Vista - Cannot see my files?

My wife purchased a new laptop with vista home premium. she pulled up a
document from the web that i wanted to make a permenant document of on her
pc. i made a tif file of it and the file appears nowhere. when i go to create
the file it shows up in the dialog box when it asks me where to save the
file, but when i go to that location through the explorer nothing is there.
where is my file? i saved it to the desktop and nothing showed up. everywhere
i saved it nothing is there. i spent an hour just trying to make a stupid tif
file and trying to find it. still never found it even though i can see it
through the dialog box. i really dislike vista. it took 2 weeks just to
figure out how to communicate with my other xp computers. its ridiculous. i
am no computer genius, but at least with the earlier versions i didn't need
to be. its hard enough trying to keep my wife from throwing the computer
through the window. i am close to totally cleaning it out and putting on xp.

Just how did you make a tif file?
Did you save it with a .tif extension?
Where did you try to save it? Try C:\users\youraccount\Documents



"jay" <jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F883C98C-49D6-4F76-AC1E-377E2D11C23E@microsoft.com...
> My wife purchased a new laptop with vista home premium. she pulled up a
> document from the web that i wanted to make a permenant document of on her
> pc. i made a tif file of it and the file appears nowhere. when i go to
> create
> the file it shows up in the dialog box when it asks me where to save the
> file, but when i go to that location through the explorer nothing is
> there.
> where is my file? i saved it to the desktop and nothing showed up.
> everywhere
> i saved it nothing is there. i spent an hour just trying to make a stupid
> tif
> file and trying to find it. still never found it even though i can see it
> through the dialog box. i really dislike vista. it took 2 weeks just to
> figure out how to communicate with my other xp computers. its ridiculous.
> i
> am no computer genius, but at least with the earlier versions i didn't
> need
> to be. its hard enough trying to keep my wife from throwing the computer
> through the window. i am close to totally cleaning it out and putting on
> xp.

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:26:02 -0700, jay wrote:

> My wife purchased a new laptop with vista home premium. she pulled up a
> document from the web that i wanted to make a permenant document of on her
> pc. i made a tif file of it and the file appears nowhere. when i go to create
> the file it shows up in the dialog box when it asks me where to save the
> file, but when i go to that location through the explorer nothing is there.
> where is my file? i saved it to the desktop and nothing showed up. everywhere
> i saved it nothing is there. i spent an hour just trying to make a stupid tif
> file and trying to find it. still never found it even though i can see it
> through the dialog box. i really dislike vista. it took 2 weeks just to
> figure out how to communicate with my other xp computers. its ridiculous. i
> am no computer genius, but at least with the earlier versions i didn't need
> to be. its hard enough trying to keep my wife from throwing the computer
> through the window. i am close to totally cleaning it out and putting on xp.

How are you creating the TIF file? Saving to a public folder, a folder in
your account or to one of your wife's folders?

I just pulled up a web page. Then did a print screen/paste to Paint/save as
TIF to my Pictures folder (not another user's). File was right where I
saved it and opened in Paint with a double click.

You mentioned the absence of the file after saving to your desktop. If you
look at Users\<your account>\desktop\ is the file listed in Explorer? What
happens if (back at the desktop), you right click and Refresh or press F5
(keyboard shortcut for refresh)? Does the file show up then?

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

there are no other accounts on the computer. just hers. i used the doument
printer with office 2003. i tried several times with the printer. all the
locations were under the profile that she logins under. i could even see the
folders that she made on her desktop when i saved the files. i even tried one
of the folders on her desktop. the tiff files show up when i used the printer
to retry saving the file, but when i would use the explorer or tried to get
to the file any other way it would not show up. its like windows didn't
acknowledge it.

"Sharon F" wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:26:02 -0700, jay wrote:
>
> > My wife purchased a new laptop with vista home premium. she pulled up a
> > document from the web that i wanted to make a permenant document of on her
> > pc. i made a tif file of it and the file appears nowhere. when i go to create
> > the file it shows up in the dialog box when it asks me where to save the
> > file, but when i go to that location through the explorer nothing is there.
> > where is my file? i saved it to the desktop and nothing showed up. everywhere
> > i saved it nothing is there. i spent an hour just trying to make a stupid tif
> > file and trying to find it. still never found it even though i can see it
> > through the dialog box. i really dislike vista. it took 2 weeks just to
> > figure out how to communicate with my other xp computers. its ridiculous. i
> > am no computer genius, but at least with the earlier versions i didn't need
> > to be. its hard enough trying to keep my wife from throwing the computer
> > through the window. i am close to totally cleaning it out and putting on xp.
>
> How are you creating the TIF file? Saving to a public folder, a folder in
> your account or to one of your wife's folders?
>
> I just pulled up a web page. Then did a print screen/paste to Paint/save as
> TIF to my Pictures folder (not another user's). File was right where I
> saved it and opened in Paint with a double click.
>
> You mentioned the absence of the file after saving to your desktop. If you
> look at Users\<your account>\desktop\ is the file listed in Explorer? What
> happens if (back at the desktop), you right click and Refresh or press F5
> (keyboard shortcut for refresh)? Does the file show up then?
>
> --
> Sharon F
> MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
>

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:12:00 -0700, jay wrote:

> there are no other accounts on the computer. just hers. i used the doument
> printer with office 2003. i tried several times with the printer. all the
> locations were under the profile that she logins under. i could even see the
> folders that she made on her desktop when i saved the files. i even tried one
> of the folders on her desktop. the tiff files show up when i used the printer
> to retry saving the file, but when i would use the explorer or tried to get
> to the file any other way it would not show up. its like windows didn't
> acknowledge it.
>

I tried reproducing your steps:
Opened a web page, used File> Print> Print to MS Office Document Image.
This results in an MDI file. I can save to desktop or any folder and find
the MDI file in Explorer or with Microsoft Document Imaging's File> Open
dialog.

Opening the saved file displays the page content as expected: displayed as
3 pages since that's how many would be needed to print the web page on
standard sized printer paper.

I tried opening the file as a TIF. I tried saving as a TIF during the
described steps. I wasn't able to do either. The only way I could get Paint
to even see the file was to change "files of type" to "All files." It still
couldn't open the file (not a valid bitmap message). The default, "all
picture files," did not reveal the saved document image.

Later, from within Microsoft Document Imaging, I saved the file as a TIFF.
This file also appeared as expected in the several locations I saved it to
(desktop and two different folders). This TIFF file could be opened with MS
Office Document Imaging, Windows Photo Gallery, MS Office Picture Manager.
Paint still whined about "not a valid bitmap."

If you are saving the TIFF file differently or printing to the MS Office
Document Printer differently, you might want to adjust your steps.

Even if there is a mis-step in the sequence of steps that you are using
(I'm not saying there is, just "if"), I think that Vista (or Office) should
be sending up some kind of message about not being able to save the file.

If you reproduce the steps I've used and still can't get results, perhaps
Office 2003 needs to be repaired?

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

Hi,

I have the same problem. I'm a very experienced IT user, but I'm flummoxed
by this. Files in various formats just aren't visible. Frankly, there are so
many serious flaws in Vista that I feel angry with the Microsoft team for
releasing such a disgraceful piece of work. I've just upgraded to a powerful
home PC and chose Vista to give me some forward compatibility, but the
problems - disk thrashing (I have 4 Gb RAM), a search function which makies
no sense and returnms garbage results, and the inability to see files which I
know are there, are driving me to distraction. Unimpressed, guys.

"jay" wrote:

> My wife purchased a new laptop with vista home premium. she pulled up a
> document from the web that i wanted to make a permenant document of on her
> pc. i made a tif file of it and the file appears nowhere. when i go to create
> the file it shows up in the dialog box when it asks me where to save the
> file, but when i go to that location through the explorer nothing is there.
> where is my file? i saved it to the desktop and nothing showed up. everywhere
> i saved it nothing is there. i spent an hour just trying to make a stupid tif
> file and trying to find it. still never found it even though i can see it
> through the dialog box. i really dislike vista. it took 2 weeks just to
> figure out how to communicate with my other xp computers. its ridiculous. i
> am no computer genius, but at least with the earlier versions i didn't need
> to be. its hard enough trying to keep my wife from throwing the computer
> through the window. i am close to totally cleaning it out and putting on xp.

Hi, Jay.

The "when all else fails use brute force" method for finding files on the
hard drive: dir C:\*.tif /s/a

That's the current version of the good ol' Dir (for Directory) command from
MS-DOS days, with a couple of switches to make it find ALL files on the
drive, no matter which folder they are in and no matter which attributes may
be set.

Dir - produces the directory listing
C:\ - starts in the Root of Drive C:
*.tif - looks for all files with the .tif extension
/s - looks in subdirectories, too; since we're starting in the Root, this
looks in all folders on the drive
/a - lists ALL files, no matter their attributes, so it shows Hidden and
System files, too

If you've got a big drive with lots of files, you may have time for a cup of
coffee - or lunch. But if this don't find it, it ain't there.

Once you find it, you can figure out why Vista put it THERE- and how to make
it go where you want it next time.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

"jay" <jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F883C98C-49D6-4F76-AC1E-377E2D11C23E@microsoft.com...
> My wife purchased a new laptop with vista home premium. she pulled up a
> document from the web that i wanted to make a permenant document of on her
> pc. i made a tif file of it and the file appears nowhere. when i go to
> create
> the file it shows up in the dialog box when it asks me where to save the
> file, but when i go to that location through the explorer nothing is
> there.
> where is my file? i saved it to the desktop and nothing showed up.
> everywhere
> i saved it nothing is there. i spent an hour just trying to make a stupid
> tif
> file and trying to find it. still never found it even though i can see it
> through the dialog box. i really dislike vista. it took 2 weeks just to
> figure out how to communicate with my other xp computers. its ridiculous.
> i
> am no computer genius, but at least with the earlier versions i didn't
> need
> to be. its hard enough trying to keep my wife from throwing the computer
> through the window. i am close to totally cleaning it out and putting on
> xp.

it has changed look at dir /? to see the new one!

--

http://www.goldwatches.com/watches.asp?Brand=14
"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:83315B1F-320E-42E8-8FE5-1AF84F3D8DBD@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Jay.
>
> The "when all else fails use brute force" method for finding files on the
> hard drive: dir C:\*.tif /s/a
>
> That's the current version of the good ol' Dir (for Directory) command
> from MS-DOS days, with a couple of switches to make it find ALL files on
> the drive, no matter which folder they are in and no matter which
> attributes may be set.
>
> Dir - produces the directory listing
> C:\ - starts in the Root of Drive C:
> *.tif - looks for all files with the .tif extension
> /s - looks in subdirectories, too; since we're starting in the Root, this
> looks in all folders on the drive
> /a - lists ALL files, no matter their attributes, so it shows Hidden and
> System files, too
>
> If you've got a big drive with lots of files, you may have time for a cup
> of coffee - or lunch. But if this don't find it, it ain't there.
>
> Once you find it, you can figure out why Vista put it THERE- and how to
> make it go where you want it next time.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
>
> "jay" <jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F883C98C-49D6-4F76-AC1E-377E2D11C23E@microsoft.com...
>> My wife purchased a new laptop with vista home premium. she pulled up a
>> document from the web that i wanted to make a permenant document of on
>> her
>> pc. i made a tif file of it and the file appears nowhere. when i go to
>> create
>> the file it shows up in the dialog box when it asks me where to save the
>> file, but when i go to that location through the explorer nothing is
>> there.
>> where is my file? i saved it to the desktop and nothing showed up.
>> everywhere
>> i saved it nothing is there. i spent an hour just trying to make a stupid
>> tif
>> file and trying to find it. still never found it even though i can see it
>> through the dialog box. i really dislike vista. it took 2 weeks just to
>> figure out how to communicate with my other xp computers. its ridiculous.
>> i
>> am no computer genius, but at least with the earlier versions i didn't
>> need
>> to be. its hard enough trying to keep my wife from throwing the computer
>> through the window. i am close to totally cleaning it out and putting on
>> xp.
>

Hi, James.

WHAT has changed?

The Dir command still works for me just as it always has. And I use it
quite often in Vista, just as I did in Win2K and WinXP. It still works just
as I described it in my earlier post.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

"James Matthews" <jamesmatt18@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> it has changed look at dir /? to see the new one!
>
> --
>
> http://www.goldwatches.com/watches.asp?Brand=14
> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:83315B1F-320E-42E8-8FE5-1AF84F3D8DBD@microsoft.com...
>> Hi, Jay.
>>
>> The "when all else fails use brute force" method for finding files on the
>> hard drive: dir C:\*.tif /s/a
>>
>> That's the current version of the good ol' Dir (for Directory) command
>> from MS-DOS days, with a couple of switches to make it find ALL files on
>> the drive, no matter which folder they are in and no matter which
>> attributes may be set.
>>
>> Dir - produces the directory listing
>> C:\ - starts in the Root of Drive C:
>> *.tif - looks for all files with the .tif extension
>> /s - looks in subdirectories, too; since we're starting in the Root, this
>> looks in all folders on the drive
>> /a - lists ALL files, no matter their attributes, so it shows Hidden and
>> System files, too
>>
>> If you've got a big drive with lots of files, you may have time for a cup
>> of coffee - or lunch. But if this don't find it, it ain't there.
>>
>> Once you find it, you can figure out why Vista put it THERE- and how to
>> make it go where you want it next time.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "jay" <jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F883C98C-49D6-4F76-AC1E-377E2D11C23E@microsoft.com...
>>> My wife purchased a new laptop with vista home premium. she pulled up a
>>> document from the web that i wanted to make a permenant document of on
>>> her
>>> pc. i made a tif file of it and the file appears nowhere. when i go to
>>> create
>>> the file it shows up in the dialog box when it asks me where to save the
>>> file, but when i go to that location through the explorer nothing is
>>> there.
>>> where is my file? i saved it to the desktop and nothing showed up.
>>> everywhere
>>> i saved it nothing is there. i spent an hour just trying to make a
>>> stupid tif
>>> file and trying to find it. still never found it even though i can see
>>> it
>>> through the dialog box. i really dislike vista. it took 2 weeks just to
>>> figure out how to communicate with my other xp computers. its
>>> ridiculous. i
>>> am no computer genius, but at least with the earlier versions i didn't
>>> need
>>> to be. its hard enough trying to keep my wife from throwing the computer
>>> through the window. i am close to totally cleaning it out and putting on
>>> xp.