Nvidia Cards on Vista x64 (RTM)

I've just build myself a new high-end PC including a 7900GTO gfx card. I
dabbled with XP Pro but had a few graphical problems so I thought I'd
install Vista (rtm) instead, whcih I did. At first, everything looked OK,
but when I started using more demanding applications (i.e. 3D games) I
encountered some artifacting and distortion. Particularly in Battlefield 2,
Civililzation IV, and Oblivion, but also periodically in Vista itself. The
problems in-game were consistent at least, and the problems wihin Vista
itself were intermittant, occasionally resulting in a STOP error.

I tried a (borrowed) 7300GS card (which doesnt need auxiliary power) and it
had the same problems in-game, which suggests the problems were not to do
with the original 7900GTO not the PSU. Obviously the most likely candidates
were Vista and/or Nvidia's drivers.

I tried a few drivers from various sources but could only get a couple to
install and neither were any better than the default Vista drivers.

I decided to by a high-end ATI card for comparison, and I installed an
X1950Pro last night. Using only the default Vista drivers, I suddenly found
everything worked great. So it seems the nvidia drivers might be the problem
after all.

I was just wondering if anyone had success or similar problems with high-end
Nvidia cards in Vista (RTM). I've seen nothing on the NVidia site to
indicate when final versions of the drivers will be realised; I'd like to
keep the 7900GTO if I could but obviously it's not usable at the moment.

CJM

Having same problems I found an article somewhere (here in the newsgroups?
dont`t remember). I tried and had success:

--- snip ---
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Direct3D]
"DisableThreadedDDI"=dword:00000001
--- snip ---

Copy the text into a textfile, rename it to *.reg and double click it.

regards,
Christian


"CJM" <cjmnews04@newsgroup.nospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Og30TWHFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I've just build myself a new high-end PC including a 7900GTO gfx card. I
> dabbled with XP Pro but had a few graphical problems so I thought I'd
> install Vista (rtm) instead, whcih I did. At first, everything looked OK,
> but when I started using more demanding applications (i.e. 3D games) I
> encountered some artifacting and distortion. Particularly in Battlefield
> 2, Civililzation IV, and Oblivion, but also periodically in Vista itself.
> The problems in-game were consistent at least, and the problems wihin
> Vista itself were intermittant, occasionally resulting in a STOP error.
>
> I tried a (borrowed) 7300GS card (which doesnt need auxiliary power) and
> it had the same problems in-game, which suggests the problems were not to
> do with the original 7900GTO not the PSU. Obviously the most likely
> candidates were Vista and/or Nvidia's drivers.
>
> I tried a few drivers from various sources but could only get a couple to
> install and neither were any better than the default Vista drivers.
>
> I decided to by a high-end ATI card for comparison, and I installed an
> X1950Pro last night. Using only the default Vista drivers, I suddenly
> found everything worked great. So it seems the nvidia drivers might be the
> problem after all.
>
> I was just wondering if anyone had success or similar problems with
> high-end Nvidia cards in Vista (RTM). I've seen nothing on the NVidia site
> to indicate when final versions of the drivers will be realised; I'd like
> to keep the 7900GTO if I could but obviously it's not usable at the
> moment.
>
> CJM
>

ATI appear to have released better drivers for their products than Nvidia,
but Nvidia will catch up..


"CJM" <cjmnews04@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:Og30TWHFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I've just build myself a new high-end PC including a 7900GTO gfx card. I
> dabbled with XP Pro but had a few graphical problems so I thought I'd
> install Vista (rtm) instead, whcih I did. At first, everything looked OK,
> but when I started using more demanding applications (i.e. 3D games) I
> encountered some artifacting and distortion. Particularly in Battlefield
> 2, Civililzation IV, and Oblivion, but also periodically in Vista itself.
> The problems in-game were consistent at least, and the problems wihin
> Vista itself were intermittant, occasionally resulting in a STOP error.
>
> I tried a (borrowed) 7300GS card (which doesnt need auxiliary power) and
> it had the same problems in-game, which suggests the problems were not to
> do with the original 7900GTO not the PSU. Obviously the most likely
> candidates were Vista and/or Nvidia's drivers.
>
> I tried a few drivers from various sources but could only get a couple to
> install and neither were any better than the default Vista drivers.
>
> I decided to by a high-end ATI card for comparison, and I installed an
> X1950Pro last night. Using only the default Vista drivers, I suddenly
> found everything worked great. So it seems the nvidia drivers might be the
> problem after all.
>
> I was just wondering if anyone had success or similar problems with
> high-end Nvidia cards in Vista (RTM). I've seen nothing on the NVidia site
> to indicate when final versions of the drivers will be realised; I'd like
> to keep the 7900GTO if I could but obviously it's not usable at the
> moment.
>
> CJM
>

"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:O37tYyHFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> ATI appear to have released better drivers for their products than Nvidia,
> but Nvidia will catch up..
>

Of course... But when...?

If I could see light at the end of the tunnel, I'd keep my 7900GTO, and sell
my X1950Pro on when Nvidia finally get their act together.

"Christian Dreiner" <CDreiner@cdcorner.de> wrote in message
news:e8A35oHFHHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Having same problems I found an article somewhere (here in the newsgroups?
> dont`t remember). I tried and had success:
>
> --- snip ---
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Direct3D]
> "DisableThreadedDDI"=dword:00000001
> --- snip ---
>
> Copy the text into a textfile, rename it to *.reg and double click it.
>
> regards,
> Christian
>

Interesting. What does this Threaded DDI do?

CJM

Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote:
> ATI appear to have released better drivers for their products than
> Nvidia, but Nvidia will catch up..

The Catalyst is a big piece of junk in my opinion. I used ATI Tray Tool
instead of it.

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"Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The Catalyst is a big piece of junk in my opinion. I used ATI Tray Tool
> instead of it.

Exactly that - opinion. Just from the user experiences on the groups here,
it's pretty clear ATI have far superior drivers to nVidia at this point.

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Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/
Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/

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That is not what I have seen during the beta...but oh well....


"Paul Smith" <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote in message
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> "Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eETy9jIFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> The Catalyst is a big piece of junk in my opinion. I used ATI Tray Tool
>> instead of it.
>
> Exactly that - opinion. Just from the user experiences on the groups
> here, it's pretty clear ATI have far superior drivers to nVidia at this
> point.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
> Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>

But it is true presently..


"VistaGroups" <losergroups@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> That is not what I have seen during the beta...but oh well....
>
>
> "Paul Smith" <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote in message
> news:2B537BA0-133B-431C-AF69-68F45F4DB289@microsoft.com...
>> "Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eETy9jIFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> The Catalyst is a big piece of junk in my opinion. I used ATI Tray Tool
>>> instead of it.
>>
>> Exactly that - opinion. Just from the user experiences on the groups
>> here, it's pretty clear ATI have far superior drivers to nVidia at this
>> point.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Smith,
>> Yeovil, UK.
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
>> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>> Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/
>>
>> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>>
>>
>

CJM wrote:
> "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in
> message news:O37tYyHFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> ATI appear to have released better drivers for their products than
>> Nvidia, but Nvidia will catch up..
>>
>
> Of course... But when...?
>
> If I could see light at the end of the tunnel, I'd keep my 7900GTO,
> and sell my X1950Pro on when Nvidia finally get their act together.

Well the retail release of Vista, at the end of Jan, is probably their
target. I'd expect finished drivers by then. Or just keep the x1950 and move
on with your life, neither part is a DX10 card so you're not gaining
anything there...