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Vista thinks Save As is same as download

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Old 06-29-2007   #1 (permalink)
joxy
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Vista thinks Save As is same as download

Whenever a .htm page is "saved as" the download box appears and there is a
noticeable delay before the saved file appears in its location. The download
box is a nuisance - how to stop it appearing?
Old 06-29-2007   #2 (permalink)
Tim
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Re: Vista thinks Save As is same as download

Are you annoyed at the seemingly slow speed in saving the page or are you
annoyed that an extra box appears (or maybe both)? The speed is dependant on
a combination of your PC's speed, how efficient the OS is, your Internet
connection speed and maybe how busy the web site is. So you could upgrade to
a faster PC and pay big bucks for an OC3 connection ;-) Your choice. The
download box appears because that's the way Windows was written. I suspect
the only way to stop it from appearing is to not download a web page.

How do you define "a noticable delay"? Seconds, hours, days, weeks?

Tim

"joxy" <joxy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE623571-110B-4D87-B570-60EECB605864@microsoft.com...
> Whenever a .htm page is "saved as" the download box appears and there is a
> noticeable delay before the saved file appears in its location. The
> download
> box is a nuisance - how to stop it appearing?


Old 06-30-2007   #3 (permalink)
joxy
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Re: Vista thinks Save As is same as download

Both, but mainly the box. Dual core Athlon 64 4600 should be fast enough for
a simple job like that. Vista should be able to cope also. It happens when
saving a file from one folder to another with a new name, so the web isn't
involved then. I don't recall XP producing the download box when saving pages
- does it?:-) Vista sure does and it's a nuisance. The delay can be up to 5
seconds, noticeable to me.

Old 06-30-2007   #4 (permalink)
cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
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Re: Vista thinks Save As is same as download

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:02:04 -0700, joxy

>Whenever a .htm page is "saved as" the download box appears and there is a
>noticeable delay before the saved file appears in its location. The download
>box is a nuisance - how to stop it appearing?


Save = save with existing name, type, path
Save As = prompt for new name, type, path

So I can't see how Save As cannot *not* pop up a dialog that is
essentially the same as seen when downloading a file. In fact, in
this contect, Save would do the same, unless you really were editing a
file in a place that you had the right to save to.

Or maybe I've got it wrong, and the dialog box you refer to is not the
"where should I save this?" dialog, but a progress dialog that appears
while the save is in progress. In effect, you'd be complaining that
saving HTML files is taking too long.

Are these HTML files from the 'net, another PC on the LAN, your own
HD, or somewhere else like a CD or USB stick?

Are these plain HTML, or are there lots of pictures etc. as part of
the file? I ask this, as (depending on how you save) the system may
have to gather all these loose files are save them as well, either
within the same .MHT file or as a related subdir with the .HTM

If you have such a page, and just want to save the text, then in the
Save As dialog, choose "HTML Text Only". That should leave out the
rest of the fluff (which should appear as blanks) and save just the
text, and should be a lot faster, too.

Also, consider that HTML is quite high-risk material, and often has
"hooks" to the site that's hosting it, or the ads. These may impose
extra processing, plus your defenses (av, etc.) may have to be
involved in the process as well.

Consider this factor if you have more than one av installed and
running resident, and/or more than one firewall software likewise.



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Old 07-02-2007   #5 (permalink)
joxy
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Firefox thinks Save As is same as download


Thanks very much for the details cquirke. This may be a Firefox rather than
a Vista problem though it doesn't happen with Firefox in WXP!
To reply: There ARE two boxes involved. The first is the normal "save to"
dialogue box - no problem. The second is Firefox's download box which
shouldn't appear at all, but does, immediately after the "save to" box, and
seems to be what causes the delay in saving - which is long enough for the
Vista equivalent of the egg-timer to appear for seconds.
The download box is meant for downloads of files from the Internet, but here
the Internet is not involved - it's about opening a .htm file stored in one
folder and saving it again to another folder, possibly on another partition,
and usually with a change of name. Most of the files are plain .htm, or files
with just a few small items in a _files folder.
Old 07-02-2007   #6 (permalink)
Charles W Davis
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Re: Firefox thinks Save As is same as download

Joxy,

I may be missing something, but can't you simply open Windows Explorer and
drag the files from one loaction to another?
"joxy" <joxy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A69EE753-6B1C-467B-B1F8-E067EDC93F41@microsoft.com...
>
> Thanks very much for the details cquirke. This may be a Firefox rather
> than
> a Vista problem though it doesn't happen with Firefox in WXP!
> To reply: There ARE two boxes involved. The first is the normal "save to"
> dialogue box - no problem. The second is Firefox's download box which
> shouldn't appear at all, but does, immediately after the "save to" box,
> and
> seems to be what causes the delay in saving - which is long enough for the
> Vista equivalent of the egg-timer to appear for seconds.
> The download box is meant for downloads of files from the Internet, but
> here
> the Internet is not involved - it's about opening a .htm file stored in
> one
> folder and saving it again to another folder, possibly on another
> partition,
> and usually with a change of name. Most of the files are plain .htm, or
> files
> with just a few small items in a _files folder.


Old 07-03-2007   #7 (permalink)
joxy
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Firefox thinks Save As is same as download

If it was just moving or copying files from one folder to another I could,
but as I mentioned - briefly, and in passing! - on 6/30/2007 2:44 PM PST this
is also about changing the name of the file. anyname.htm files are saved
separately from their associated files which go to a anyname_files folder. If
you try to change the name of the .htm you get a message saying the _files
will no longer be associated - quite rightly, and this is my way of getting
around that. The principle rermains: XP doesn't intrude the separate download
box into its "save as" procedure; Vista does, or something in Firefox makes
Vista do so.




"Charles W Davis" wrote:

> Joxy,
>
> I may be missing something, but can't you simply open Windows Explorer and
> drag the files from one loaction to another?

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