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Old 09-07-2007   #1 (permalink)
Rob
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documents location

I changed the location of my Documents folder when I setup the machine.

But I don't like where it ended you, so I want to move it again.

But it won't let me edit the location again, and there is no "move" button
now.

What happened?

It is Vista Business and joined a SBS domain.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.
Old 09-08-2007   #2 (permalink)
PaulB
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RE: documents location

Go to the Start Orb and type shellersonal into start search. Then check for
the customize tab.
--
Paul


"Rob" wrote:
Quote:

> I changed the location of my Documents folder when I setup the machine.
>
> But I don't like where it ended you, so I want to move it again.
>
> But it won't let me edit the location again, and there is no "move" button
> now.
>
> What happened?
>
> It is Vista Business and joined a SBS domain.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
Old 09-11-2007   #3 (permalink)
Rob
Guest


 

RE: documents location

That opens a windows with the location of the "Documents" folder. And I
cannot find a customize tab. The only place I find customize is under the
Organize/properties. And that does not let me change the location. I can
highlight it but I cannot type over it or delete it.

Is there something I'm missing?

"PaulB" wrote:
Quote:

> Go to the Start Orb and type shellersonal into start search. Then check for
> the customize tab.
> --
> Paul
>
>
> "Rob" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > I changed the location of my Documents folder when I setup the machine.
> >
> > But I don't like where it ended you, so I want to move it again.
> >
> > But it won't let me edit the location again, and there is no "move" button
> > now.
> >
> > What happened?
> >
> > It is Vista Business and joined a SBS domain.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
Old 09-16-2007   #4 (permalink)
Larry Martin
Guest


 

Re: documents location

Hi, Rob/PaulB -

Great! Have finally found others who have stumbled onto this new little
feature.

Have been slowly integrating Vista into one of my customer's SBS2k3 networks
and have noticed the same thing. So far, unable to find an answer on the
web.

Here's what it looks like to me - Window Vista, operating in Active
Directory with user file redirection enabled looks like it masquerades the
redirected folder when a Vista user has logged on. The folder still exists
but it's very difficult to resolve for any other authenticated user as well
as the domain administrator/equivalent.

Am trying to stay objective about this little feature but it is very
confusing. Have found that if I look at a folder properties, it is possible
to identify the owner by looking at who has full rights to the area. Even
this can be misleading if multiple users have full access (shouldn't happen
with folder redirection but it could).

The problem is further aggrevated when there are multiple Vista users with
redirected folders. Now you can have multiple entries for the 'Documents'
folder and there's no way to easily differentiate between the users.

I can kinda see why the true folder name is concealed - when a Vista
(business or higher) user logs on, the redirected folder (usually their Home
directory) is labeled 'Document' to discourage others from attempting to
open a file that the user (owner) may have open. Haven't figured out
Microsoft's real logic here, but the strategy is kinda clear.

Once a Vista user logs off, the real folder name is easily identified by
browsing the structure.

Confusing to say the least and I'm not sure that I agree with the logic.
The whole idea throws a wrench into the works and I haven't figured out how
to use the tool.

I'd like to see more discussion on it. The topic may be discussed in one
of Microsoft's certification courses... i.e., 70-622 (I think) but until
then yer guess is as good as mine.

One thing I have noticed is that 'if a user has mapped a drive to the target
redidrected folder, then the mapped drive still resolves the content
normally'. The problem is with trying to locate the folder by simply using
the more familiar browse function.

From a security/stability viewpoint, nobody except the folder owner should
have full control over their home directory...at least that makes sense
normally. A problem does arise when a company admin policy has very relaxed
file sharing and control rules (Group Policies), but that's another issue.

Larry

"Rob" <Rob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:560CA1F2-C3F5-4FDA-81CE-AE1DADAFD803@xxxxxx
Quote:

> That opens a windows with the location of the "Documents" folder. And I
> cannot find a customize tab. The only place I find customize is under the
> Organize/properties. And that does not let me change the location. I can
> highlight it but I cannot type over it or delete it.
>
> Is there something I'm missing?
>
> "PaulB" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Go to the Start Orb and type shellersonal into start search. Then check
>> for
>> the customize tab.
>> --
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> "Rob" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> > I changed the location of my Documents folder when I setup the machine.
>> >
>> > But I don't like where it ended you, so I want to move it again.
>> >
>> > But it won't let me edit the location again, and there is no "move"
>> > button
>> > now.
>> >
>> > What happened?
>> >
>> > It is Vista Business and joined a SBS domain.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
Old 11-26-2007   #5 (permalink)
bgoodcci
Guest


 

Re: documents location

Unless I am misunderstanding your question on the documents folder what you
are experiencing is only the name change that occurred going from Windows XP
to Windows Vista. The 'My Documents' folder is now called 'Documents' and is
still in the user profile just as it was with Windows XP and is unique to
each login. The main differences are that is takes a couple more steps to
see hidden and system files with Windows Vista and that the profiles are
stored in Users instead of Documents and Settings.

That being said, the previous post about not being able to change it may be
the result of a domain or group policy and not something on the local mahcine
if you are using active directory.

"Larry Martin" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi, Rob/PaulB -
>
> Great! Have finally found others who have stumbled onto this new little
> feature.
>
> Have been slowly integrating Vista into one of my customer's SBS2k3 networks
> and have noticed the same thing. So far, unable to find an answer on the
> web.
>
> Here's what it looks like to me - Window Vista, operating in Active
> Directory with user file redirection enabled looks like it masquerades the
> redirected folder when a Vista user has logged on. The folder still exists
> but it's very difficult to resolve for any other authenticated user as well
> as the domain administrator/equivalent.
>
> Am trying to stay objective about this little feature but it is very
> confusing. Have found that if I look at a folder properties, it is possible
> to identify the owner by looking at who has full rights to the area. Even
> this can be misleading if multiple users have full access (shouldn't happen
> with folder redirection but it could).
>
> The problem is further aggrevated when there are multiple Vista users with
> redirected folders. Now you can have multiple entries for the 'Documents'
> folder and there's no way to easily differentiate between the users.
>
> I can kinda see why the true folder name is concealed - when a Vista
> (business or higher) user logs on, the redirected folder (usually their Home
> directory) is labeled 'Document' to discourage others from attempting to
> open a file that the user (owner) may have open. Haven't figured out
> Microsoft's real logic here, but the strategy is kinda clear.
>
> Once a Vista user logs off, the real folder name is easily identified by
> browsing the structure.
>
> Confusing to say the least and I'm not sure that I agree with the logic.
> The whole idea throws a wrench into the works and I haven't figured out how
> to use the tool.
>
> I'd like to see more discussion on it. The topic may be discussed in one
> of Microsoft's certification courses... i.e., 70-622 (I think) but until
> then yer guess is as good as mine.
>
> One thing I have noticed is that 'if a user has mapped a drive to the target
> redidrected folder, then the mapped drive still resolves the content
> normally'. The problem is with trying to locate the folder by simply using
> the more familiar browse function.
>
> From a security/stability viewpoint, nobody except the folder owner should
> have full control over their home directory...at least that makes sense
> normally. A problem does arise when a company admin policy has very relaxed
> file sharing and control rules (Group Policies), but that's another issue.
>
> Larry
>
> "Rob" <Rob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:560CA1F2-C3F5-4FDA-81CE-AE1DADAFD803@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > That opens a windows with the location of the "Documents" folder. And I
> > cannot find a customize tab. The only place I find customize is under the
> > Organize/properties. And that does not let me change the location. I can
> > highlight it but I cannot type over it or delete it.
> >
> > Is there something I'm missing?
> >
> > "PaulB" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Go to the Start Orb and type shellersonal into start search. Then check
> >> for
> >> the customize tab.
> >> --
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> "Rob" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I changed the location of my Documents folder when I setup the machine.
> >> >
> >> > But I don't like where it ended you, so I want to move it again.
> >> >
> >> > But it won't let me edit the location again, and there is no "move"
> >> > button
> >> > now.
> >> >
> >> > What happened?
> >> >
> >> > It is Vista Business and joined a SBS domain.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance.
>
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