not explained how to look for any video ( i do not want
> > to specify a name) using search. this tool needs serious revisements. oh by
> > the way im an mcse 2003 so i have a little knowledge of search functions.
> > just a little. if im frustrated just imagine how my users will feel? oh im
> > using our licensed business vista enterprise edition.
>
> If you want to seach for files with a specific file-extansion (which is
> the only way to search for all videos since Vista can't magically know
> which file is a video and which is not) you don't need to use the
> advance seach just follow these steps:
>
> 1. Make sure the places where you store your videos are indexed
> 2. Windows + F
> 3. Enter "*.avi OR *.mpg OR *.mpeg OR *.mkv OR *.ogm OR *.rmvb"
>
> While this might not find all video-files (I've skipped some of the less
> used extensions I know of) it will find most of them.
>
> For more tips on searching click on the desktop, press F1, enter
> "search" in the box, press enter, click on "Tips for finding files" and
> read.
>
> --
> Erik Wikström
>

if you use

'typevideo OR movie OR tv)'

should be pretty close.


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Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]

"frustrated" <frustrated@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F5D2B5E9-1778-43FD-9B73-0350AA92B475@microsoft.com...
> Yes I realize that. But before in xp you could search by videos, pictures
> and
> music. this feature is gone. it was easy and now its a pain. and it is
> inconsistent. i remember the beta versions always crashing with the
> indexing
> in vista. seems it still has issues. also disappointed that winfx file
> system was dropped. vista is a subpar o/s in my opinion. should have
> waited
> two more years to release it. vendors are scrambling to make their apps
> work
> with it as it has been delayed so many times. bah ms.
> --
> help
>
>
> "Erik Wikström" wrote:
>
>> On 2007-02-25 02:05, frustrated wrote:
>> > nope no go. i can clearly find files in the same folder that are not
>> > returned
>> > as search results that are added to the index.
>> >
>> >
>> > for example i type in search window the word mp3 and it just sits there
>> > even
>> > though i have specified files larger than 1000k? i have about 500 of
>> > them.
>> > 7 are returned as results and all are in the same folder?
>>
>> Are you sure that the folders where you keep your music has been indexed
>> yet? If not check the box "Include non-indexed, hidden, and systemfiles
>> (might be slow)".
>>
>> > and you have still not explained how to look for any video ( i do not
>> > want
>> > to specify a name) using search. this tool needs serious revisements.
>> > oh by
>> > the way im an mcse 2003 so i have a little knowledge of search
>> > functions.
>> > just a little. if im frustrated just imagine how my users will feel? oh
>> > im
>> > using our licensed business vista enterprise edition.
>>
>> If you want to seach for files with a specific file-extansion (which is
>> the only way to search for all videos since Vista can't magically know
>> which file is a video and which is not) you don't need to use the
>> advance seach just follow these steps:
>>
>> 1. Make sure the places where you store your videos are indexed
>> 2. Windows + F
>> 3. Enter "*.avi OR *.mpg OR *.mpeg OR *.mkv OR *.ogm OR *.rmvb"
>>
>> While this might not find all video-files (I've skipped some of the less
>> used extensions I know of) it will find most of them.
>>
>> For more tips on searching click on the desktop, press F1, enter
>> "search" in the box, press enter, click on "Tips for finding files" and
>> read.
>>
>> --
>> Erik Wikström
>>