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Old 09-12-2007   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Recent Items not updating

I don't know when my problem started but I too recently loaded an anti-virus application (AVG).

As Earl mentioned, the icon for my Recent Items file is a special icon and the file name includes the work "Items." Dean-dean, do you have any other suggestions?

I did find one interesting point. If I'm logged on as a standard user and attempt to access the Recent Items file (using the shell:recent command) I'm told I need permission to access the file. It then ask me to enter the Admin. password. When I enter the correct password I'm "denied access" and told to use the "security tab" to gain access!

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Old 09-12-2007   #12 (permalink)
Earl R
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Re: Recent Items not updating

I had already done a search of the registry looking for any items with
"recent" that did not seem correct. I noted that each time the recent items
was listed as a directory it was exactly as you wrote.

When I try to open folder "recent items" or when I type shell:recent
command, a window pops up and closes before I can see what it is.


"dean-dean" wrote:
Quote:

> Well, my suggestion to compTMan was for the Recent Items folder that met the criteria of a generic icon and the name Recent, instead
> of Recent Items (which criteria indicates the desktop.ini is missing). Too, if the desktop.ini is missing, Delete will be in the
> context menu when right-clicking on the folder.
>
> Check this key in the Registry Editor:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
>
> In the left-hand pane, the default Data for the Name "Recent" (no quotes) should be:
>
> %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>
> (Note that in the registry, the folder is called Recent, not Recent Items: the path is exactly as written. The "Recent Items" name
> is a function of the desktop.ini.). And check this key:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders
>
> In the left-hand pane, the default Data for the Name "Recent" (no quotes) should be:
>
> C:\Users\(Your Name)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>
> Should you need to modify the Data values, log off and back on. Then type shell:recent to see if the folder pops up...
>
>
> "Earl R" <EarlR@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:BC986954-5413-4742-9269-188AA5BC4D38@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Thanks for trying but that doesn't work. I have used a third party cleaner
> > (Tweak VI) but the folder is the special folder for recent items and right
> > clicking on recent items in the start menu has always had the clear recent
> > items box. I tried your procedure anyway. The first problem I ran into was
> > there was no delete option in the right click dialogue box. I tried moving it
> > to another folder and that worked. BAsed on the warnings, there is a
> > desktop.ini file in that folder. I then followed your suggested - logged on
> > and logged off, the selected Start the Search and typed shell:recent. The
> > only response was that it could not fin that item. I tried opening a word
> > file, making changes and closing it. Then I checked recent items but it still
> > didn't contain the recently opened file.
> >
> > I use McAfee for security and I know they had a bad update in August that I
> > am still trying to fix. I wonder if that could have caused the problem. I am
> > still trying to get McAfee to run after hours of troubleshooting with McAfee.
> >
> > Does anyone have any other suggestions. This is a very irritating problem
> > for me.
> >
> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> If you've used a 3rd party cleaner, it may have deleted the desktop.ini in
> >> the Recent Items folder. If you navigate to C:\Users\(Your
> >> Name)AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows, does the Recent Items folder have a
> >> special icon? If it doesn't, and only shows the generic manila one, or if the
> >> folder is just called Recent (without the word Items), right-click on the
> >> Recent folder and choose Delete. Log Off and then Log On. Open your Start
> >> Menu and type, in the Start Search box:
> >>
> >> shell:recent
> >>
> >> Press Enter. This should restore the folder with the correct desktop.ini,
> >> which will then restore the right-click context menu item "Clear Recent
> >> Items List". (Right-click inside the Recent Items folder that pops up to
> >> test that, after having typed shell:recent).
> >>
> >> "compTMan" <compTMan.2ws8c6@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:compTMan.2ws8c6@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
> >> >
> >> > I also have the same problem, however I have noticed that my Admin. user
> >> > account "Recent Items" area does update properly. Only my standard user
> >> > accts. don't update the Recent Items area. I've found that by going to
> >> > the folder identified by Pengalo above
> >> > (C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent) my Admin.
> >> > user ID has a "Recent Items" file while my other user ID's don't have
> >> > this file. So that's the issue. The question is how do we correct it?
> >> > I could copy the file from Admin. and paste it in one of the user ID's
> >> > to see if that helps but I think there should also be some Registry
> >> > changes required to get it to be used properly.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > compTMan
> >>
>
>
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Old 09-12-2007   #13 (permalink)
dean-dean
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Re: Recent Items not updating

Actually, the folder popping up and disappearing occurs when "Store and display a list of recently opened files" is not checked in
Taskbar and Start Menu Properties. Right-click on the Start Menu button on your Taskbar, and choose Properties. On the Start Menu
tab of that dialog, make sure, under the Privacy section, that that entry has a checkmark (Apply, OK). Then try the shell:recent
command again.

"Earl R" <EarlR@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:AF7848F6-A9D1-4DE2-A983-39AF38B829E5@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I had already done a search of the registry looking for any items with
> "recent" that did not seem correct. I noted that each time the recent items
> was listed as a directory it was exactly as you wrote.
>
> When I try to open folder "recent items" or when I type shell:recent
> command, a window pops up and closes before I can see what it is.
>
>
> "dean-dean" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Well, my suggestion to compTMan was for the Recent Items folder that met the criteria of a generic icon and the name Recent,
>> instead
>> of Recent Items (which criteria indicates the desktop.ini is missing). Too, if the desktop.ini is missing, Delete will be in the
>> context menu when right-clicking on the folder.
>>
>> Check this key in the Registry Editor:
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
>>
>> In the left-hand pane, the default Data for the Name "Recent" (no quotes) should be:
>>
>> %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>>
>> (Note that in the registry, the folder is called Recent, not Recent Items: the path is exactly as written. The "Recent Items"
>> name
>> is a function of the desktop.ini.). And check this key:
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders
>>
>> In the left-hand pane, the default Data for the Name "Recent" (no quotes) should be:
>>
>> C:\Users\(Your Name)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>>
>> Should you need to modify the Data values, log off and back on. Then type shell:recent to see if the folder pops up...
>>
>>
>> "Earl R" <EarlR@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:BC986954-5413-4742-9269-188AA5BC4D38@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Thanks for trying but that doesn't work. I have used a third party cleaner
>> > (Tweak VI) but the folder is the special folder for recent items and right
>> > clicking on recent items in the start menu has always had the clear recent
>> > items box. I tried your procedure anyway. The first problem I ran into was
>> > there was no delete option in the right click dialogue box. I tried moving it
>> > to another folder and that worked. BAsed on the warnings, there is a
>> > desktop.ini file in that folder. I then followed your suggested - logged on
>> > and logged off, the selected Start the Search and typed shell:recent. The
>> > only response was that it could not fin that item. I tried opening a word
>> > file, making changes and closing it. Then I checked recent items but it still
>> > didn't contain the recently opened file.
>> >
>> > I use McAfee for security and I know they had a bad update in August that I
>> > am still trying to fix. I wonder if that could have caused the problem. I am
>> > still trying to get McAfee to run after hours of troubleshooting with McAfee.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any other suggestions. This is a very irritating problem
>> > for me.
>> >
>> > "dean-dean" wrote:
>> >
>> >> If you've used a 3rd party cleaner, it may have deleted the desktop.ini in
>> >> the Recent Items folder. If you navigate to C:\Users\(Your
>> >> Name)AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows, does the Recent Items folder have a
>> >> special icon? If it doesn't, and only shows the generic manila one, or if the
>> >> folder is just called Recent (without the word Items), right-click on the
>> >> Recent folder and choose Delete. Log Off and then Log On. Open your Start
>> >> Menu and type, in the Start Search box:
>> >>
>> >> shell:recent
>> >>
>> >> Press Enter. This should restore the folder with the correct desktop.ini,
>> >> which will then restore the right-click context menu item "Clear Recent
>> >> Items List". (Right-click inside the Recent Items folder that pops up to
>> >> test that, after having typed shell:recent).
>> >>
>> >> "compTMan" <compTMan.2ws8c6@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:compTMan.2ws8c6@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
>> >> >
>> >> > I also have the same problem, however I have noticed that my Admin. user
>> >> > account "Recent Items" area does update properly. Only my standard user
>> >> > accts. don't update the Recent Items area. I've found that by going to
>> >> > the folder identified by Pengalo above
>> >> > (C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent) my Admin.
>> >> > user ID has a "Recent Items" file while my other user ID's don't have
>> >> > this file. So that's the issue. The question is how do we correct it?
>> >> > I could copy the file from Admin. and paste it in one of the user ID's
>> >> > to see if that helps but I think there should also be some Registry
>> >> > changes required to get it to be used properly.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > compTMan
>> >>
>>
>>
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Old 09-12-2007   #14 (permalink)
dean-dean
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Re: Recent Items not updating

Try this, compTMan, (substitute USERNAME for the actual name of the account):

1. Right-click Command Prompt, and choose Run as Administrator. Type the
following command, and then press ENTER:

takeown /f C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent

2. Type the following command, and then press ENTER to grant
administrators full access to the file:

icacls C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent /grant administrators:F

3. Then type:

icacls C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent /grant USERNAME_PC/USERNAME:F

Press ENTER.


"compTMan" <compTMan.2wt9u7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:compTMan.2wt9u7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>
> I don't know when my problem started but I too recently loaded an
> anti-virus application (AVG).
>
> As Earl mentioned, the icon for my Recent Items file is a special icon
> and the file name includes the work "Items." Dean-dean, do you have any
> other suggestions?
>
> I did find one interesting point. If I'm logged on as a standard user
> and attempt to access the Recent Items file (using the shell:recent
> command) I'm told I need permission to access the file. It then ask me
> to enter the Admin. password. When I enter the correct password I'm
> "denied access" and told to use the "security tab" to gain access!
>
>
> --
> compTMan
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Old 09-12-2007   #15 (permalink)
Earl R
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Re: Recent Items not updating

This didn't work either. I got an error message on instruction 3. In any
case, it had no effect.

Earl

"dean-dean" wrote:
Quote:

> Try this, compTMan, (substitute USERNAME for the actual name of the account):
>
> 1. Right-click Command Prompt, and choose Run as Administrator. Type the
> following command, and then press ENTER:
>
> takeown /f C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>
> 2. Type the following command, and then press ENTER to grant
> administrators full access to the file:
>
> icacls C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent /grant administrators:F
>
> 3. Then type:
>
> icacls C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent /grant USERNAME_PC/USERNAME:F
>
> Press ENTER.
>
>
> "compTMan" <compTMan.2wt9u7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:compTMan.2wt9u7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

> >
> > I don't know when my problem started but I too recently loaded an
> > anti-virus application (AVG).
> >
> > As Earl mentioned, the icon for my Recent Items file is a special icon
> > and the file name includes the work "Items." Dean-dean, do you have any
> > other suggestions?
> >
> > I did find one interesting point. If I'm logged on as a standard user
> > and attempt to access the Recent Items file (using the shell:recent
> > command) I'm told I need permission to access the file. It then ask me
> > to enter the Admin. password. When I enter the correct password I'm
> > "denied access" and told to use the "security tab" to gain access!
> >
> >
> > --
> > compTMan
>
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Old 09-12-2007   #16 (permalink)
Ronnie Vernon MVP
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Re: Recent Items not updating

Earl

Are you using Vista Ultimate or Business?

If so, right click the Recent Items on the Start Menu and select
Properties/Previous Versions Tab. Select the oldest file there and click the
Restore Button.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Earl R" <EarlR@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B0CCCFBC-3567-4F22-AFED-4FF332665C30@xxxxxx
Quote:

> This didn't work either. I got an error message on instruction 3. In any
> case, it had no effect.
>
> Earl
>
> "dean-dean" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Try this, compTMan, (substitute USERNAME for the actual name of the
>> account):
>>
>> 1. Right-click Command Prompt, and choose Run as Administrator. Type the
>> following command, and then press ENTER:
>>
>> takeown /f C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>>
>> 2. Type the following command, and then press ENTER to grant
>> administrators full access to the file:
>>
>> icacls C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent /grant
>> administrators:F
>>
>> 3. Then type:
>>
>> icacls C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent /grant
>> USERNAME_PC/USERNAME:F
>>
>> Press ENTER.
>>
>>
>> "compTMan" <compTMan.2wt9u7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:compTMan.2wt9u7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>> >
>> > I don't know when my problem started but I too recently loaded an
>> > anti-virus application (AVG).
>> >
>> > As Earl mentioned, the icon for my Recent Items file is a special icon
>> > and the file name includes the work "Items." Dean-dean, do you have any
>> > other suggestions?
>> >
>> > I did find one interesting point. If I'm logged on as a standard user
>> > and attempt to access the Recent Items file (using the shell:recent
>> > command) I'm told I need permission to access the file. It then ask me
>> > to enter the Admin. password. When I enter the correct password I'm
>> > "denied access" and told to use the "security tab" to gain access!
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > compTMan
>>
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Old 09-12-2007   #17 (permalink)
dean-dean
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Re: Recent Items not updating

Earl, you aren't getting an "access denied" as was compTMan, so those
commands weren't appropriate to your situation. The behavior you are
describing is more like the the checkmark in "Store and display a list of
recently opened files", in Taskbar and Start Menu Properties, isn't
"sticking". Try toggling that entry; that is, turn it off, so that Recent
Items (on the right-hand side of the Menu) ISN'T listed in your Start Menu,
and then turn it back on, so that Recent Items IS listed in your Start Menu.
The sudden disappearance of the window when you type shell:recent acts just
as you describe, when that entry in Properties is not checked.

"Earl R" <EarlR@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B0CCCFBC-3567-4F22-AFED-4FF332665C30@xxxxxx
Quote:

> This didn't work either. I got an error message on instruction 3. In any
> case, it had no effect.
>
> Earl
>
> "dean-dean" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Try this, compTMan, (substitute USERNAME for the actual name of the
>> account):
>>
>> 1. Right-click Command Prompt, and choose Run as Administrator. Type the
>> following command, and then press ENTER:
>>
>> takeown /f C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>>
>> 2. Type the following command, and then press ENTER to grant
>> administrators full access to the file:
>>
>> icacls C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent /grant
>> administrators:F
>>
>> 3. Then type:
>>
>> icacls C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent /grant
>> USERNAME_PC/USERNAME:F
>>
>> Press ENTER.
>>
>>
>> "compTMan" <compTMan.2wt9u7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:compTMan.2wt9u7@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>> >
>> > I don't know when my problem started but I too recently loaded an
>> > anti-virus application (AVG).
>> >
>> > As Earl mentioned, the icon for my Recent Items file is a special icon
>> > and the file name includes the work "Items." Dean-dean, do you have any
>> > other suggestions?
>> >
>> > I did find one interesting point. If I'm logged on as a standard user
>> > and attempt to access the Recent Items file (using the shell:recent
>> > command) I'm told I need permission to access the file. It then ask me
>> > to enter the Admin. password. When I enter the correct password I'm
>> > "denied access" and told to use the "security tab" to gain access!
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > compTMan
>>
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Old 09-14-2007   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Recent Items not updating

I checked the registry and found that for the "Recent" items in the first registry entry identified in the attachment below I only have:

%USERPROFILE%\Recent

and not the full path defined below.


And for the second registry defined below I have:

C:\Users\(Your Name)\Recent

again not the full path.

I hate making changes to the registry since this is such an important and delicate area but I will look into possibly making the change and report my findings back on this thread.



Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by dean-dean View Post
Well, my suggestion to compTMan was for the Recent Items folder that met the criteria of a generic icon and the name Recent, instead
of Recent Items (which criteria indicates the desktop.ini is missing). Too, if the desktop.ini is missing, Delete will be in the
context menu when right-clicking on the folder.

Check this key in the Registry Editor:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

In the left-hand pane, the default Data for the Name "Recent" (no quotes) should be:

%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent

(Note that in the registry, the folder is called Recent, not Recent Items: the path is exactly as written. The "Recent Items" name
is a function of the desktop.ini.). And check this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders

In the left-hand pane, the default Data for the Name "Recent" (no quotes) should be:

C:\Users\(Your Name)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent

Should you need to modify the Data values, log off and back on. Then type shell:recent to see if the folder pops up...


"Earl R" <EarlR@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:BC986954-5413-4742-9269-188AA5BC4D38@xxxxxx
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Old 09-16-2007   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Recent Items not updating

Well, I finally solved my problem with the help of some of dean-dean's advice. Just to recap my problem, I could log in as the Admin. and the "Recent Items" would update whenever a file is opened. However, when I'm logged in under a standard user ID the Recent Items area would not update.

By looking at the registry as defined earlier in this thread, my "Recent Items" for standard users was pointing to a shortcut located in the C:\User\(your name) directory. I could not determine where the shortcut was pointing because if I attempted to open it's properties I was denied access because I "didn't have permission" (even if I was logged in as the Admin.). So taking the advice of dean-dean earlier in this thread I deleted the shortcut file and entered the SHELL:RECENT command in the "Start Search" area of the START menu to create the special file required for the Recent Items area. This apparently worked because the Recent Items window opened.

I then went to the START menu but did not see the "Recent Items" menu item, so taking another of dean-dean's suggestions I opened the "properties" area of the START button and cleared the checks on the following:

"Store and display a list of recently opened files..."
"Store and display a list of recently opened program..."

I performed a restart, logged back into my standard user ID (not my Admin. ID), and opened the properties area of the START button again. I reselected the two items above (replaced the checks for each item) and clicked APPLY. My Recent Items area now works properly, recording any files that are opened.

Thanks dean-dean for all your help and I hope my narative here helps others to solve their problem as well.
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Old 09-17-2007   #20 (permalink)
Ronnie Vernon MVP
Guest


 
 

Re: Recent Items not updating

compTman

Thank you very much for the excellent recap, I wish more people would take
the time to return and do this.
Thanks to Dean for providing the solution.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"compTMan" <compTMan.2x0urh@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:compTMan.2x0urh@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>
> Well, I finally solved my problem with the help of some of dean-dean's
> advice. Just to recap my problem, I could log in as the Admin. and the
> "Recent Items" would update whenever a file is opened. However, when
> I'm logged in under a standard user ID the Recent Items area would not
> update.
>
> By looking at the registry as defined earlier in this thread, my
> "Recent Items" for standard users was pointing to a shortcut located in
> the C:\User\(your name) directory. I could not determine where the
> shortcut was pointing because if I attempted to open it's properties I
> was denied access because I "didn't have permission" (even if I was
> logged in as the Admin.). So taking the advice of dean-dean earlier in
> this thread I deleted the shortcut file and entered the SHELL:RECENT
> command in the "Start Search" area of the START menu to create the
> special file required for the Recent Items area. This apparently worked
> because the Recent Items window opened.
>
> I then went to the START menu but did not see the "Recent Items" menu
> item, so taking another of dean-dean's suggestions I opened the
> "properties" area of the START button and cleared the checks on the
> following:
>
> "Store and display a list of recently opened files..."
> "Store and display a list of recently opened program..."
>
> I performed a restart, logged back into my standard user ID (not my
> Admin. ID), and opened the properties area of the START button again. I
> reselected the two items above (replaced the checks for each item) and
> clicked APPLY. My Recent Items area now works properly, recording any
> files that are opened.
>
> Thanks dean-dean for all your help and I hope my narative here helps
> others to solve their problem as well.
>
>
> --
> compTMan
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