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| 12-31-2008 | #1 |
| | Vista Basic, Nvidia 6100 graphics and Zuma Deluxe Setting up a new PC here (eMachines H5270) and installed Zuma Deluxe. The game is playable but the motion becomes quite jerky whenever the on screen action becomes more intense. Also the mouse leaves droppings when Zuma's custom cursors option is enabled. The processor is a 2700Mhz Athlon and the graphics chipset is years newer than the ATI card in the PC this one replaces. Has anyone else experienced these symptoms with Zuma? Is there a way to fix this or am I seeing an incompatibility problem between this game and something in hardware? |
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| 12-31-2008 | #2 |
| | Re: Vista Basic, Nvidia 6100 graphics and Zuma Deluxe The GeForce 6100 is a very low-end card. It wouldn't surprise me that it doesn't have enough horsepower to keep the framerates up. Basically when looking at graphics card the thousand digit refers to the generation, in this case 6th generation, and the following numbers refer to the performance. For example a 6100 is slower than a 6600, with 6800 being the fastest. 7100 would be comparable to the 6100 - possibly a bit faster, but not necessarily so. -- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience. http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ http://www.windowsresource.net/ *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* "RalfG" <itsnotme@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:78EDCAD9-3EFA-494C-BBE7-A1660E6C1874@xxxxxx Quote: > Setting up a new PC here (eMachines H5270) and installed Zuma Deluxe. The > game is playable but the motion becomes quite jerky whenever the on screen > action becomes more intense. Also the mouse leaves droppings when Zuma's > custom cursors option is enabled. The processor is a 2700Mhz Athlon and > the graphics chipset is years newer than the ATI card in the PC this one > replaces. > > Has anyone else experienced these symptoms with Zuma? Is there a way to > fix this or am I seeing an incompatibility problem between this game and > something in hardware? > > |
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| 01-01-2009 | #3 |
| | Re: Vista Basic, Nvidia 6100 graphics and Zuma Deluxe Interesting information Paul, thanks. I hadn't bothered to run my usual benchmark comparison on this PC because of it's relatively okay Windows Experience rating of 3.0 for graphics (also the base score). The owner of this computer isn't a gamer and I didn't consider Zuma would be particularly challenging for the hardware, considering the hardware in the machine it was already being played on. I'm puzzling over that now, having just run a benchmark (3dMark2001SE) and the result (3919) was only 500 points higher than I got for a 933Mhz P3 with a Radeon 7500 card in it. The game plays perfectly well on the P3 machine, which is the one being replaced. I'm wondering now just what use the Vista Performance information is when it gives me a difference of 3.8 for the HD2400 gaming graphics versus 3.0 for this Nvidia 6100 yet the graphics benchmark scores differ by almost 10,000 points. I think the computer only has a 250 watt power supply in it so I suppose the next question would be what PCIe video card could I put in there that wouldn't stress the existing PSU. "Paul Smith" <Paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23DZdMq6aJHA.1528@xxxxxx Quote: > The GeForce 6100 is a very low-end card. It wouldn't surprise me that it > doesn't have enough horsepower to keep the framerates up. > > Basically when looking at graphics card the thousand digit refers to the > generation, in this case 6th generation, and the following numbers refer > to the performance. For example a 6100 is slower than a 6600, with 6800 > being the fastest. 7100 would be comparable to the 6100 - possibly a bit > faster, but not necessarily so. > > -- > Paul Smith, > Yeovil, UK. > Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience. > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ > http://www.windowsresource.net/ > > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* > > > "RalfG" <itsnotme@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:78EDCAD9-3EFA-494C-BBE7-A1660E6C1874@xxxxxx Quote: >> Setting up a new PC here (eMachines H5270) and installed Zuma Deluxe. The >> game is playable but the motion becomes quite jerky whenever the on >> screen action becomes more intense. Also the mouse leaves droppings when >> Zuma's custom cursors option is enabled. The processor is a 2700Mhz >> Athlon and the graphics chipset is years newer than the ATI card in the >> PC this one replaces. >> >> Has anyone else experienced these symptoms with Zuma? Is there a way to >> fix this or am I seeing an incompatibility problem between this game and >> something in hardware? >> >> |
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| 01-02-2009 | #4 |
| | Re: Vista Basic, Nvidia 6100 graphics and Zuma Deluxe The E Machines site (H5270) shows NVIDIA® GeForce® 6100 integrated graphics Up to 128MB of shared video memory (Believe this may be part of the problem) PCI Express (x8) slot available for upgrade Most "integrated" video systems are not really "optimized" for gaming. You may be able to look at the running services, and temporarily disable those that are not needed as a means to improve things a bit. I currently have an HP laptop running Vista ultimate, that uses an Nvidia chpset and a 1.5ghz intel dual processor. It's win score is ~ 4.5. It was much lower (3.4) with the older video driver versions. The graphics preformance is just enough to be able to play Crysis in low end mode. This is more or less equal to an older desktop running XP with a 2ghz single core mobile processor, and 133mhz memory buss speed. On the older (AGP) system, the graphics card is a fairly high end Nvidia card for an AGP card. "RalfG" <itsnotme@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:78EDCAD9-3EFA-494C-BBE7-A1660E6C1874@xxxxxx Quote: > Setting up a new PC here (eMachines H5270) and installed Zuma Deluxe. The > game is playable but the motion becomes quite jerky whenever the on screen > action becomes more intense. Also the mouse leaves droppings when Zuma's > custom cursors option is enabled. The processor is a 2700Mhz Athlon and > the graphics chipset is years newer than the ATI card in the PC this one > replaces. > > Has anyone else experienced these symptoms with Zuma? Is there a way to > fix this or am I seeing an incompatibility problem between this game and > something in hardware? > > |
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| 01-02-2009 | #5 |
| | Re: Vista Basic, Nvidia 6100 graphics and Zuma Deluxe I was afraid the shared memory might be at the root of the problem. Turning off 3d acceleration in the game solves the jerkiness issue but the game loses its visual appeal as the balls slide rather than roll. This chipset actually lost a decimal point or two off the graphics index when I updated the video driver. It's beginning to look like an add-in graphics card will have to be the solution to the issue. Thanks. "Chuck" <cdkuder@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23HxzPeLbJHA.1268@xxxxxx Quote: > The E Machines site (H5270) shows > NVIDIA® GeForce® 6100 integrated graphics > Up to 128MB of shared video memory (Believe this may be part of the > problem) > PCI Express (x8) slot available for upgrade > > Most "integrated" video systems are not really "optimized" for gaming. > You may be able to look at the running services, and temporarily disable > those that are not needed as a means to improve things a bit. I currently > have an HP laptop running Vista ultimate, that uses an Nvidia chpset and a > 1.5ghz intel dual processor. It's win score is ~ 4.5. It was much lower > (3.4) with the older video driver versions. The graphics preformance is > just enough to be able to play Crysis in low end mode. This is more or > less equal to an older desktop running XP with a 2ghz single core mobile > processor, and 133mhz memory buss speed. On the older (AGP) system, the > graphics card is a fairly high end Nvidia card for an AGP card. > > > "RalfG" <itsnotme@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:78EDCAD9-3EFA-494C-BBE7-A1660E6C1874@xxxxxx Quote: >> Setting up a new PC here (eMachines H5270) and installed Zuma Deluxe. The >> game is playable but the motion becomes quite jerky whenever the on >> screen action becomes more intense. Also the mouse leaves droppings when >> Zuma's custom cursors option is enabled. The processor is a 2700Mhz >> Athlon and the graphics chipset is years newer than the ATI card in the >> PC this one replaces. >> >> Has anyone else experienced these symptoms with Zuma? Is there a way to >> fix this or am I seeing an incompatibility problem between this game and >> something in hardware? >> >> > |
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