Vista or XP?

Hello,
First i want to apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question or
it's already been answered but it's very hard for me to find a right answer
that i know i can trust.

I plan to get a new computer as soon as i can so i wondered if i could get
some advise on if i should use windows xp or the new windows Vista when it
comes out(the cheapest version).

I will play World of Warcraft mostly maybe with a direct x 10 card
(8800gtx), my thoughts were that if i buy a geforce 8800 and Windows Vista i
will not need to upgrade my pc again for a long time.
But i read in some places that Vista won't run older games as well as Xp, so
i thought maybe windows xp and a older card like Geforce 7950GT would be
better for me.
Could someone please shed some light on the subject and advise me what to
get and when/if i would need to upgrade it and if/why Vista would run games
like World of Warcraft any slower/differant.
Answers would be very much appreciated.Thanks alot,
Paul

"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> First i want to apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question or
> it's already been answered but it's very hard for me to find a right
> answer
> that i know i can trust.
>
> I plan to get a new computer as soon as i can so i wondered if i could get
> some advise on if i should use windows xp or the new windows Vista when it
> comes out(the cheapest version).
>
> I will play World of Warcraft mostly maybe with a direct x 10 card
> (8800gtx), my thoughts were that if i buy a geforce 8800 and Windows Vista
> i
> will not need to upgrade my pc again for a long time.
> But i read in some places that Vista won't run older games as well as Xp,
> so
> i thought maybe windows xp and a older card like Geforce 7950GT would be
> better for me.
> Could someone please shed some light on the subject and advise me what to
> get and when/if i would need to upgrade it and if/why Vista would run
> games
> like World of Warcraft any slower/differant.
> Answers would be very much appreciated.Thanks alot,
> Paul
>

I have been playing Age of Mythology and FEAR and no problems with RC2. I
would assume with better drivers the final release will be even better for
games.

If u have the money go the 8800 with the new Pentium duo chip ( or whatever
its called ) and go with Vista. Also get 2 gig of memory and you will be up
to date for at 6 months :-)

My suggestion is XP. It's a matured operating system and every company has
good, solid drivers written for it. I played WoW. Do you really want to be
trying to group with people or in a 40 man Raid that took hours to get into
and then run into driver or technical issues all because of Vista? Stick with
what works. Give Microsoft a couple of years to shake out the Vista bugs and
then look at it again.

"Paul" wrote:

> Hello,
> First i want to apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question or
> it's already been answered but it's very hard for me to find a right answer
> that i know i can trust.
>
> I plan to get a new computer as soon as i can so i wondered if i could get
> some advise on if i should use windows xp or the new windows Vista when it
> comes out(the cheapest version).
>
> I will play World of Warcraft mostly maybe with a direct x 10 card
> (8800gtx), my thoughts were that if i buy a geforce 8800 and Windows Vista i
> will not need to upgrade my pc again for a long time.
> But i read in some places that Vista won't run older games as well as Xp, so
> i thought maybe windows xp and a older card like Geforce 7950GT would be
> better for me.
> Could someone please shed some light on the subject and advise me what to
> get and when/if i would need to upgrade it and if/why Vista would run games
> like World of Warcraft any slower/differant.
> Answers would be very much appreciated.Thanks alot,
> Paul
>

ok thanks for your suggestions, i guess theres no rush for DX10 card and even
if i got one i wouldn't use games to support shader 3.0 etc (what ever makes
it cost £450) for years.
Hopfully i'll be able to pick up a none Vista GPU for cheaper and keep it
for a good few years before another.
Regards,
Paul

Just my 10 cents, the Nvidia 8800 series that are out, are still very
impressive cards, running DX9 games. So Buying one, doesn't mean you wasted
money on a DX10 card that there are no games for, as it chews through the
DX9 games better than the DX9 cards. The price of course is the no need to
rush. $500-700 is a little on the crazy side of things

"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> ok thanks for your suggestions, i guess theres no rush for DX10 card and
> even
> if i got one i wouldn't use games to support shader 3.0 etc (what ever
> makes
> it cost £450) for years.
> Hopfully i'll be able to pick up a none Vista GPU for cheaper and keep it
> for a good few years before another.
> Regards,
> Paul

I'd personally go with Windows XP for gaming, most older games lose
performance under Vista, thanks mostly to the sound changes that have been
made. If you are using only new titles release from January onwards, or ones
marked as "Games for Windows" then Vista will be fine. I'd also want to wait
for the DX10 card prices to drop!
--
Byron Hinson
ActiveWin.com


"Paul" wrote:

> Hello,
> First i want to apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question or
> it's already been answered but it's very hard for me to find a right answer
> that i know i can trust.
>
> I plan to get a new computer as soon as i can so i wondered if i could get
> some advise on if i should use windows xp or the new windows Vista when it
> comes out(the cheapest version).
>
> I will play World of Warcraft mostly maybe with a direct x 10 card
> (8800gtx), my thoughts were that if i buy a geforce 8800 and Windows Vista i
> will not need to upgrade my pc again for a long time.
> But i read in some places that Vista won't run older games as well as Xp, so
> i thought maybe windows xp and a older card like Geforce 7950GT would be
> better for me.
> Could someone please shed some light on the subject and advise me what to
> get and when/if i would need to upgrade it and if/why Vista would run games
> like World of Warcraft any slower/differant.
> Answers would be very much appreciated.Thanks alot,
> Paul
>

If you are running an 8800, let me put in my two bits.

If you wait till after the first of the year, most computers are going to
come with XP, with the Vista upgrade. Seeing as you already own a dynamite
card, you are going to have an awesome advantage.
My bet is that you aren't going to be running a cheap, half useful computer.
If you are buying a computer like you bought your card, you can get
something like an HP Media Center Computer, probably one a lot like I just
bought. It costed me about $900US (not sure about the dollar/pound
conversion).
If you do it right, and get it XP, with the ability for a mail in, or
instant upgrade, you are going to be able to try the best of both worlds.
Install the Vista upgrade (with your fancy video card, and probably a
stronger power supply) and see how it plays. If you don't like it, you can
always hit the restore, to bring XP back to the beginning, and run that. But
you will have both. Another note, if you are upgrading from a Media center
computer, you will be receiving the Vista Home Premium upgrade, most likely,
which will be even better.
My point is this, you don't have to settle, you can have the best of both
worlds. But if you are going to do that, you only have a couple months left.
Between now, and probably February. Act now!

Hope this helps :-)

The only problem with staying with XP is that Microsoft is going to stop
supporting it. So no more security updates, core fixes, patch files, ect....

The main problem with Vista is that it does not support the THOUSANDS upond
THOUSANDS of game titles out there already. Most of them you can not even
install, and even if you tell Vista to run it in XP MODE it still crashes.

So once again it leaves us stuck within a rock and a hard place.

"tairobi" wrote:

> My suggestion is XP. It's a matured operating system and every company has
> good, solid drivers written for it. I played WoW. Do you really want to be
> trying to group with people or in a 40 man Raid that took hours to get into
> and then run into driver or technical issues all because of Vista? Stick with
> what works. Give Microsoft a couple of years to shake out the Vista bugs and
> then look at it again.
>
> "Paul" wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > First i want to apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question or
> > it's already been answered but it's very hard for me to find a right answer
> > that i know i can trust.
> >
> > I plan to get a new computer as soon as i can so i wondered if i could get
> > some advise on if i should use windows xp or the new windows Vista when it
> > comes out(the cheapest version).
> >
> > I will play World of Warcraft mostly maybe with a direct x 10 card
> > (8800gtx), my thoughts were that if i buy a geforce 8800 and Windows Vista i
> > will not need to upgrade my pc again for a long time.
> > But i read in some places that Vista won't run older games as well as Xp, so
> > i thought maybe windows xp and a older card like Geforce 7950GT would be
> > better for me.
> > Could someone please shed some light on the subject and advise me what to
> > get and when/if i would need to upgrade it and if/why Vista would run games
> > like World of Warcraft any slower/differant.
> > Answers would be very much appreciated.Thanks alot,
> > Paul
> >

"Hawk" <Hawk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> The only problem with staying with XP is that Microsoft is going to stop
> supporting it. So no more security updates, core fixes, patch files,
> ect....

Still got years of support left.

> The main problem with Vista is that it does not support the THOUSANDS
> upond
> THOUSANDS of game titles out there already. Most of them you can not even
> install, and even if you tell Vista to run it in XP MODE it still crashes.

Thousands upon thousands? Can you name some, I've yet to come across a game
that doesn't work in Windows Vista.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/
Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/

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You have not found 1?
I also SERIOUSLY dissagree with his over the top, Thousands and Thousands
number, but I would not be surprised if there are hundreds from the last few
years.
I have run into a few, but have not tested as many as I planned to.

Nascar SimRacing 2003. A cool game, and the last PC Nascar game.

A few others(forget offhand) did not run, and many had graphical issues that
made them unplayable.
I will be installing and testing more on the RTM when I get a chance.

Last time I checked, Fable was unplayable due to flashing and texture
corruption-walls would disappear, etc.
Halo had some issues even after the patch.
I could not get Mechwarrior 4(and any of the packs) to run.

etc.


"Paul Smith" <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote in message
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> "Hawk" <Hawk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:70CB2E92-37EE-42F6-9821-0ADD716A5076@microsoft.com...
>> The only problem with staying with XP is that Microsoft is going to stop
>> supporting it. So no more security updates, core fixes, patch files,
>> ect....
>
> Still got years of support left.
>
>> The main problem with Vista is that it does not support the THOUSANDS
>> upond
>> THOUSANDS of game titles out there already. Most of them you can not even
>> install, and even if you tell Vista to run it in XP MODE it still
>> crashes.
>
> Thousands upon thousands? Can you name some, I've yet to come across a
> game that doesn't work in Windows Vista.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
> Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/
>
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