Vista - Vista SP1 + Games

05-14-2008

So when I first bought my Gateway laptop it came with Vista premium, and sure
it looked all nice and shinny, but once I tried to install my games and play
them I got punched in the face by Microsoft. I got horrible frame rate with
ALL my video games. Of course I researched if my games were compatible with
Vista, and even came to these forums with my cries for help, but no-one
seemed to be able to help at all.

I know its Vista that makes my games run like crap cause just a month ago I
installed XP on my top and got perfect frame rate with all my games. The only
reason I went back to Vista is because I couldn't find all the proper drivers
for my laptop with XP since its built and only supports Vista. It makes me
cry a little inside cause my girlfriend has a Gateway laptop with worse
system specs, yet she gets alot higher frame rate cause she uses XP, QQ.

So now comes to my topic; After all the research I did and tricks I tried to
improve performance I heard, this was months ago btw, that there wa a service
pack coming to Vista that would improve performance. So after hearing that
and getting all hyped up I waited and waited... So now we come to today. I
just installed SP1 and was kinda excited! Yay finally my games will run
smoothly!...Nope the still run with crappy frame rate.

Before anyone replies with anything like "Well what is your system specs?"
as if this is the problem my games run bad, remember that I did state that
with XP they ran perfect AND my computer is twice as good as my GFs but hers
runs twice as good as me, QQ. And also remember that I did state that I've
tried almost every trick in the book such as disable Win Defender, get latest
drivers (ALL are up to date), Instal DirectX, lower visual effects, etc...

After all the research I've done I saw that alot of peolpe with very nice
computers that should run games full settings no sweat just lag up like hell
with Vista, so they switched to XP. Too bad for me I can't do that cause my
top only uses Vista. Its also kinda sad that in order to get an upgrade I
have to downgrade to a lesser OS...

So whats up Microsoft?? You guys gonna fix any of this soon?

05-14-2008

Nice rant, but you're not talking to MS here, just other users like
yourself.
If you list your system specs, and which games you're running, perhaps
someone can offer some help.

--
Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

"Ver!tas" <Vertas@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:22C63AD4-ACE8-4B3A-A14E-57BBB7A27C7A@xxxxxx

Quote:

> So when I first bought my Gateway laptop it came with Vista premium, and
> sure
> it looked all nice and shinny, but once I tried to install my games and
> play
> them I got punched in the face by Microsoft. I got horrible frame rate
> with
> ALL my video games. Of course I researched if my games were compatible
> with
> Vista, and even came to these forums with my cries for help, but no-one
> seemed to be able to help at all.
>
> I know its Vista that makes my games run like crap cause just a month ago
> I
> installed XP on my top and got perfect frame rate with all my games. The
> only
> reason I went back to Vista is because I couldn't find all the proper
> drivers
> for my laptop with XP since its built and only supports Vista. It makes me
> cry a little inside cause my girlfriend has a Gateway laptop with worse
> system specs, yet she gets alot higher frame rate cause she uses XP, QQ.
>
> So now comes to my topic; After all the research I did and tricks I tried
> to
> improve performance I heard, this was months ago btw, that there wa a
> service
> pack coming to Vista that would improve performance. So after hearing that
> and getting all hyped up I waited and waited... So now we come to today. I
> just installed SP1 and was kinda excited! Yay finally my games will run
> smoothly!...Nope the still run with crappy frame rate.
>
> Before anyone replies with anything like "Well what is your system specs?"
> as if this is the problem my games run bad, remember that I did state that
> with XP they ran perfect AND my computer is twice as good as my GFs but
> hers
> runs twice as good as me, QQ. And also remember that I did state that I've
> tried almost every trick in the book such as disable Win Defender, get
> latest
> drivers (ALL are up to date), Instal DirectX, lower visual effects, etc...
>
> After all the research I've done I saw that alot of peolpe with very nice
> computers that should run games full settings no sweat just lag up like
> hell
> with Vista, so they switched to XP. Too bad for me I can't do that cause
> my
> top only uses Vista. Its also kinda sad that in order to get an upgrade I
> have to downgrade to a lesser OS...
>
> So whats up Microsoft?? You guys gonna fix any of this soon?
>
>
>

05-14-2008

"Ver!tas" <Vertas@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7EE0437D-1ED8-46B4-8863-2D2D2295C143@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Sure I could list system specs and you guys can tell me the pros and cons
> of
> my computer and what you "think" is the problem, but re-read my post...If
> you
> read it you would see that with XP my computer ran the games I play
> perfectly
> fine with great frame rate. AND my girlfriends computer, which is a lower
> model and mine is twice as good as hers, runs the SAME games better than
> me
> when I use Vista.
>
> But to make you all happy here is my specs:
> Processor:
> AMD Turion 64 X2 mobile technology TL-56 / 1.8 GHz Duel Core
> Cache Memory Type: L2 cache
> Cache size: 1 MB
> RAM:
> Installed Size 2 GB Technology DDR II SDRAM - 667 MHz
> RAM configuration features: 2 x 1 GB
> Video:
> Graphics Processor / Vendor NVIDIA GeForce Go 6100 TurboCache supporting
> 256MB
>
> So there are my specs. My girlfriends laptop is about the same except she
> only has 1 gig of memory and does not have duel core technology. Yes my
> video
> card sucks real bad, but if I had XP installed and my games worked
> perfectly
> fine, why don't they work good with Vista? And how come my girlfriend's
> laptop runs the same gams perfectly fine, but her laptop is worse than
> mine?
> Its been like this the first day I bought this laptop.
>
> I've tried everything from tweaking Vista down a bit, to reformatting, to
> making sure my games are compatible. I've done it all just about. My games
> are compatible btw.
>
> The games I play is this: Counter Strike 1.6, Counter Strike: Source,
> Half-Life 2, Cabal Online. Some of these games are graphic intensive, and
> I
> know my graphics card sucks, but then why do they work fine with XP??

Cos Vista is a totally diffo kettle of fish, it's as simple as that. Vista
uses more resources, gaming on a laptop with Vista is a waste of time, get a
proper gaming machine, that way you can play all your games, I know it's not
what you wanted to hear but hey that's life
--
VRG Scotty

www.vistareadygames.com
Register, it's free, and use the 'search for solution' tab for any problems

05-20-2008

"Kevin" <i.kevin@xxxxxx> wrote in
news:A8020CB6-CF06-4B56-B49D-29F186B103C4@xxxxxx:

Quote:

> Um, my laptop cost like $2200 and it's a 5 years old model with GF Go
> 6800 card in it.
> Now, I'm on Vista running games max setting get round up to 30-40FPS.
>
> Having a higher MODEL number DOENS'T MEAN is BETTER. She probably have
> a Higher End Graphic Card than Yours.
>
> Your girlfriend one probably has a Dedicated card not a ON-BOARD
> videocard.
>
> ON-Board video sucks bad ass at anything really.
>
> KI
>

Well said Ki,

I had a guy bring in a 3 year old MSI lappy running Vista with 2gigs DDR
ram and he could run Half-Life 2 at full detail around 30fps.

A lot of those laptops you get at Best Buy with exception of a few gaming
notebooks and the Dell XPS level systems, just bite. Only way to move
notebooks is to sell them on the cheap. Customers will drive an extra 50
miles to save $20. Cheapest system i'd ever buy would be a low end white
macbook. $1099, everything cheaper is worthless.

--
-A.

05-14-2008	#1 (permalink)
Ver!tas n/a posts	Vista SP1 + Games So when I first bought my Gateway laptop it came with Vista premium, and sure it looked all nice and shinny, but once I tried to install my games and play them I got punched in the face by Microsoft. I got horrible frame rate with ALL my video games. Of course I researched if my games were compatible with Vista, and even came to these forums with my cries for help, but no-one seemed to be able to help at all. I know its Vista that makes my games run like crap cause just a month ago I installed XP on my top and got perfect frame rate with all my games. The only reason I went back to Vista is because I couldn't find all the proper drivers for my laptop with XP since its built and only supports Vista. It makes me cry a little inside cause my girlfriend has a Gateway laptop with worse system specs, yet she gets alot higher frame rate cause she uses XP, QQ. So now comes to my topic; After all the research I did and tricks I tried to improve performance I heard, this was months ago btw, that there wa a service pack coming to Vista that would improve performance. So after hearing that and getting all hyped up I waited and waited... So now we come to today. I just installed SP1 and was kinda excited! Yay finally my games will run smoothly!...Nope the still run with crappy frame rate. Before anyone replies with anything like "Well what is your system specs?" as if this is the problem my games run bad, remember that I did state that with XP they ran perfect AND my computer is twice as good as my GFs but hers runs twice as good as me, QQ. And also remember that I did state that I've tried almost every trick in the book such as disable Win Defender, get latest drivers (ALL are up to date), Instal DirectX, lower visual effects, etc... After all the research I've done I saw that alot of peolpe with very nice computers that should run games full settings no sweat just lag up like hell with Vista, so they switched to XP. Too bad for me I can't do that cause my top only uses Vista. Its also kinda sad that in order to get an upgrade I have to downgrade to a lesser OS... So whats up Microsoft?? You guys gonna fix any of this soon?
My System Specs

05-14-2008	#2 (permalink)
Dave n/a posts	Re: Vista SP1 + Games Nice rant, but you're not talking to MS here, just other users like yourself. If you list your system specs, and which games you're running, perhaps someone can offer some help. -- Vista Home Premium 32 SP1 http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview "Ver!tas" <Vertas@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:22C63AD4-ACE8-4B3A-A14E-57BBB7A27C7A@xxxxxx Quote: > So when I first bought my Gateway laptop it came with Vista premium, and > sure > it looked all nice and shinny, but once I tried to install my games and > play > them I got punched in the face by Microsoft. I got horrible frame rate > with > ALL my video games. Of course I researched if my games were compatible > with > Vista, and even came to these forums with my cries for help, but no-one > seemed to be able to help at all. > > I know its Vista that makes my games run like crap cause just a month ago > I > installed XP on my top and got perfect frame rate with all my games. The > only > reason I went back to Vista is because I couldn't find all the proper > drivers > for my laptop with XP since its built and only supports Vista. It makes me > cry a little inside cause my girlfriend has a Gateway laptop with worse > system specs, yet she gets alot higher frame rate cause she uses XP, QQ. > > So now comes to my topic; After all the research I did and tricks I tried > to > improve performance I heard, this was months ago btw, that there wa a > service > pack coming to Vista that would improve performance. So after hearing that > and getting all hyped up I waited and waited... So now we come to today. I > just installed SP1 and was kinda excited! Yay finally my games will run > smoothly!...Nope the still run with crappy frame rate. > > Before anyone replies with anything like "Well what is your system specs?" > as if this is the problem my games run bad, remember that I did state that > with XP they ran perfect AND my computer is twice as good as my GFs but > hers > runs twice as good as me, QQ. And also remember that I did state that I've > tried almost every trick in the book such as disable Win Defender, get > latest > drivers (ALL are up to date), Instal DirectX, lower visual effects, etc... > > After all the research I've done I saw that alot of peolpe with very nice > computers that should run games full settings no sweat just lag up like > hell > with Vista, so they switched to XP. Too bad for me I can't do that cause > my > top only uses Vista. Its also kinda sad that in order to get an upgrade I > have to downgrade to a lesser OS... > > So whats up Microsoft?? You guys gonna fix any of this soon? > > >
My System Specs

05-14-2008	#3 (permalink)
VRG ScottyÂ© n/a posts	Re: Vista SP1 + Games "Ver!tas" <Vertas@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:7EE0437D-1ED8-46B4-8863-2D2D2295C143@xxxxxx Quote: > Sure I could list system specs and you guys can tell me the pros and cons > of > my computer and what you "think" is the problem, but re-read my post...If > you > read it you would see that with XP my computer ran the games I play > perfectly > fine with great frame rate. AND my girlfriends computer, which is a lower > model and mine is twice as good as hers, runs the SAME games better than > me > when I use Vista. > > But to make you all happy here is my specs: > Processor: > AMD Turion 64 X2 mobile technology TL-56 / 1.8 GHz Duel Core > Cache Memory Type: L2 cache > Cache size: 1 MB > RAM: > Installed Size 2 GB Technology DDR II SDRAM - 667 MHz > RAM configuration features: 2 x 1 GB > Video: > Graphics Processor / Vendor NVIDIA GeForce Go 6100 TurboCache supporting > 256MB > > So there are my specs. My girlfriends laptop is about the same except she > only has 1 gig of memory and does not have duel core technology. Yes my > video > card sucks real bad, but if I had XP installed and my games worked > perfectly > fine, why don't they work good with Vista? And how come my girlfriend's > laptop runs the same gams perfectly fine, but her laptop is worse than > mine? > Its been like this the first day I bought this laptop. > > I've tried everything from tweaking Vista down a bit, to reformatting, to > making sure my games are compatible. I've done it all just about. My games > are compatible btw. > > The games I play is this: Counter Strike 1.6, Counter Strike: Source, > Half-Life 2, Cabal Online. Some of these games are graphic intensive, and > I > know my graphics card sucks, but then why do they work fine with XP?? Cos Vista is a totally diffo kettle of fish, it's as simple as that. Vista uses more resources, gaming on a laptop with Vista is a waste of time, get a proper gaming machine, that way you can play all your games, I know it's not what you wanted to hear but hey that's life -- VRG Scotty www.vistareadygames.com Register, it's free, and use the 'search for solution' tab for any problems
My System Specs

05-20-2008	#4 (permalink)
Andy [YaYa] n/a posts	Re: Vista SP1 + Games "Kevin" <i.kevin@xxxxxx> wrote in news:A8020CB6-CF06-4B56-B49D-29F186B103C4@xxxxxx: Quote: > Um, my laptop cost like $2200 and it's a 5 years old model with GF Go > 6800 card in it. > Now, I'm on Vista running games max setting get round up to 30-40FPS. > > Having a higher MODEL number DOENS'T MEAN is BETTER. She probably have > a Higher End Graphic Card than Yours. > > Your girlfriend one probably has a Dedicated card not a ON-BOARD > videocard. > > ON-Board video sucks bad ass at anything really. > > KI > Well said Ki, I had a guy bring in a 3 year old MSI lappy running Vista with 2gigs DDR ram and he could run Half-Life 2 at full detail around 30fps. A lot of those laptops you get at Best Buy with exception of a few gaming notebooks and the Dell XPS level systems, just bite. Only way to move notebooks is to sell them on the cheap. Customers will drive an extra 50 miles to save $20. Cheapest system i'd ever buy would be a low end white macbook. $1099, everything cheaper is worthless. -- -A.
My System Specs

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