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Old 05-13-2009   #1 (permalink)
Bob


 
 

Do these games run on Vista 64?

For Xmus I'm going to buy a laptop and put Vista 64 on it.

Civ4
SH3
Falcon Allied Air Force
Anno 1503
MTW2
Saitek X52

And any opinion as to which brand of laptop?

Thanks a lot,
Bob



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Old 05-13-2009   #2 (permalink)
Paul Smith


 
 

Re: Do these games run on Vista 64?

"Bob" <fake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:TwEOl.29739$Ws1.22670@xxxxxx
Quote:

> For Xmus I'm going to buy a laptop and put Vista 64 on it.
Quote:

> Civ4
Yes.
Quote:

> SH3
Yes. BUT you'll need to use a no-CD crack to remove the copy protection -
as the StarForce driver it ships with is only 32-bit.
Quote:

> Falcon Allied Air Force
> Anno 1503
> MTW2
> Saitek X52
Don't know about the above.
Quote:

> And any opinion as to which brand of laptop?
Just make sure its got a decent graphics card if you want it for gaming.
Don't cheap out on it either, as unlike a desktop you're stuck with the
graphics card for the life of the machine.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/



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Old 05-14-2009   #3 (permalink)
Joe


 
 

Re: Do these games run on Vista 64?

"Matt Hart" <Dragoonboy2004@xxxxxx> wrote in
news:F85119D7-B2BC-454E-8B45-D6F141A9156D@xxxxxx:
Quote:

> If you want a good brand of laptop, alienware is your best bet.
>
> You can get decent ones through Dell. As said earlier, stay away from
> cheap laptops. What you buy is what you get, only the memory is
> usually upgradable without an expensive dock.
Look at ASUS's sometime Matt, I used to think Alienware was good, but why
spend $3000 when a $1000 notebook does the job, looks better is actually
still considered a laptop (because you can hold it on your lap without
crushing your pelvis, and actually runs for more than 20 minutes on
battery)

Bob was looking to run a bunch of older games, technically he could
probably run it all on a $500 dollar 17" HP notebook.

Also, if money is no object I think Voodoo PCs are built better, but that's
IMHO, so don't get mad.

--
Joe
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-14-2009   #4 (permalink)
Matt Hart


 
 

Re: Do these games run on Vista 64?

Apparantly you've never tried running Civ 4.

A 1000$ notebook may do the job now, but what about the next game he wants
to play?

Laptops are almost non-upgradable. It's not worth it to get a cheapie laptop
and regret it later. I'm not a big fan of ASUS to be honest, but they are an
okay brand. Alienware just guarantees that you're getting everything up to
date.

As for being big laptops, What's wrong with that? Someone created the notion
a while ago that laptops have to weigh under a pound for them to be good,
but what's the point? You can always set it on a desk or tv tray regardless
of weight.

"Joe" <JoeQ@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Xns9C0B598219F58JoeQPublictv@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Matt Hart" <Dragoonboy2004@xxxxxx> wrote in
> news:F85119D7-B2BC-454E-8B45-D6F141A9156D@xxxxxx:
>
Quote:

>> If you want a good brand of laptop, alienware is your best bet.
>>
>> You can get decent ones through Dell. As said earlier, stay away from
>> cheap laptops. What you buy is what you get, only the memory is
>> usually upgradable without an expensive dock.
>
> Look at ASUS's sometime Matt, I used to think Alienware was good, but why
> spend $3000 when a $1000 notebook does the job, looks better is actually
> still considered a laptop (because you can hold it on your lap without
> crushing your pelvis, and actually runs for more than 20 minutes on
> battery)
>
> Bob was looking to run a bunch of older games, technically he could
> probably run it all on a $500 dollar 17" HP notebook.
>
> Also, if money is no object I think Voodoo PCs are built better, but
> that's
> IMHO, so don't get mad.
>
> --
> Joe
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-14-2009   #5 (permalink)


Vista
 
 

Re: Do these games run on Vista 64?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Joe View Post
Look at ASUS's sometime Matt, I used to think Alienware was good, but why
spend $3000 when a $1000 notebook does the job, looks better is actually
still considered a laptop (because you can hold it on your lap without
crushing your pelvis, and actually runs for more than 20 minutes on
battery)

Bob was looking to run a bunch of older games, technically he could
probably run it all on a $500 dollar 17" HP notebook.

Also, if money is no object I think Voodoo PCs are built better, but that's
IMHO, so don't get mad.

--
Joe
Joe’s got a good point here with this $500 laptop statement.

He’s also got a good point about ASUS machines. There are a couple different versions here on this laptop chooser site from Microsoft: Windows Laptop Scout. You can change the different sliders to give you a group of laptops that fit your specs. Lets you spec out something that’s tailored toward gaming if you want.

Cheers,
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-14-2009   #6 (permalink)
Bob


 
 

Re: Do these games run on Vista 64?


"Paul Smith" <Paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uVqKHLC1JHA.140@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Bob" <fake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:TwEOl.29739$Ws1.22670@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> For Xmus I'm going to buy a laptop and put Vista 64 on it.
>
Quote:

>> Civ4
>
> Yes.
>
Quote:

>> SH3
>
> Yes. BUT you'll need to use a no-CD crack to remove the copy protection -
> as the StarForce driver it ships with is only 32-bit.
So that means that all my old software for winxp will not run on Vista 64?
(I know nothing about laptops, disabled and in a wheelchair). And if they
got a cracked SH3, how about SH4?


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Old 05-15-2009   #7 (permalink)
Joe


 
 

Re: Do these games run on Vista 64?

>> "Matt Hart" <Dragoonboy2004@xxxxxx> wrote in
Quote:
Quote:

>> news:F85119D7-B2BC-454E-8B45-D6F141A9156D@xxxxxx:
>>
Quote:

>>> If you want a good brand of laptop, alienware is your best bet.
>>>
>>> You can get decent ones through Dell. As said earlier, stay away
>>> from cheap laptops. What you buy is what you get, only the memory is
>>> usually upgradable without an expensive dock.
Quote:

> "Joe" <JoeQ@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C0B598219F58JoeQPublictv@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>> Look at ASUS's sometime Matt, I used to think Alienware was good, but
>> why spend $3000 when a $1000 notebook does the job, looks better is
>> actually still considered a laptop (because you can hold it on your
>> lap without crushing your pelvis, and actually runs for more than 20
>> minutes on battery)
>>
>> Bob was looking to run a bunch of older games, technically he could
>> probably run it all on a $500 dollar 17" HP notebook.
>>
>> Also, if money is no object I think Voodoo PCs are built better, but
>> that's
>> IMHO, so don't get mad.
"Matt Hart" <Dragoonboy2004@xxxxxx> wrote in
news:uGXEZyL1JHA.1096@xxxxxx:
Quote:

> Apparantly you've never tried running Civ 4.
>
> A 1000$ notebook may do the job now, but what about the next game he
> wants to play?
>
> Laptops are almost non-upgradable. It's not worth it to get a cheapie
> laptop and regret it later. I'm not a big fan of ASUS to be honest,
> but they are an okay brand. Alienware just guarantees that you're
> getting everything up to date.
>
> As for being big laptops, What's wrong with that? Someone created the
> notion a while ago that laptops have to weigh under a pound for them
> to be good, but what's the point? You can always set it on a desk or
> tv tray regardless of weight.
Actually my point is the $1000 asus will run circles (performance wise)
around the Toshiba $1500 Qosmio gaming laptop, so bang for your buck for
gaming, ASUS.

ASUS has a modular video card, but honestly, with a 9800m, you'll be
fine. After 3 years you'll want to buy a new computer (Desktop or
otherwise) instead of trying to upgrade anyways.

Also I have played Civ4 on and off for the last 2-3 years (or so it
feels), it's the only game I have installed on my $500 toshiba notebook.
That thing won't run WoW smoothly, but Civ 4 is turned based and while
it's not amazing, it still runs better. You don't need a $3000 PC to run
Civilization.

Nothing wrong with big laptops, but when I think laptop I think portable,
and I don't consider Alienwares "portable". Maybe that's not a selling
point for him, so whatever.

Quality, Alien sure has the OS dialed in and running smooth, but so does
ASUS, more so than any other system. I trust ASUS as I've used their
products since the 80386 days, and no major issues/failures (talking
mobo's of course), now they are doing notebooks that look and feel good,
run good have a ton of extras above and beyond what the big 3 mfgs do. I
look at aliens and I see bloated everything, bloated cases, extra plastic
everywhere, etc.

guy brings an alienware desktop to a lan party, that's 1 less spot for
another system. Just saying.

Hell, if we were talking desktops I'd rather get a Voodoo or a Blackbird
(and I dispise HP).

imo, :P
--
Joe
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-15-2009   #8 (permalink)
Joe


 
 

Re: Do these games run on Vista 64?

"Bob" <fake@xxxxxx> wrote in
news:c43Pl.16786$%54.2535@xxxxxx:
Quote:

>
> "Paul Smith" <Paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uVqKHLC1JHA.140@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> "Bob" <fake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:TwEOl.29739$Ws1.22670@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> For Xmus I'm going to buy a laptop and put Vista 64 on it.
>>
Quote:

>>> Civ4
>>
>> Yes.
>>
Quote:

>>> SH3
>>
>> Yes. BUT you'll need to use a no-CD crack to remove the copy
>> protection - as the StarForce driver it ships with is only 32-bit.
>
> So that means that all my old software for winxp will not run on Vista
> 64? (I know nothing about laptops, disabled and in a wheelchair). And
> if they got a cracked SH3, how about SH4?
The problem is Vista 64 will only run 32-bit applications and 64-bit
applications.

If the game (or the game installer) is older it MAY use a 16-bit
application to run. In which case Vista 64 just won't run it. (it can't).

You may run into compatibility problems with OLDER games.

If you search for Silent Hill 3 and Vista Compatibility online, there are
some people who seem to have problems with SH3, but a lot of people are
saying it works fine.

Vista runs most games, sometimes though you have to tweak the settings a
little to get the game to fire up.

If you get the system and have problems find someone who knows games and
Vista to help you out.

--
Joe
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-21-2009   #9 (permalink)
Paul Smith


 
 

Re: Do these games run on Vista 64?

"Bob" <fake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:c43Pl.16786$%54.2535@xxxxxx
Quote:

> So that means that all my old software for winxp will not run on Vista 64?
> (I know nothing about laptops, disabled and in a wheelchair). And if they
> got a cracked SH3, how about SH4?
No, it means the specific game I said won't work - because its copy
protection installs a driver onto the system, a driver which is 32-bit.
64-bit Windows can run 32-bit or 64-bit applications, but not drivers - they
need to be 64-bit.

I don't know about SH4, I prefer to serve with the kriegsmarine. :-)

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/



My System SpecsSystem Spec
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