Vista - How do I organize the Start Menu??

I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of the
suggestions have helped.

I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went to
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.

The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I double
checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.

I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet things
in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat, etc.
programs in a folder under her name.

Can someone please HELP!

Thanks,
Susan

All Users would have files here, and would show in the Start Menu regardless
of the acount logged on to:

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

Your daughter's Start Menu would have files here, seen in the Start Menu
when she is logged on:

C:\Users\(Your Daughter)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

Your Start Menu would have files here, seen in the Start Menu when you are
logged on:

C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

"Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6420085B-404F-4C0B-BBCA-4970FE7CEDDE@microsoft.com...
>I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of the
> suggestions have helped.
>
> I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went to
> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.
>
> The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I double
> checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.
>
> I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet things
> in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat,
> etc.
> programs in a folder under her name.
>
> Can someone please HELP!
>
> Thanks,
> Susan
>

Right click on the start orb. Go to Open All Users. Then open programs. Add
new folders, drag old folders to the new folders, rename - anything you want
to do.

Then do the same for YOUR private account. Right click on Start Orb. Open
users | Programs.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6420085B-404F-4C0B-BBCA-4970FE7CEDDE@microsoft.com...
>I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of the
> suggestions have helped.
>
> I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went to
> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.
>
> The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I double
> checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.
>
> I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet things
> in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat,
> etc.
> programs in a folder under her name.
>
> Can someone please HELP!
>
> Thanks,
> Susan
>

Thanks but your suggestion doesn't help. I saw the Users\AppData.....
folders but very little is them. For all users there are 4 folders and 3
programs.

Bought new last Sunday this computer has a lot more than that on the Start
menu, too much. For example, for every user one of those 4 folders is
Maintenance. The only thing in it is a shortcut to Help and Support. But if
you look at it from the Start menu there is more in there, like Backup and
Restore Center.

Again, the only thing under C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu is
an empty folder named MSN Encarta Plus. (There would probably be something in
the folder if I activated the free trial, or it would vanish if I uninstalled
it.)

This is a MAJOR flaw in Vista. On MY start menu I should be able to create
folders and move things to the new folder, or at least move things to
existing folders. I don't need Intel Matrix Storage device on the main All
Programs Menu. Accessories/System Tools would be better for it because it is
a System Tool.

Thanks again
Susan


"dean-dean" wrote:

> All Users would have files here, and would show in the Start Menu regardless
> of the acount logged on to:
>
> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>
> Your daughter's Start Menu would have files here, seen in the Start Menu
> when she is logged on:
>
> C:\Users\(Your Daughter)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>
> Your Start Menu would have files here, seen in the Start Menu when you are
> logged on:
>
> C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>
> "Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6420085B-404F-4C0B-BBCA-4970FE7CEDDE@microsoft.com...
> >I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of the
> > suggestions have helped.
> >
> > I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went to
> > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.
> >
> > The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I double
> > checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.
> >
> > I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet things
> > in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat,
> > etc.
> > programs in a folder under her name.
> >
> > Can someone please HELP!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Susan
> >
>

Hello,

for me, there are over 30 files/folders in
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs . So there must
something be anywhere hidden for you if there's so little.

Greetings,
P. Di Stolfo

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// http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language
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"Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:B15EBB5B-2566-4958-B78B-10CBFCFBF933@microsoft.com...
> Thanks but your suggestion doesn't help. I saw the Users\AppData.....
> folders but very little is them. For all users there are 4 folders and 3
> programs.
>
> Bought new last Sunday this computer has a lot more than that on the Start
> menu, too much. For example, for every user one of those 4 folders is
> Maintenance. The only thing in it is a shortcut to Help and Support. But
> if
> you look at it from the Start menu there is more in there, like Backup and
> Restore Center.
>
> Again, the only thing under C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu is
> an empty folder named MSN Encarta Plus. (There would probably be something
> in
> the folder if I activated the free trial, or it would vanish if I
> uninstalled
> it.)
>
> This is a MAJOR flaw in Vista. On MY start menu I should be able to
> create
> folders and move things to the new folder, or at least move things to
> existing folders. I don't need Intel Matrix Storage device on the main
> All
> Programs Menu. Accessories/System Tools would be better for it because it
> is
> a System Tool.
>
> Thanks again
> Susan
>
>
> "dean-dean" wrote:
>
>> All Users would have files here, and would show in the Start Menu
>> regardless
>> of the acount logged on to:
>>
>> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>>
>> Your daughter's Start Menu would have files here, seen in the Start Menu
>> when she is logged on:
>>
>> C:\Users\(Your Daughter)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>>
>> Your Start Menu would have files here, seen in the Start Menu when you
>> are
>> logged on:
>>
>> C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>>
>> "Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6420085B-404F-4C0B-BBCA-4970FE7CEDDE@microsoft.com...
>> >I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of
>> >the
>> > suggestions have helped.
>> >
>> > I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went
>> > to
>> > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.
>> >
>> > The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I
>> > double
>> > checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.
>> >
>> > I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet
>> > things
>> > in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat,
>> > etc.
>> > programs in a folder under her name.
>> >
>> > Can someone please HELP!
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Susan
>> >
>>

YEAH!!!! Thank You Richard!!! The Open all users is working so far for
everyone from just that one place.

I created a folder named Windows
Trials then dragged and dropped the Office and Works free trial folders into
it. Then I switched users and the same changes were on my daughter and
Husband's start menu.

I will be back, I am going to shut down (not restart) and walk the dog to
clear memory before I go nuts organizing.

Fingers Crossed,
Susan

"Richard Urban" wrote:

> Right click on the start orb. Go to Open All Users. Then open programs. Add
> new folders, drag old folders to the new folders, rename - anything you want
> to do.
>
> Then do the same for YOUR private account. Right click on Start Orb. Open
> users | Programs.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
> "Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6420085B-404F-4C0B-BBCA-4970FE7CEDDE@microsoft.com...
> >I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of the
> > suggestions have helped.
> >
> > I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went to
> > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.
> >
> > The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I double
> > checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.
> >
> > I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet things
> > in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat,
> > etc.
> > programs in a folder under her name.
> >
> > Can someone please HELP!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Susan
> >
>
>

Thank you Richard!! Just Open All Users let me do what I wanted for all users
at the same time. All the Internet stuff is a folder named Internet etc.

"Richard Urban" wrote:

> Right click on the start orb. Go to Open All Users. Then open programs. Add
> new folders, drag old folders to the new folders, rename - anything you want
> to do.
>
> Then do the same for YOUR private account. Right click on Start Orb. Open
> users | Programs.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
> "Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6420085B-404F-4C0B-BBCA-4970FE7CEDDE@microsoft.com...
> >I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of the
> > suggestions have helped.
> >
> > I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went to
> > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.
> >
> > The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I double
> > checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.
> >
> > I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet things
> > in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat,
> > etc.
> > programs in a folder under her name.
> >
> > Can someone please HELP!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Susan
> >
>
>

It was empty except for that one empty folder. Once Richard said Open All
Users and edit from there, and I did, C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start
Menu\Programs now looks like a folder based version of the start menu as
everything I read here said it should.

Why it wasn't there in the first place I don't know. I am glad it is fixed,
it was almost my last annoyance with Vista out of the box.

Now I can try installing software and hooking up hardware. LOL

Thanks,
Susan

"P. Di Stolfo" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> for me, there are over 30 files/folders in
> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs . So there must
> something be anywhere hidden for you if there's so little.
>
> Greetings,
> P. Di Stolfo
>
> --
> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> // http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language
> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:B15EBB5B-2566-4958-B78B-10CBFCFBF933@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks but your suggestion doesn't help. I saw the Users\AppData.....
> > folders but very little is them. For all users there are 4 folders and 3
> > programs.
> >
> > Bought new last Sunday this computer has a lot more than that on the Start
> > menu, too much. For example, for every user one of those 4 folders is
> > Maintenance. The only thing in it is a shortcut to Help and Support. But
> > if
> > you look at it from the Start menu there is more in there, like Backup and
> > Restore Center.
> >
> > Again, the only thing under C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu is
> > an empty folder named MSN Encarta Plus. (There would probably be something
> > in
> > the folder if I activated the free trial, or it would vanish if I
> > uninstalled
> > it.)
> >
> > This is a MAJOR flaw in Vista. On MY start menu I should be able to
> > create
> > folders and move things to the new folder, or at least move things to
> > existing folders. I don't need Intel Matrix Storage device on the main
> > All
> > Programs Menu. Accessories/System Tools would be better for it because it
> > is
> > a System Tool.
> >
> > Thanks again
> > Susan
> >
> >
> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> >
> >> All Users would have files here, and would show in the Start Menu
> >> regardless
> >> of the acount logged on to:
> >>
> >> C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
> >>
> >> Your daughter's Start Menu would have files here, seen in the Start Menu
> >> when she is logged on:
> >>
> >> C:\Users\(Your Daughter)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
> >>
> >> Your Start Menu would have files here, seen in the Start Menu when you
> >> are
> >> logged on:
> >>
> >> C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
> >>
> >> "Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6420085B-404F-4C0B-BBCA-4970FE7CEDDE@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of
> >> >the
> >> > suggestions have helped.
> >> >
> >> > I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went
> >> > to
> >> > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.
> >> >
> >> > The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I
> >> > double
> >> > checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.
> >> >
> >> > I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet
> >> > things
> >> > in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat,
> >> > etc.
> >> > programs in a folder under her name.
> >> >
> >> > Can someone please HELP!
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Susan
> >> >
> >>

Glad to see you're happy now. (-:

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:000C9C0A-DF03-4CF4-8417-7EF7F5D19ADB@microsoft.com...
> Thank you Richard!! Just Open All Users let me do what I wanted for all
> users
> at the same time. All the Internet stuff is a folder named Internet etc.
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>
>> Right click on the start orb. Go to Open All Users. Then open programs.
>> Add
>> new folders, drag old folders to the new folders, rename - anything you
>> want
>> to do.
>>
>> Then do the same for YOUR private account. Right click on Start Orb. Open
>> users | Programs.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>>
>> "Susan" <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6420085B-404F-4C0B-BBCA-4970FE7CEDDE@microsoft.com...
>> >I have searched all of the Vista discussion for Start menu and none of
>> >the
>> > suggestions have helped.
>> >
>> > I am the Admin, I have all hidden files and folders showing, AND I went
>> > to
>> > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu as everyone said to.
>> >
>> > The only thing there is an empty folder named MSN Encarta. Yes, I
>> > double
>> > checked to make sure show all hidden files and folders is still on.
>> >
>> > I am not trying to do anything tricky. Just organize it. Internet
>> > things
>> > in a folder named Internet. Our daughter's Ipod, camera, phone, chat,
>> > etc.
>> > programs in a folder under her name.
>> >
>> > Can someone please HELP!
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Susan
>> >
>>
>>