Vista - Text Search in Vista

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:35:27 -0500, R. C. White wrote:

> Hi, Sharon.
>
> Thanks for that tip! I didn't know that. ;<)

Hi, RC!
You're welcome! ;-)
--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

Hello.
I'm 100 with Leanna.
Finding text within a document (file) in Vista seems to be
a frustrating experience — despite the certifications of
other contributors between Leanna 6/28 and Leanna 6/29
…
Honestly: I don't understand what they mean or aim at
(Sorry Pru Joy, Dave Wood, Neil Harley, but it might be
because I am still missing something …): It still does not
work — properly.

Watch this:
(After some tedious laboration with "IndexAlternative");

Make a *.txt-file (F) (f.ex. in NotePad);
Type in some text;
Save (F) on a known directory (D);
Copy some text (T) in (F) to ClipBoard;
Open FileExplorer to location (D) (to be safe);
Press function key F3, the Vista search engine opens;
Press WindowsKey to make an initial Test;
Try first to search on the Start menu by pasting in (T),
try also with quotation marks f.ex. "Try This":
NOTHING HAPPENS. No results.
Cut "Try This" to Clip and return to the opened Search
Engine from F3:
Paste "Try this" into the search textbox;
Voila. Perfect result. Vista finds it!
It also works without quotes by initializing
Clicking the Search-button first, then
Click »Search in file content» logo.

BUT STILL
NOT IN A *.DOC-file;
NOT IN A *.WPS-file;
NOT IN A …-file;

Leanna and similar (please, I bleed with you);
It works — and it doesn't work.

ALMOST the SAME was also the case in Windows XP!;
XP »Could» find text in *.txt-files, but only partially in
*.doc-files — namely IF the phrase was NOT preceded by
a WORD SYMBOL FORMATTED CHARACTER (which forces
special coding in WORD-documents, i.e., doc-files).
The type *.wps-file (from Microsoft WORKS) did not work at
all, and so it is still in Windows Vista.
MOST people do NOT write such type text. But mathematicians do.
Lots of it. So: I made my own Windows Hard Disk Explorer on
my XP-computer with the help of Delphi4 (and it works
Heaven, and I am about to export it on my new Vista
computer too unless someone can convince me such a
most fine Vista-tool already exists!). I bleed with all the
others (Leanna) who does not know how to do this
excellent work.

So, in Abstarct:
Vista cannot do IT.

My suggestion — Until som Expert reveals the hidden
treasure:
Microsoft has Obvious Programming Problem: it might
even be so that DIFFERENT PROGRAM COPIES HAVE
DIFFERENT RESULTS — on different continets: We have
different references.

Compare:
I just bought my Vista-computer days ago: TWO NEW
COMPUTERS at the shop OnOff DID NOT WORK:
"Input Not Supported" said Vista. Tough days.

I had to switch to another model to even get in. And
WHEN I did, PASSWORD ERROR occupied us for a while!

Bad news, Microsoft.
Simple as that.

What can we do? Any suggestions?
Windows Vista clearly has heart problem.

(Thank you all Type
Leanna [Text Search in Vista],
Sixhearts [How to search for content inside files],
Bev [Search for text in documents],
Just Askin [Search all files in a folder for a string]
and others too).

PS
The suggestion from Ilia Sacson [MS] to install a
"Windows Desktop Search" program has made no
change: it is still only txt-files that works.
DS
--
wkg/bj


"Leanna" wrote:

> Please try again to answer my question. Suppose I want to search for a
> particular document occurring in a particular folder. In XP, we had the
> option to browse for the folder we wanted to look in, and then we typed the
> key word to be searched for, and bingo, it brought up any occurrence of that
> key word in the title of any document within that particular folder. In the
> new Vista search screen, I find no such option. Please help, it's driving me
> crazy.
>
>
> "Neil Harley" wrote:
>
> > outtolunch wrote:
> > > I'm not sure if I'm just dense but in XP under Advanced Search it was easy to
> > > search documents for text even if you didn't know the documents name. You
> > > could type in *.* or *.doc and then do a search for specific word or text. I
> > > am unable to see how this is done in Vista. Can someone point to the solution?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Start (Orb) / type in the Start Search entry box.
> >
> > If you want to locate specific text within an indexed location type the
> > phrase in commas. If a lot of results are returned just click on the
> > 'Show All Results' and then you can filter by type (Docs, Music etc)
> >
> > If what you're looking for isn't returned and you know for sure that it
> > should be, make sure the location where the file is stored is being indexed.
> >
> > hth
> >

Re: the Start Menu search. The Start Menu doesn't search as many locations
as the Search box in explorer by default. You can change this behavior by
right-clicking on the start button, going to "Properties" and then
"Customize". You can switch from "Search just this users files" and "Search
entire index" which makes the Start Menu work more like the Start -> Search
window.


"BJ" <BJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:74CE79C8-AC86-474B-A750-17167EABFC3C@microsoft.com...
> Hello.
> I'm 100 with Leanna.
> Finding text within a document (file) in Vista seems to be
> a frustrating experience — despite the certifications of
> other contributors between Leanna 6/28 and Leanna 6/29
> …
> Honestly: I don't understand what they mean or aim at
> (Sorry Pru Joy, Dave Wood, Neil Harley, but it might be
> because I am still missing something …): It still does not
> work — properly.
>
> Watch this:
> (After some tedious laboration with "IndexAlternative");
>
> Make a *.txt-file (F) (f.ex. in NotePad);
> Type in some text;
> Save (F) on a known directory (D);
> Copy some text (T) in (F) to ClipBoard;
> Open FileExplorer to location (D) (to be safe);
> Press function key F3, the Vista search engine opens;
> Press WindowsKey to make an initial Test;
> Try first to search on the Start menu by pasting in (T),
> try also with quotation marks f.ex. "Try This":
> NOTHING HAPPENS. No results.
> Cut "Try This" to Clip and return to the opened Search
> Engine from F3:
> Paste "Try this" into the search textbox;
> Voila. Perfect result. Vista finds it!
> It also works without quotes by initializing
> Clicking the Search-button first, then
> Click »Search in file content» logo.
>
> BUT STILL
> NOT IN A *.DOC-file;
> NOT IN A *.WPS-file;
> NOT IN A …-file;
>
> Leanna and similar (please, I bleed with you);
> It works — and it doesn't work.
>
> ALMOST the SAME was also the case in Windows XP!;
> XP »Could» find text in *.txt-files, but only partially in
> *.doc-files — namely IF the phrase was NOT preceded by
> a WORD SYMBOL FORMATTED CHARACTER (which forces
> special coding in WORD-documents, i.e., doc-files).
> The type *.wps-file (from Microsoft WORKS) did not work at
> all, and so it is still in Windows Vista.
> MOST people do NOT write such type text. But mathematicians do.
> Lots of it. So: I made my own Windows Hard Disk Explorer on
> my XP-computer with the help of Delphi4 (and it works
> Heaven, and I am about to export it on my new Vista
> computer too unless someone can convince me such a
> most fine Vista-tool already exists!). I bleed with all the
> others (Leanna) who does not know how to do this
> excellent work.
>
> So, in Abstarct:
> Vista cannot do IT.
>
> My suggestion — Until som Expert reveals the hidden
> treasure:
> Microsoft has Obvious Programming Problem: it might
> even be so that DIFFERENT PROGRAM COPIES HAVE
> DIFFERENT RESULTS — on different continets: We have
> different references.
>
> Compare:
> I just bought my Vista-computer days ago: TWO NEW
> COMPUTERS at the shop OnOff DID NOT WORK:
> "Input Not Supported" said Vista. Tough days.
>
> I had to switch to another model to even get in. And
> WHEN I did, PASSWORD ERROR occupied us for a while!
>
> Bad news, Microsoft.
> Simple as that.
>
> What can we do? Any suggestions?
> Windows Vista clearly has heart problem.
>
> (Thank you all Type
> Leanna [Text Search in Vista],
> Sixhearts [How to search for content inside files],
> Bev [Search for text in documents],
> Just Askin [Search all files in a folder for a string]
> and others too).
>
> PS
> The suggestion from Ilia Sacson [MS] to install a
> "Windows Desktop Search" program has made no
> change: it is still only txt-files that works.
> DS
> --
> wkg/bj
>
>
> "Leanna" wrote:
>
>> Please try again to answer my question. Suppose I want to search for a
>> particular document occurring in a particular folder. In XP, we had the
>> option to browse for the folder we wanted to look in, and then we typed
>> the
>> key word to be searched for, and bingo, it brought up any occurrence of
>> that
>> key word in the title of any document within that particular folder. In
>> the
>> new Vista search screen, I find no such option. Please help, it's driving
>> me
>> crazy.
>>
>>
>> "Neil Harley" wrote:
>>
>> > outtolunch wrote:
>> > > I'm not sure if I'm just dense but in XP under Advanced Search it was
>> > > easy to
>> > > search documents for text even if you didn't know the documents name.
>> > > You
>> > > could type in *.* or *.doc and then do a search for specific word or
>> > > text. I
>> > > am unable to see how this is done in Vista. Can someone point to the
>> > > solution?
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Start (Orb) / type in the Start Search entry box.
>> >
>> > If you want to locate specific text within an indexed location type the
>> > phrase in commas. If a lot of results are returned just click on the
>> > 'Show All Results' and then you can filter by type (Docs, Music etc)
>> >
>> > If what you're looking for isn't returned and you know for sure that it
>> > should be, make sure the location where the file is stored is being
>> > indexed.
>> >
>> > hth
>> >