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Old 02-18-2008   #11 (permalink)
Kenny


 
 

Re: Windows Search service won't start

Has anyone found a solution to this problem I can't get it working tried
everything and nothing can't seem to get this activated again.

"Brad" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi Dave, good idea on checking the logs and rights, here's what I found.
>
> Events (logged in this order)
>
> Application log:
> EventID 1008 The Windows Search Service is attempting to remove the old
> catalog.
> EventID 1010 The Windows Search Service has successfully removed the old
> catalog.
> EventID 1004 The Windows Search service is creating the SystemIndex
> search index.
> EventID 1006 The Windows Search Service has failed to created the new
> system catalog. Internal error <1,0x800700b7>.
> EventID 1013 Windows Search Service stopped normally.
>
> System log:
> EventID 7036 The Windows Search service entered the stopped state.
> EventID 7024 The Windows Search service terminated with service-specific
> error 2147749155 (0x80040D23).
> EventID 7034 The Windows Search service terminated unexpectedly. It has
> done this 13 time(s).
>
> This pattern of errors constantly repeats.
>
> The "System" account has "full control" rights on the
> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search folder, as well as all the folder/files
> downstream from there.
>
> Brad
>
> =======================
>
> "Dave Wood [MS]" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Hi Brad,
> >
> > Sorry that Windows Search is not working for you. I have a couple of
> > suggestions, although I'm not sure what the issue is:
> >
> > - What does the event viewer say? {Event Viewer -> Windows Logs ->
> > Application is where most search-related events are shown}
> >
> > - Some people have reported that modifying the security permissions on the
> > whole of their drive can cause Search not to work. For example you might
> > 'take ownership' of of random folders to avoid unneeded prompts and
> > access-denied messages. But if you end up changing the permissions on
> > C:\programdata\microsoft\search so SYSTEM no longer has full access to this
> > folder than this may prevent search from working. I haven't verified this
> > but it may be worth checking.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Brad" <Brad@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news690854B-5C31-4D80-8FA3-D7862498CEA2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > > Brink, thanks so much for the link. It was written in a way that was easy
> > > to
> > > read and follow - very concise. Excellent "how-to"! However, after
> > > following each and every step, then rebooting, my Windows Search service
> > > still will not start (automatically or manually).
> > >
> > > note: In the "how to", it suggested that the folder
> > > "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Config" folder would be missing.
> > > Mine
> > > was present and contained the two files: gathrprm.txt and schema.txt.
> > > Just
> > > as a precaution, I went ahead and deleted my existing Config folder,
> > > re-created it and replaced the two .txt files.
> > >
> > > Have any other suggestions in your Great Bag'O-Tricks?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > BT
> > >
> > >
> > > "brink" wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Brad;430130 Wrote:
> > >> > I am having a terrible experience with getting the "Windows Search"
> > >> > service
> > >> > to start/run. I would greatly appreciate advice/suggestions for finding
> > >> > a
> > >> > "fix" for it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Here are the details so far.
> > >> >
> > >> > Similarities to previously mentioned "Windows Search" service problems:
> > >> >
> > >> > When I attempt to start the "Windows Search" service manually, I get an
> > >> > error message box which says: "Windows could not start the Windows
> > >> > Search on
> > >> > Local Computer. For more information, review the System Event Log. If
> > >> > this
> > >> > is a non-Microsoft service, contact the service vendor, and refer to
> > >> > service-specific error code - 2147218141)"
> > >> >
> > >> > Related services (RPC and DCOM S.P.L.) running, no problems (that I can
> > >> > tell).
> > >> >
> > >> > In the Control Panel, in the Indexing Options dialog box, the window
> > >> > displayes "Indexing not running". Both the "Modify" and "Advanced"
> > >> > buttons
> > >> > are grayed out (I can not make any changes).
> > >> >
> > >> > running SFC /scannow had no effect
> > >> >
> > >> > The folder: "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data " is present and has
> > >> > 3
> > >> > folders in it. They are: "Applications", "Config", and "Temp".
> > >> >
> > >> > The folder: "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Config" is present
> > >> > and
> > >> > contains two files: gathrprm.txt and schema.txt.
> > >> >
> > >> > Here is something that I thought seemed peculiar. In the registry at:
> > >> > "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> > >> > Search\Gather\Windows\SystemIndex\Sites\{s-1-5-21-2809944867-2680333499-3313531811-1107}\Paths\15"
> > >> > when I click on the "15", I get an error message saying, "15 cannot be
> > >> > opened. An error is preventing this key from being opened. Details: The
> > >> > system cannot find the file specified." Along that same registry path,
> > >> > under
> > >> > the "Sites" key, there are four peer keys; the one I mentioned and
> > >> > three more
> > >> > with similar names.
> > >> >
> > >> > Does the latter info shed any light as to what's going on with my PC? I
> > >> > am
> > >> > open to and would greatly appreciate any suggestions (short of totally
> > >> > reinstalling) anyone may have.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas/suggestions on helping me get this
> > >> > resolved,
> > >> > Brad
> > >> >
> > >> > ps: I have read Nevet's similar post on 7/31/2007
> > >>
> > >> Hi Brad,
> > >>
> > >> This will show you how to get it started and fixed for you.
> > >>
> > >> Index - Windows Search Service
> > >>
> > >> Shawn
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> brink
> > >>
> > >> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
> > >> _http://www.Vistax64.com (\"http://www.Vistax64.com\")_
> > >> *Please post feedback to help others.*
> > >>
> >
> >

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Old 02-18-2008   #12 (permalink)
Kenny


 
 

Re: Windows Search service won't start

Has anyone found a solution to this problem I can't get it working tried
everything and nothing can't seem to get this activated again.

"Brad" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi Dave, good idea on checking the logs and rights, here's what I found.
>
> Events (logged in this order)
>
> Application log:
> EventID 1008 The Windows Search Service is attempting to remove the old
> catalog.
> EventID 1010 The Windows Search Service has successfully removed the old
> catalog.
> EventID 1004 The Windows Search service is creating the SystemIndex
> search index.
> EventID 1006 The Windows Search Service has failed to created the new
> system catalog. Internal error <1,0x800700b7>.
> EventID 1013 Windows Search Service stopped normally.
>
> System log:
> EventID 7036 The Windows Search service entered the stopped state.
> EventID 7024 The Windows Search service terminated with service-specific
> error 2147749155 (0x80040D23).
> EventID 7034 The Windows Search service terminated unexpectedly. It has
> done this 13 time(s).
>
> This pattern of errors constantly repeats.
>
> The "System" account has "full control" rights on the
> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search folder, as well as all the folder/files
> downstream from there.
>
> Brad
>
> =======================
>
> "Dave Wood [MS]" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Hi Brad,
> >
> > Sorry that Windows Search is not working for you. I have a couple of
> > suggestions, although I'm not sure what the issue is:
> >
> > - What does the event viewer say? {Event Viewer -> Windows Logs ->
> > Application is where most search-related events are shown}
> >
> > - Some people have reported that modifying the security permissions on the
> > whole of their drive can cause Search not to work. For example you might
> > 'take ownership' of of random folders to avoid unneeded prompts and
> > access-denied messages. But if you end up changing the permissions on
> > C:\programdata\microsoft\search so SYSTEM no longer has full access to this
> > folder than this may prevent search from working. I haven't verified this
> > but it may be worth checking.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Brad" <Brad@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news690854B-5C31-4D80-8FA3-D7862498CEA2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > > Brink, thanks so much for the link. It was written in a way that was easy
> > > to
> > > read and follow - very concise. Excellent "how-to"! However, after
> > > following each and every step, then rebooting, my Windows Search service
> > > still will not start (automatically or manually).
> > >
> > > note: In the "how to", it suggested that the folder
> > > "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Config" folder would be missing.
> > > Mine
> > > was present and contained the two files: gathrprm.txt and schema.txt.
> > > Just
> > > as a precaution, I went ahead and deleted my existing Config folder,
> > > re-created it and replaced the two .txt files.
> > >
> > > Have any other suggestions in your Great Bag'O-Tricks?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > BT
> > >
> > >
> > > "brink" wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Brad;430130 Wrote:
> > >> > I am having a terrible experience with getting the "Windows Search"
> > >> > service
> > >> > to start/run. I would greatly appreciate advice/suggestions for finding
> > >> > a
> > >> > "fix" for it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Here are the details so far.
> > >> >
> > >> > Similarities to previously mentioned "Windows Search" service problems:
> > >> >
> > >> > When I attempt to start the "Windows Search" service manually, I get an
> > >> > error message box which says: "Windows could not start the Windows
> > >> > Search on
> > >> > Local Computer. For more information, review the System Event Log. If
> > >> > this
> > >> > is a non-Microsoft service, contact the service vendor, and refer to
> > >> > service-specific error code - 2147218141)"
> > >> >
> > >> > Related services (RPC and DCOM S.P.L.) running, no problems (that I can
> > >> > tell).
> > >> >
> > >> > In the Control Panel, in the Indexing Options dialog box, the window
> > >> > displayes "Indexing not running". Both the "Modify" and "Advanced"
> > >> > buttons
> > >> > are grayed out (I can not make any changes).
> > >> >
> > >> > running SFC /scannow had no effect
> > >> >
> > >> > The folder: "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data " is present and has
> > >> > 3
> > >> > folders in it. They are: "Applications", "Config", and "Temp".
> > >> >
> > >> > The folder: "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Config" is present
> > >> > and
> > >> > contains two files: gathrprm.txt and schema.txt.
> > >> >
> > >> > Here is something that I thought seemed peculiar. In the registry at:
> > >> > "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> > >> > Search\Gather\Windows\SystemIndex\Sites\{s-1-5-21-2809944867-2680333499-3313531811-1107}\Paths\15"
> > >> > when I click on the "15", I get an error message saying, "15 cannot be
> > >> > opened. An error is preventing this key from being opened. Details: The
> > >> > system cannot find the file specified." Along that same registry path,
> > >> > under
> > >> > the "Sites" key, there are four peer keys; the one I mentioned and
> > >> > three more
> > >> > with similar names.
> > >> >
> > >> > Does the latter info shed any light as to what's going on with my PC? I
> > >> > am
> > >> > open to and would greatly appreciate any suggestions (short of totally
> > >> > reinstalling) anyone may have.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas/suggestions on helping me get this
> > >> > resolved,
> > >> > Brad
> > >> >
> > >> > ps: I have read Nevet's similar post on 7/31/2007
> > >>
> > >> Hi Brad,
> > >>
> > >> This will show you how to get it started and fixed for you.
> > >>
> > >> Index - Windows Search Service
> > >>
> > >> Shawn
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> brink
> > >>
> > >> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
> > >> _http://www.Vistax64.com (\"http://www.Vistax64.com\")_
> > >> *Please post feedback to help others.*
> > >>
> >
> >
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Old 02-19-2008   #13 (permalink)
Dave Wood [MS]


 
 

Re: Windows Search service won't start

Did you try setting HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
Search\SetupCompletedSuccessfully to 0 in the registry and then rebooting?

"Kenny" <Kenny@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:2B973D81-F41E-4A4E-9BD4-222EDB6B608F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Has anyone found a solution to this problem I can't get it working tried
> everything and nothing can't seem to get this activated again.
>
> "Brad" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Hi Dave, good idea on checking the logs and rights, here's what I found.
>>
>> Events (logged in this order)
>>
>> Application log:
>> EventID 1008 The Windows Search Service is attempting to remove the
>> old
>> catalog.
>> EventID 1010 The Windows Search Service has successfully removed the
>> old
>> catalog.
>> EventID 1004 The Windows Search service is creating the SystemIndex
>> search index.
>> EventID 1006 The Windows Search Service has failed to created the new
>> system catalog. Internal error <1,0x800700b7>.
>> EventID 1013 Windows Search Service stopped normally.
>>
>> System log:
>> EventID 7036 The Windows Search service entered the stopped state.
>> EventID 7024 The Windows Search service terminated with
>> service-specific
>> error 2147749155 (0x80040D23).
>> EventID 7034 The Windows Search service terminated unexpectedly. It
>> has
>> done this 13 time(s).
>>
>> This pattern of errors constantly repeats.
>>
>> The "System" account has "full control" rights on the
>> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search folder, as well as all the folder/files
>> downstream from there.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> =======================
>>
>> "Dave Wood [MS]" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> > Hi Brad,
>> >
>> > Sorry that Windows Search is not working for you. I have a couple of
>> > suggestions, although I'm not sure what the issue is:
>> >
>> > - What does the event viewer say? {Event Viewer -> Windows Logs ->
>> > Application is where most search-related events are shown}
>> >
>> > - Some people have reported that modifying the security permissions on
>> > the
>> > whole of their drive can cause Search not to work. For example you
>> > might
>> > 'take ownership' of of random folders to avoid unneeded prompts and
>> > access-denied messages. But if you end up changing the permissions on
>> > C:\programdata\microsoft\search so SYSTEM no longer has full access to
>> > this
>> > folder than this may prevent search from working. I haven't verified
>> > this
>> > but it may be worth checking.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > "Brad" <Brad@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news690854B-5C31-4D80-8FA3-D7862498CEA2@xxxxxx
>> > > Brink, thanks so much for the link. It was written in a way that was
>> > > easy
>> > > to
>> > > read and follow - very concise. Excellent "how-to"! However, after
>> > > following each and every step, then rebooting, my Windows Search
>> > > service
>> > > still will not start (automatically or manually).
>> > >
>> > > note: In the "how to", it suggested that the folder
>> > > "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Config" folder would be
>> > > missing.
>> > > Mine
>> > > was present and contained the two files: gathrprm.txt and schema.txt.
>> > > Just
>> > > as a precaution, I went ahead and deleted my existing Config folder,
>> > > re-created it and replaced the two .txt files.
>> > >
>> > > Have any other suggestions in your Great Bag'O-Tricks?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > BT
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "brink" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Brad;430130 Wrote:
>> > >> > I am having a terrible experience with getting the "Windows
>> > >> > Search"
>> > >> > service
>> > >> > to start/run. I would greatly appreciate advice/suggestions for
>> > >> > finding
>> > >> > a
>> > >> > "fix" for it.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Here are the details so far.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Similarities to previously mentioned "Windows Search" service
>> > >> > problems:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > When I attempt to start the "Windows Search" service manually, I
>> > >> > get an
>> > >> > error message box which says: "Windows could not start the Windows
>> > >> > Search on
>> > >> > Local Computer. For more information, review the System Event Log.
>> > >> > If
>> > >> > this
>> > >> > is a non-Microsoft service, contact the service vendor, and refer
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > service-specific error code - 2147218141)"
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Related services (RPC and DCOM S.P.L.) running, no problems (that
>> > >> > I can
>> > >> > tell).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > In the Control Panel, in the Indexing Options dialog box, the
>> > >> > window
>> > >> > displayes "Indexing not running". Both the "Modify" and "Advanced"
>> > >> > buttons
>> > >> > are grayed out (I can not make any changes).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > running SFC /scannow had no effect
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The folder: "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data " is present and
>> > >> > has
>> > >> > 3
>> > >> > folders in it. They are: "Applications", "Config", and "Temp".
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The folder: "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Config" is
>> > >> > present
>> > >> > and
>> > >> > contains two files: gathrprm.txt and schema.txt.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Here is something that I thought seemed peculiar. In the registry
>> > >> > at:
>> > >> > "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> > >> > Search\Gather\Windows\SystemIndex\Sites\{s-1-5-21-2809944867-2680333499-3313531811-1107}\Paths\15"
>> > >> > when I click on the "15", I get an error message saying, "15
>> > >> > cannot be
>> > >> > opened. An error is preventing this key from being opened.
>> > >> > Details: The
>> > >> > system cannot find the file specified." Along that same registry
>> > >> > path,
>> > >> > under
>> > >> > the "Sites" key, there are four peer keys; the one I mentioned and
>> > >> > three more
>> > >> > with similar names.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Does the latter info shed any light as to what's going on with my
>> > >> > PC? I
>> > >> > am
>> > >> > open to and would greatly appreciate any suggestions (short of
>> > >> > totally
>> > >> > reinstalling) anyone may have.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas/suggestions on helping me get this
>> > >> > resolved,
>> > >> > Brad
>> > >> >
>> > >> > ps: I have read Nevet's similar post on 7/31/2007
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi Brad,
>> > >>
>> > >> This will show you how to get it started and fixed for you.
>> > >>
>> > >> Index - Windows Search Service
>> > >>
>> > >> Shawn
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> brink
>> > >>
>> > >> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
>> > >> _http://www.Vistax64.com (\"http://www.Vistax64.com\")_
>> > >> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
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Old 03-04-2008   #14 (permalink)


Vista Enterprise 32bit
 
 

Re: Windows Search service won't start

Brad or Shawn,

I am seeing the exact symptoms Brad had. Any suggestions?

Brad - Did you try repairing Vista?

Thanks,
RJS
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-23-2008   #15 (permalink)
claimjumper


 
 

Re: Windows Search service won't start

take a look at the DataDirectory value in HKLM\software\microsoft\windows
search. mine was pointing to something other than
c:\programdata\microsoft\search\data so i changed it and now wsearch runs.

if this works for you, go into Indexing Options->Advanced and change the
"Index location->New location, after service is restarted" to the same path.

YMMV. good luck

"RJS75" wrote:
Quote:

>
> Brad or Shawn,
>
> I am seeing the exact symptoms Brad had. Any suggestions?
>
> Brad - Did you try repairing Vista?
>
> Thanks,
> RJS
>
>
> --
> RJS75
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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