There is a Windows Calander program, the Gadget Calander, then the calander
within the clock that is located at the bottom right of the task bar.



Why don't all these calanders work together as one program? Basically, the
calander can be viewed/accessed under gadgets, then it can be accessed under
the clock, and it can be accessed wherever under the start menu.

The same concept should apply to the clock, which somehow seems to not be
connected to each other either.

Also, is it possible for cellphones that are connectable to my computer able
to sync it's calander and contact list?

Frank

They are all separate programs. The calender on the Start menu is new with
Vista. The Gadget calender is simply a gadget. These can be created to mimic
just about anything on the system or external to the system. The same
applies to the clocks.

I have no idea about the cell phone and contacts?
--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FAA08B43-0798-461E-8BCB-67F72DAC68F3@microsoft.com...
> There is a Windows Calander program, the Gadget Calander, then the
> calander
> within the clock that is located at the bottom right of the task bar.
>
> Why don't all these calanders work together as one program? Basically,
> the
> calander can be viewed/accessed under gadgets, then it can be accessed
> under
> the clock, and it can be accessed wherever under the start menu.
>
> The same concept should apply to the clock, which somehow seems to not be
> connected to each other either.
>
> Also, is it possible for cellphones that are connectable to my computer
> able
> to sync it's calander and contact list?

Thanks for verifying my claims over the calander and clock programs that have
been maid available from Microsoft's default software with Vista. However,
the concern is aimed towards utilizing an update to merge these programs into
one program; one clock program and one calander program.

+++

The cellphone features would simply make life a little more organized by
being able to sync contacts and calanders. I have a IZAR V3xx(RAZR) and I
can connect it to my computer via usb cord. Life would be smoother if I can
edit my calander on my computer and at the same time be able to have it
swiftly copied over to my cellphone with ease.

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> Frank
>
> They are all separate programs. The calender on the Start menu is new with
> Vista. The Gadget calender is simply a gadget. These can be created to mimic
> just about anything on the system or external to the system. The same
> applies to the clocks.
>
> I have no idea about the cell phone and contacts?
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FAA08B43-0798-461E-8BCB-67F72DAC68F3@microsoft.com...
> > There is a Windows Calander program, the Gadget Calander, then the
> > calander
> > within the clock that is located at the bottom right of the task bar.
> >
> > Why don't all these calanders work together as one program? Basically,
> > the
> > calander can be viewed/accessed under gadgets, then it can be accessed
> > under
> > the clock, and it can be accessed wherever under the start menu.
> >
> > The same concept should apply to the clock, which somehow seems to not be
> > connected to each other either.
> >
> > Also, is it possible for cellphones that are connectable to my computer
> > able
> > to sync it's calander and contact list?
>
>

Frank

I guess I wasn't clear in my reply. You cannot merge these programs since
they are totally different. The clock in the lower right notification area
is built into Windows, part of the operating system.

The Sidebar Gadgets are just simple applications that can be created by just
about anybody.

The Calendar program is a completely separate software program that is
simply added to Vista because people asked for this type of application to
keep track of appointments and etc.

The only thing they have in common is that they show the same type of
information.

If you want a program that performs all of these functions, I am sure there
are some on the market.



--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0FF878DF-F464-4CDA-A09E-3FED6D832A36@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for verifying my claims over the calander and clock programs that
> have
> been maid available from Microsoft's default software with Vista.
> However,
> the concern is aimed towards utilizing an update to merge these programs
> into
> one program; one clock program and one calander program.
>
> +++
>
> The cellphone features would simply make life a little more organized by
> being able to sync contacts and calanders. I have a IZAR V3xx(RAZR) and I
> can connect it to my computer via usb cord. Life would be smoother if I
> can
> edit my calander on my computer and at the same time be able to have it
> swiftly copied over to my cellphone with ease.
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
>> Frank
>>
>> They are all separate programs. The calender on the Start menu is new
>> with
>> Vista. The Gadget calender is simply a gadget. These can be created to
>> mimic
>> just about anything on the system or external to the system. The same
>> applies to the clocks.
>>
>> I have no idea about the cell phone and contacts?
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FAA08B43-0798-461E-8BCB-67F72DAC68F3@microsoft.com...
>> > There is a Windows Calander program, the Gadget Calander, then the
>> > calander
>> > within the clock that is located at the bottom right of the task bar.
>> >
>> > Why don't all these calanders work together as one program? Basically,
>> > the
>> > calander can be viewed/accessed under gadgets, then it can be accessed
>> > under
>> > the clock, and it can be accessed wherever under the start menu.
>> >
>> > The same concept should apply to the clock, which somehow seems to not
>> > be
>> > connected to each other either.
>> >
>> > Also, is it possible for cellphones that are connectable to my computer
>> > able
>> > to sync it's calander and contact list?
>>
>>

Oh ok, there was merely a moment of frustration after installing Vista onto a
fresh hard drive. Basically, I saw multiple versions of calanders and
clocks, and I thought "woa" hold on a second. This isn't a "mom's and pop's
computer shop-founded software, this is from Microsoft. How is it that the
basic and origional files that come with an Operating System Disk come with
multiple, yet not entirely similar software. That's like having 3 different
pairs of shoes and 2 different pairs of sandals, you only NEED one, the rest
are for accessorising. But we are talking about the digital world where bulk
is a bad thing.

See my concept?

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> Frank
>
> I guess I wasn't clear in my reply. You cannot merge these programs since
> they are totally different. The clock in the lower right notification area
> is built into Windows, part of the operating system.
>
> The Sidebar Gadgets are just simple applications that can be created by just
> about anybody.
>
> The Calendar program is a completely separate software program that is
> simply added to Vista because people asked for this type of application to
> keep track of appointments and etc.
>
> The only thing they have in common is that they show the same type of
> information.
>
> If you want a program that performs all of these functions, I am sure there
> are some on the market.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0FF878DF-F464-4CDA-A09E-3FED6D832A36@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for verifying my claims over the calander and clock programs that
> > have
> > been maid available from Microsoft's default software with Vista.
> > However,
> > the concern is aimed towards utilizing an update to merge these programs
> > into
> > one program; one clock program and one calander program.
> >
> > +++
> >
> > The cellphone features would simply make life a little more organized by
> > being able to sync contacts and calanders. I have a IZAR V3xx(RAZR) and I
> > can connect it to my computer via usb cord. Life would be smoother if I
> > can
> > edit my calander on my computer and at the same time be able to have it
> > swiftly copied over to my cellphone with ease.
> >
> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> They are all separate programs. The calender on the Start menu is new
> >> with
> >> Vista. The Gadget calender is simply a gadget. These can be created to
> >> mimic
> >> just about anything on the system or external to the system. The same
> >> applies to the clocks.
> >>
> >> I have no idea about the cell phone and contacts?
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ronnie Vernon
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >>
> >> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FAA08B43-0798-461E-8BCB-67F72DAC68F3@microsoft.com...
> >> > There is a Windows Calander program, the Gadget Calander, then the
> >> > calander
> >> > within the clock that is located at the bottom right of the task bar.
> >> >
> >> > Why don't all these calanders work together as one program? Basically,
> >> > the
> >> > calander can be viewed/accessed under gadgets, then it can be accessed
> >> > under
> >> > the clock, and it can be accessed wherever under the start menu.
> >> >
> >> > The same concept should apply to the clock, which somehow seems to not
> >> > be
> >> > connected to each other either.
> >> >
> >> > Also, is it possible for cellphones that are connectable to my computer
> >> > able
> >> > to sync it's calander and contact list?
> >>
> >>
>

Frank

Yes, I do understand what you are saying. The problem is that people are
different and a feature that one user really likes, just doesn't appeal to
another user. Including many different ways to accomplish the same thing is
just part of the business.

An example is the Sidebar gadgets like the clock. There are 12 different
styles of clocks available for that one gadget and if none of these appeal
to you, there are literally hundreds of other styles that you can download.
They all do the same thing, which is simply tell you what time it is.

You'll see many people go to extremes and even take a chance on trashing the
entire system to simply change the initial start up screen, although this
screen is only displayed for a few seconds, and only displayed when you
reboot the computer.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F37E1C69-A834-42C5-B9AB-56E5F6686558@microsoft.com...
> Oh ok, there was merely a moment of frustration after installing Vista
> onto a
> fresh hard drive. Basically, I saw multiple versions of calanders and
> clocks, and I thought "woa" hold on a second. This isn't a "mom's and
> pop's
> computer shop-founded software, this is from Microsoft. How is it that
> the
> basic and origional files that come with an Operating System Disk come
> with
> multiple, yet not entirely similar software. That's like having 3
> different
> pairs of shoes and 2 different pairs of sandals, you only NEED one, the
> rest
> are for accessorising. But we are talking about the digital world where
> bulk
> is a bad thing.
>
> See my concept?
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
>> Frank
>>
>> I guess I wasn't clear in my reply. You cannot merge these programs since
>> they are totally different. The clock in the lower right notification
>> area
>> is built into Windows, part of the operating system.
>>
>> The Sidebar Gadgets are just simple applications that can be created by
>> just
>> about anybody.
>>
>> The Calendar program is a completely separate software program that is
>> simply added to Vista because people asked for this type of application
>> to
>> keep track of appointments and etc.
>>
>> The only thing they have in common is that they show the same type of
>> information.
>>
>> If you want a program that performs all of these functions, I am sure
>> there
>> are some on the market.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0FF878DF-F464-4CDA-A09E-3FED6D832A36@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for verifying my claims over the calander and clock programs
>> > that
>> > have
>> > been maid available from Microsoft's default software with Vista.
>> > However,
>> > the concern is aimed towards utilizing an update to merge these
>> > programs
>> > into
>> > one program; one clock program and one calander program.
>> >
>> > +++
>> >
>> > The cellphone features would simply make life a little more organized
>> > by
>> > being able to sync contacts and calanders. I have a IZAR V3xx(RAZR)
>> > and I
>> > can connect it to my computer via usb cord. Life would be smoother if
>> > I
>> > can
>> > edit my calander on my computer and at the same time be able to have it
>> > swiftly copied over to my cellphone with ease.
>> >
>> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Frank
>> >>
>> >> They are all separate programs. The calender on the Start menu is new
>> >> with
>> >> Vista. The Gadget calender is simply a gadget. These can be created to
>> >> mimic
>> >> just about anything on the system or external to the system. The same
>> >> applies to the clocks.
>> >>
>> >> I have no idea about the cell phone and contacts?
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Ronnie Vernon
>> >> Microsoft MVP
>> >> Windows Shell/User
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FAA08B43-0798-461E-8BCB-67F72DAC68F3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > There is a Windows Calander program, the Gadget Calander, then the
>> >> > calander
>> >> > within the clock that is located at the bottom right of the task
>> >> > bar.
>> >> >
>> >> > Why don't all these calanders work together as one program?
>> >> > Basically,
>> >> > the
>> >> > calander can be viewed/accessed under gadgets, then it can be
>> >> > accessed
>> >> > under
>> >> > the clock, and it can be accessed wherever under the start menu.
>> >> >
>> >> > The same concept should apply to the clock, which somehow seems to
>> >> > not
>> >> > be
>> >> > connected to each other either.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, is it possible for cellphones that are connectable to my
>> >> > computer
>> >> > able
>> >> > to sync it's calander and contact list?
>> >>
>> >>
>>

Oh, it's not necissarily the fact that there are multiple features of the
same type of product that come with the OS cd. It's just that they(ex:
calanders) should be able to come from one source on the computer.

Basically, it is like having Winamp on the as an icon on the system tray,
having a shortcut on the desktop and having it opened with a button on the
taskbar... No matter which one is clicked on, it will still open the same
program with it's same features.

I apologize for putting up this debate over having a simple program in one
area, having a more detailed version of it in another area, and a decorative
version in another area, however I just thought that if the gadget would be
able to have an "easy access" way of adding things onto my agenda, it would
be more comfortable. Instead I double click on a day(calander gadget) and
nothing happens except it switches from month view to day view.

Would Microsoft put up some type of update for these features that we have
been frantically discussing?

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> Frank
>
> Yes, I do understand what you are saying. The problem is that people are
> different and a feature that one user really likes, just doesn't appeal to
> another user. Including many different ways to accomplish the same thing is
> just part of the business.
>
> An example is the Sidebar gadgets like the clock. There are 12 different
> styles of clocks available for that one gadget and if none of these appeal
> to you, there are literally hundreds of other styles that you can download.
> They all do the same thing, which is simply tell you what time it is.
>
> You'll see many people go to extremes and even take a chance on trashing the
> entire system to simply change the initial start up screen, although this
> screen is only displayed for a few seconds, and only displayed when you
> reboot the computer.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F37E1C69-A834-42C5-B9AB-56E5F6686558@microsoft.com...
> > Oh ok, there was merely a moment of frustration after installing Vista
> > onto a
> > fresh hard drive. Basically, I saw multiple versions of calanders and
> > clocks, and I thought "woa" hold on a second. This isn't a "mom's and
> > pop's
> > computer shop-founded software, this is from Microsoft. How is it that
> > the
> > basic and origional files that come with an Operating System Disk come
> > with
> > multiple, yet not entirely similar software. That's like having 3
> > different
> > pairs of shoes and 2 different pairs of sandals, you only NEED one, the
> > rest
> > are for accessorising. But we are talking about the digital world where
> > bulk
> > is a bad thing.
> >
> > See my concept?
> >
> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> I guess I wasn't clear in my reply. You cannot merge these programs since
> >> they are totally different. The clock in the lower right notification
> >> area
> >> is built into Windows, part of the operating system.
> >>
> >> The Sidebar Gadgets are just simple applications that can be created by
> >> just
> >> about anybody.
> >>
> >> The Calendar program is a completely separate software program that is
> >> simply added to Vista because people asked for this type of application
> >> to
> >> keep track of appointments and etc.
> >>
> >> The only thing they have in common is that they show the same type of
> >> information.
> >>
> >> If you want a program that performs all of these functions, I am sure
> >> there
> >> are some on the market.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ronnie Vernon
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >>
> >> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0FF878DF-F464-4CDA-A09E-3FED6D832A36@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks for verifying my claims over the calander and clock programs
> >> > that
> >> > have
> >> > been maid available from Microsoft's default software with Vista.
> >> > However,
> >> > the concern is aimed towards utilizing an update to merge these
> >> > programs
> >> > into
> >> > one program; one clock program and one calander program.
> >> >
> >> > +++
> >> >
> >> > The cellphone features would simply make life a little more organized
> >> > by
> >> > being able to sync contacts and calanders. I have a IZAR V3xx(RAZR)
> >> > and I
> >> > can connect it to my computer via usb cord. Life would be smoother if
> >> > I
> >> > can
> >> > edit my calander on my computer and at the same time be able to have it
> >> > swiftly copied over to my cellphone with ease.
> >> >
> >> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Frank
> >> >>
> >> >> They are all separate programs. The calender on the Start menu is new
> >> >> with
> >> >> Vista. The Gadget calender is simply a gadget. These can be created to
> >> >> mimic
> >> >> just about anything on the system or external to the system. The same
> >> >> applies to the clocks.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have no idea about the cell phone and contacts?
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Ronnie Vernon
> >> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> >> Windows Shell/User
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:FAA08B43-0798-461E-8BCB-67F72DAC68F3@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > There is a Windows Calander program, the Gadget Calander, then the
> >> >> > calander
> >> >> > within the clock that is located at the bottom right of the task
> >> >> > bar.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Why don't all these calanders work together as one program?
> >> >> > Basically,
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > calander can be viewed/accessed under gadgets, then it can be
> >> >> > accessed
> >> >> > under
> >> >> > the clock, and it can be accessed wherever under the start menu.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The same concept should apply to the clock, which somehow seems to
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > connected to each other either.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Also, is it possible for cellphones that are connectable to my
> >> >> > computer
> >> >> > able
> >> >> > to sync it's calander and contact list?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>

I agree Frank. All I want to do is sync my gadget calendar with my Vista
calendar. The gadget seems useless if you can't add appointments to it. The
Google Desktop calendar works like the Vista calendar gadget should.

"Frank" wrote:

> Thanks for verifying my claims over the calander and clock programs that have
> been maid available from Microsoft's default software with Vista. However,
> the concern is aimed towards utilizing an update to merge these programs into
> one program; one clock program and one calander program.
>
> +++
>
> The cellphone features would simply make life a little more organized by
> being able to sync contacts and calanders. I have a IZAR V3xx(RAZR) and I
> can connect it to my computer via usb cord. Life would be smoother if I can
> edit my calander on my computer and at the same time be able to have it
> swiftly copied over to my cellphone with ease.
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
> > Frank
> >
> > They are all separate programs. The calender on the Start menu is new with
> > Vista. The Gadget calender is simply a gadget. These can be created to mimic
> > just about anything on the system or external to the system. The same
> > applies to the clocks.
> >
> > I have no idea about the cell phone and contacts?
> > --
> >
> > Ronnie Vernon
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows Shell/User
> >
> >
> > "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:FAA08B43-0798-461E-8BCB-67F72DAC68F3@microsoft.com...
> > > There is a Windows Calander program, the Gadget Calander, then the
> > > calander
> > > within the clock that is located at the bottom right of the task bar.
> > >
> > > Why don't all these calanders work together as one program? Basically,
> > > the
> > > calander can be viewed/accessed under gadgets, then it can be accessed
> > > under
> > > the clock, and it can be accessed wherever under the start menu.
> > >
> > > The same concept should apply to the clock, which somehow seems to not be
> > > connected to each other either.
> > >
> > > Also, is it possible for cellphones that are connectable to my computer
> > > able
> > > to sync it's calander and contact list?
> >
> >